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Message no. 1
From: Sebastian Wiers <seb@***.RIPCO.COM>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:58:14 -0500
The best kind of fake ID is a real ID that has your picture but is not you.
Not all that hard to get- a lot easier than creating a whole false history.
Once you have one or two pieces of ID, folks are real nice about giving you
more. The original can be from anyone around your age, the most common bieng
some infant death case whose birth certificate you get, or stealing an
identity wholesale from some person recently deceased. Unfortunately, files
of photos and scaned retinas and prints are becoming more common, and would
probably have to be changed by decking or bribary in SR.
Sebastian
aka
Mongoose
"whadda ya mean, I'm not a cacasiod robustus? Thats a real ID, pig"
Message no. 2
From: Alex van der Kleut <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:12:27 -0400
To get a fake ID, you need to get a good, realistic piece of data onto a
system. When you introduce that, you also put a tailored virus in the
system. It isn't like an actual virus, but works in a similar way.
Everytime that the system talks to another system that has info on it
(i.e. a bank talking to the credit union), have the system "update" his
file. This allows the original data to replicate itself all over the net.
An example in reverse was given in the story in the SRII book. In that
she erased her SIN in the corp system, and put in a flag to erase all
mention of her in any other system that asked about her. Shouldn't be
that hard to make it go in reverse. Then, the more it's accessed, the
stronger your new background gets.

Slovotsky's Law #67

Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes you're the windshield.
Message no. 3
From: "S.F. Eley" <gt6877c@*****.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:38:21 -0400
> To get a fake ID, you need to get a good, realistic piece of data onto a
> system. When you introduce that, you also put a tailored virus in the
> system. It isn't like an actual virus, but works in a similar way.

I like this idea.. Of course, the Big Businesses and the government would
have long since set up safeguards against just this sort of "virus," so
the credibility of the fake ID/SIN should be a tough skill test for the
decker. (Don't forget that if he/she isn't successful enough, the virus
_might_ just set off a few alarms...)


Blessings,

_TNX._

--
Stephen F. Eley (-) gt6877c@*****.gatech.edu )-( Student Pagan Community
http://wc62.residence.gatech.edu| "To really ask is to open the door
My opinions are my opinions. | to the whirlwind."
Please don't blame anyone else. | -- Anne Rice, _The Vampire Lestat_
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:37:39 +0200
> The best kind of fake ID is a real ID that has your picture but is not you.
>Not all that hard to get- a lot easier than creating a whole false history.

That's true.

>Once you have one or two pieces of ID, folks are real nice about giving you
>more. The original can be from anyone around your age, the most common bieng
>some infant death case whose birth certificate you get,

Someone who died at a very young age would not have much of a history
running up to your age -- if the kid died at age 5, and you're 22, you're
missing 17 years that you've got to make up anyway. It's maybe _slightly_
easier than having to make up the complete 22 years, but also more
restricting...

>or stealing an
>identity wholesale from some person recently deceased.

Also note that, if the computer search turns up things that don't appear to
be right, the person behind the computer will start asking you a few
questions. If you give the wrong answers, you'd better start running... That
means you'd better learn by heart the new identity you're supposed to have...


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Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:37:42 +0200
>To get a fake ID, you need to get a good, realistic piece of data onto a
>system. When you introduce that, you also put a tailored virus in the
>system. It isn't like an actual virus, but works in a similar way.
>Everytime that the system talks to another system that has info on it
>(i.e. a bank talking to the credit union), have the system "update" his
>file. This allows the original data to replicate itself all over the net.
[snip]
>Then, the more it's accessed, the stronger your new background gets.

Makes sense, but how do you do it in game terms? I'm assuming that the
regular fake ID doesn't include such a thing, so maybe add an extra fee on
top of the normal one if you want such a tailored virus installed (10%? 25%?
more? less?), and add +1 to the rating of your fake ID per <time unit>
(week? month? 3 months? ... ) maybe?


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Message no. 6
From: Alex van der Kleut <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 07:57:16 -0400
On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Gurth wrote:

>
> Makes sense, but how do you do it in game terms? I'm assuming that the
> regular fake ID doesn't include such a thing, so maybe add an extra fee on
> top of the normal one if you want such a tailored virus installed (10%? 25%?
> more? less?), and add +1 to the rating of your fake ID per <time unit>
> (week? month? 3 months? ... ) maybe?
>
>
I was thinking something along the lines of a progressive ID rating.
Start out with a rating 4 progressive. Go out and try to buy a car for 10
grand. If the ID passes the check (i.e not detected as a fake), the car
place talks to the bank and approves the purchase. Incidentally, the the
bank also "updates" the records with the car place, effectively adding to
the level of the fake ID. Same goes for a check at customs or any other
info-intensive search. I'm assuming that a regular fake ID is made this
way, and that the virus is deleted before it is sold. I'm still working
on prices and the more exact rules for the "in-progress ID."
Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:40:19 +0200
>I was thinking something along the lines of a progressive ID rating.
>Start out with a rating 4 progressive. Go out and try to buy a car for 10
>grand. If the ID passes the check (i.e not detected as a fake), the car
>place talks to the bank and approves the purchase. Incidentally, the the
>bank also "updates" the records with the car place, effectively adding to
>the level of the fake ID.

I'd already understood that :) What I mean is: how do you do it in game
terms? Say taht every X number of days/weeks/months/years +1 is added to the
rating, at least if you use the ID regularly? Or maybe after using a fake ID
successfully for X times you add +1?


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Message no. 8
From: Alex van der Kleut <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: How to escape from prison/ id
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:53:29 -0400
On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Gurth wrote:
>
> I'd already understood that :) What I mean is: how do you do it in game
> terms? Say taht every X number of days/weeks/months/years +1 is added to the
> rating, at least if you use the ID regularly? Or maybe after using a fake ID
> successfully for X times you add +1?
>
How about something like a threshold for the number of tests to complete?
You start out with a level three progressive. To make it to level 4, the
ID must be taken as genuine (i.e. passed the opposed tests it makes) 4
times. To go from 4 to 5 takes 5 succesful checks, etc. To make it a
little more difficult, there also must be a minimum difficulty to the
check, no more than say a 2 level difference. That means that if you want
to raise a level 5 to a level 6 you have to beat 6 level 4 or greater ID
checkers (no going to local Stuffer Shack to build an easy ID:). I'm
doing most of this off of the top of my head, but it is coming out
sounding fairly reasonable.

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