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Message no. 1
From: Brett Ryan Brown <calvinoi@*******.SCRI.FSU.EDU>
Subject: H's Back Question
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 19:18:11 EST
Quick Question:
In "Wasteland", the GM is to first tell the characters that their
cyberware works, but there is no chrome present. Now, my question is:
What about spurs and such? Does the same usual muscular reflex that
normally extends the spurs or razors trigger a magical blade that
comes out of the arm, or what? I'm mostly looking for opinions, so any
insight you can share, I'd appreciate.

Thanx mucho, chummers!

-L8TR,
-Calvinoi MindFlyer
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Message no. 2
From: Erik S Jameson <esj@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: H's Back Question
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:11:00 -0700
On Sat, 12 Nov 1994, Brett Ryan Brown wrote:

> Quick Question:
> In "Wasteland", the GM is to first tell the characters that their
> cyberware works, but there is no chrome present. Now, my question is:
> What about spurs and such? Does the same usual muscular reflex that
> normally extends the spurs or razors trigger a magical blade that
> comes out of the arm, or what? I'm mostly looking for opinions, so any
> insight you can share, I'd appreciate.
>
It is my impresssion from reading the book several times now, that in the
above situation, you retain your cyberware _unless_ it has an effect on
the outside world, or unless it was useless (like datajacks). So, while
you keep your wired reflexes, you lose your razors. It does't make too
much sense, admitedly, but then again, HB is an excuse for the GM to do
whatever the hell he wants to...;-)

Erik, a.k.a. the Whistler
Message no. 3
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: H's Back Question
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 18:48:03 -0700
>you keep your wired reflexes, you lose your razors. It does't make too
>much sense, admitedly, but then again, HB is an excuse for the GM to do
>whatever the hell he wants to...;-)

heh heh - and one of the parts says basically - "The less sense things make, the
better."

I agree though - in the sections where it says "The runner keeps his Cyber, but
he looks totally normal" I would say no Razors. I get this idea from the fact
that in that part it says that a cyber arm will be a real one - though augmented
in STR if the characters normal Cyber-Arm is.

Nightfox
Message no. 4
From: Brett Ryan Brown <calvinoi@*******.SCRI.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: H's Back Question
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 21:44:29 EST
> > Quick Question:
> > In "Wasteland", the GM is to first tell the characters that their
> > cyberware works, but there is no chrome present. Now, my question is:
> > What about spurs and such? Does the same usual muscular reflex that
> > normally extends the spurs or razors trigger a magical blade that
> > comes out of the arm, or what? I'm mostly looking for opinions, so any
> > insight you can share, I'd appreciate.
> >
> It is my impresssion from reading the book several times now, that in the
> above situation, you retain your cyberware _unless_ it has an effect on
> the outside world, or unless it was useless (like datajacks). So, while
> you keep your wired reflexes, you lose your razors. It does't make too
> much sense, admitedly, but then again, HB is an excuse for the GM to do
> whatever the hell he wants to...;-)

Yeah. About 15 minutes after writing this message, I realized that
this was the case (no thwaps, please). I just thought that people
would realize my mistake, and so assume that I had noticed it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate your response.

-L8TR,
-Calvinoi MindFlyer

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Message no. 5
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: H's Back Question
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 16:21:19 +1100
Nightfox writes:

> I agree though - in the sections where it says "The runner keeps his
> Cyber, but he looks totally normal" I would say no Razors. I get this idea
> from the fact that in that part it says that a cyber arm will be a real one
> - though augmented in STR if the characters normal Cyber-Arm is.

Well, ok, I'll admit that I haven't read the book yet (it probably isn't out
in Australia yet), but I'll put in my say non the less. Perhaps the
character will just have a more damaging punch. The muscle increase is
carried across, yet the character has a normal arm, so why not just carry
the damage for a punch across, even though the character just has a normal
fist? Or you could get bizaire, and go for a set of claws or something, or
really long finger nails :-)

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Message no. 6
From: Darth Vader <j07c@***.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: H's Back Question
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:10:15 +0100
±I agree though - in the sections where it says "The runner keeps his Cyber,
but
±he looks totally normal" I would say no Razors. I get this idea from the
fact
±that in that part it says that a cyber arm will be a real one - though augmented
± in STR if the characters normal Cyber-Arm is.

How bout giving him a normal claw ?

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Message no. 7
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: H's Back Question
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 10:33:08 -0700
>±I agree though - in the sections where it says "The runner keeps =
his Cyber, but
>±he looks totally normal" I would say no Razors. I get this idea=
from the fact
>±that in that part it says that a cyber arm will be a real one - t=
hough augmente
>d
>± in STR if the characters normal Cyber-Arm is.
>
> How bout giving him a normal claw ?

it doesn't fit with how that section works, for then, just forget abo=
ut Razors.
Maybe increase hand blows to Str L real.

Nightfox

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