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Message no. 1
From: Sean McCrohan <mccrohan@*****.OIT.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:46:26 -0400
Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject header
was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they pull down a
job a week? One big score a month? More often than that? Less?

But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: and
when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
pull it off anyway? :)


--Sean
Message no. 2
From: Lehlan Decker <DeckerL@******.COM>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:13:01 -0400
>Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject
>header
>was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they
>pull down a
>job a week? One big score a month? More often than that?
>Less?

Back when I was Gming a campaign, I would roll a D6 and let
that be the number of weeks since the last run ended. Unless
there were special circumstances, etc etc etc.
This seemed to work pretty well, and the PC's would then
catch me up with what they had done during the intervening
weeks. (Studying,training,creating a foci, spell, etc etc)

>But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: and
>when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in
>the garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed
>trying to pull it off anyway? :)

This for me has been a moot point. Usually by the time they
figure out the run is down the tubes, their fighting for their
life, and success isn't accomplsihing the mission, its living
to see daylight. <Evil Grin>
Besides you have to strike a balance. A Runner team was hired
because the job was difficult. If you bail out too often whenever
it looks rough, your reputations goes in the toilet.

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Message no. 3
From: Zebulin Magby <zebulingod@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:35:06 -0700
---Sean McCrohan <mccrohan@*****.OIT.GATECH.EDU> wrote:
>
> Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject
header
> was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they pull down a
> job a week? One big score a month? More often than that? Less?
>

Actually, mine run about every week or two. The rest of the time is
spent appeasing their various contacts, hospital stays, and training.

> But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to
ask: and
> when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
> garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
> pull it off anyway? :)
>

My runners have often come near death because they fragged a run and
were either too dumb to quit, or too unaware of their surroundings.
Either way, they stay in the hospital awhile. I'd say they end up in
the hospital after about 20-30% of the time.

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Message no. 4
From: Steadfast <laughingman@*******.DE>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:53:09 +0200
And so it came to happen that Sean McCrohan wrote:
----------
> Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject
header
> was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they pull down a
> job a week? One big score a month? More often than that? Less?

In the group that I'll play they have this strange
"roleplay-every-fragging-day" behaviour. From this point it is that we do
often Run, for live AND for money. But in reflection, we do get a job every
two weeks or so, having downtime during the days in the week (in RL). On
the other hand, we sometimes play three to four times a week, quite a lot
of time to waste with "Runs".

> But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: and
> when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
> garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
> pull it off anyway? :)

Ah, to my disregard we allmost never had a fragging bust up. I think the GM
can't do this, because his wife is quite a "Winner" type. But on the other
hand we do have most of the time pretty good plans. Not that I as a GM
would screw them not. But it is fun in a way, Loose here and there WOULD be
a bit more fun. Annyhow, seems that I can't qualify in here to answer this
one.
;o)

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Message no. 5
From: Brian Moore <mooreb@****.FAC.COM>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:11:11 -0400
Sean McCrohan <mccrohan@*****.OIT.GATECH.EDU> said:
>
> Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject header
> was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they pull down a
> job a week? One big score a month? More often than that? Less?

My group usually spends about a month average between jobs. Sometimes it's
a lot less, sometimes a few months pass, but it all evens out. We decided
to use the Companion training times, and I successfully argued that we'd
never have a chance to spend our Karma if we did a run a week.

> But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: and
> when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
> garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
> pull it off anyway? :)

I'm GM about half the time, player the other half. My group (me included)
is rather cocky. We feel we can handle anything. If things go bad, we
don't always try to accomplish EVERY mission objective, but we always try
to do the major one(s).

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Message no. 6
From: Chameleon <cham@***.BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:23:54 GMT
And so, on Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:46:26 -0400 did Sean McCrohan
<mccrohan@*****.OIT.GATECH.EDU> quoth merrily:

> Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject =
header
>was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they pull down a
>job a week? One big score a month? More often than that? Less?

Well, since i began GMing the group, they've run pretty much every
week, just cos i like to keep em busy. This was after a 2 month break
cos the shaman had to spend that in hospital getting patched up.

> But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: =
and
>when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
>garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
>pull it off anyway? :)

I haven't run any very deadly missions as yet, although the last GM's
last mission was a bit of a trap, just to get us to stop accepting
every mission we came across i think.

Chameleon,

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Message no. 7
From: Chameleon <cham@***.BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:27:52 GMT
And so, on Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:11:11 -0400 did Brian Moore
<mooreb@****.FAC.COM> quoth merrily:

>My group usually spends about a month average between jobs. Sometimes =
it's
>a lot less, sometimes a few months pass, but it all evens out. We =
decided
>to use the Companion training times, and I successfully argued that we'd
>never have a chance to spend our Karma if we did a run a week.

That's easy to fix, just seriously injure one of the PC's and then the
rest can train while they're in hospital, then do it to a different PC
the next time so the one who got hurt can train. Or do it to the
decker, if you have one, and they can lie in bed and program all day
if they want (and can:)

Chameleon,

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Message no. 8
From: Drea O'Dare <dreaodare@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:52:55 PDT
Our team spends about a week or so between runs. When we're actually
running together, anyway. (Jes!) The group as a whole has taken a long
time off. Most of my PCs tended to try and stay as busy as possible.
After all, they mostly run for the thrill. I've rarely met a run they'd
turn down.

Pink`

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Message no. 9
From: Steve Eley <sfeley@***.NET>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:02:21 -0400
Chameleon wrote:
>
> That's easy to fix, just seriously injure one of the PC's and then the
> rest can train while they're in hospital, then do it to a different PC
> the next time so the one who got hurt can train. Or do it to the
> decker, if you have one, and they can lie in bed and program all day
> if they want (and can:)

PC1: "Drek. My gun muscle's getting tired. I gotta train!"

PC2: "Me too. Okay, time to hospitalize. Whose turn is it this week?"

PC1: "I think it's Mikey's turn."

PC3: "AGAIN? Frag! I just got hospitalized last August!"

PC1: "Sorry, omae. Chart on the fridge says it's your turn."

PC3: "All right, all right. Get it over with. You do it, Bob, your aim's
better."

PC2: "Any preference?"

PC1: "Mmm, better go for something vital, Bob. I'm gonna need at least three
weeks to practice Firearms."

PC2: "Sure thing." [Obligingly shoots Mikey in the right lung, laying him over
at DocWagon Central until cloned tissue can be grown to patch the injury...]


Have Fun,
- Steve Eley (who'd rather just turn down the job) >8->
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Message no. 10
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:43:33 -0500
From: Steve Eley <sfeley@***.NET>
Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 11:07 PM

>PC1: "Drek. My gun muscle's getting tired. I gotta train!"
>
>PC2: "Me too. Okay, time to hospitalize. Whose turn is it this week?"
>
>PC1: "I think it's Mikey's turn."
>
>PC3: "AGAIN? Frag! I just got hospitalized last August!"

<snip rest of conversation>

Now *that's* comedy!!

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Message no. 11
From: Michael Coleman <mscoleman@********.NET>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:26:36 -0500
> But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: and
> when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
> garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
> pull it off anyway? :)
>
>
> --Sean
>
I have noticed that alot of the post under "Dumb Things" are the runners not
pulling out after things start to go VERY wrong. There is nothing like a
shoot out with Lone Star to frag up a run.

Mike
Message no. 12
From: Chameleon <cham@***.BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:39:34 GMT
And so, on Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:02:21 -0400 did Steve Eley
<sfeley@***.NET> quoth merrily:

>PC1: "Drek. My gun muscle's getting tired. I gotta train!"
>
>PC2: "Me too. Okay, time to hospitalize. Whose turn is it this week?"
>
>PC1: "I think it's Mikey's turn."
>
>PC3: "AGAIN? Frag! I just got hospitalized last August!"
>
>PC1: "Sorry, omae. Chart on the fridge says it's your turn."
>
>PC3: "All right, all right. Get it over with. You do it, Bob, your =
aim's
>better."
>
>PC2: "Any preference?"
>
>PC1: "Mmm, better go for something vital, Bob. I'm gonna need at least =
three
>weeks to practice Firearms."
>
>PC2: "Sure thing." [Obligingly shoots Mikey in the right lung, laying =
him over
>at DocWagon Central until cloned tissue can be grown to patch the =
injury...]

Well, I sorta meant an NPC shoot them, not the players shoot
themselves:)

Chameleon,

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Message no. 13
From: "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
Subject: Re: How often do your PCs run?
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:37:50 EDT
In a message dated 9/21/98 3:59:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mccrohan@*****.OIT.GATECH.EDU writes:

> Okay, the real question I'd meant to ask under that subject header
> was: How often do PCs in your campaign go on runs? Do they pull down a
> job a week? One big score a month? More often than that? Less?

It depends on how good the team is. My newbie team that I am running is lucky
to get a run every 3-6 weeks. However my vetern group easily pulls down 2 runs
a month. Its is rare that they get more work than that. Course I am still
playing 2055.

> But after I typed the subject, it also occurred to me to ask: and
> when runs go badly, how often do they say 'frag it, this run's in the
> garbage' and pull out, instead of getting themselves killed trying to
> pull it off anyway? :)

The smart players will pull out and not attempt the run. I have had an entire
team die beacuse they refused to pull out despite the odds.

The team had totaly fragged the run and alerted the compund they were breaking
into. They decided to open the vehicle gate and go through. Saddly the rigger
did not have runflats and the last ditch intruder counter measures took out
his tires. Mind you, he decided to enter the compund AFTER he had picked up
the military helicopters closing in. I actually heard one of the players say
"Let's get closer to the building,. they won't fire on us then"

Oh well, one missile took most of them out.

When the experienced team frags a run, generally they lay low for about 2
months or so.

-Bandit

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