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Message no. 1
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: IE's
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 17:59:24 -0600
At 19:52 10/5/97 EDT, you wrote:
>Adam J writes:
>> Immortal elves. Harlequin, Ehran, and the rest of 'em..
>
>Ahh, elves. Hehehe, only immortal in the fact that they don't die of
>natural causes, but a severe case of lead poisoning, or a mysterious fire,
>usually fixes that. =)

No no. This elves really are immortal, remnants of Earthdawn.
A simple bullet or fire wouldn't even Touch these guys and and gals.

-Aj


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Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:14:24 +0100
Adam J said on 17:59/ 5 Oct 97...

> >Ahh, elves. Hehehe, only immortal in the fact that they don't die of
> >natural causes, but a severe case of lead poisoning, or a mysterious fire,
> >usually fixes that. =)
>
> No no. This elves really are immortal, remnants of Earthdawn.
> A simple bullet or fire wouldn't even Touch these guys and and gals.

I'm not so sure about that one. Strip away their magical defenses and I
think they'll die from a bullet just as fast as the next elf. Removing
those defenses is the hard part, though.

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Message no. 3
From: Rick St Jean <Platinum@*****.CA>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:09:16 -0400
Gurth wrote:

> > No no. This elves really are immortal, remnants of Earthdawn.
> > A simple bullet or fire wouldn't even Touch these guys and and gals.
>
> I'm not so sure about that one. Strip away their magical defenses and I
> think they'll die from a bullet just as fast as the next elf. Removing
> those defenses is the hard part, though.

Everyone who even saw harlequin remembers they have no stats so they
can't be killed. If a gm had enough of the EI campain he/she may allow
that. The scene from never trust and elf was creative licence that all
authors take. immortal elves are just that immortal. If they weren't
they'd have stats. But nothing stops immortal humans like merlin coming
back and tearing them apart taking earth back from those fragging
dandelion eating pansies.... but i digress.

another snippit from the library of
Platinum
Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:05:56 EST
> > I'm not so sure about that one. Strip away their magical defenses and I
> > think they'll die from a bullet just as fast as the next elf. Removing
> > those defenses is the hard part, though.
>
> Everyone who even saw harlequin remembers they have no stats so they
> can't be killed. If a gm had enough of the EI campain he/she may
> allow that. The scene from never trust and elf was creative licence
> that all authors take. immortal elves are just that immortal. If

I got the impression it was age-immunity, and any actual "power" they
had was from being fraggin long-time mages. Example, isn't Ehran's
daughter an "Unknown"? If what you are saying is right, they could
just shot her somewhere non-lethal to find out. Heck, childhood
would indicate it either way [flashback to many childhood scrapes].

The Immortal Elves(tm) don't die of age, and probably have some
nifty-high disease resistances, but they have a "mortal" frame.

If you want to go into speculation, My call would be that genetically
they (perhaps enhanced by innate magic, but they functioned fine in
the "dips") have an incredable cellular and genetic self-repair
capability. That would enable resistance to age, pretty cool
resistance to pathogens, and a nice healing ability. Kind of like a
non-magical, more reasonable regeneration.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 5
From: Rick St Jean <Platinum@*****.CA>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:08:08 -0400
Brett Borger wrote:
--snip--
> I got the impression it was age-immunity, and any actual "power" they
> had was from being fraggin long-time mages. Example, isn't Ehran's
> daughter an "Unknown"? If what you are saying is right, they could
> just shot her somewhere non-lethal to find out. Heck, childhood
> would indicate it either way [flashback to many childhood scrapes].
>
> The Immortal Elves(tm) don't die of age, and probably have some
> nifty-high disease resistances, but they have a "mortal" frame.
>
> If you want to go into speculation, My call would be that genetically
> they (perhaps enhanced by innate magic, but they functioned fine in
> the "dips") have an incredable cellular and genetic self-repair
> capability. That would enable resistance to age, pretty cool
> resistance to pathogens, and a nice healing ability. Kind of like a
> non-magical, more reasonable regeneration.
>
> -=SwiftOne=-

in the front pages of harlequin it did stated that harlequin and ehran
are immortal and can't be killed. they have no stats. cause if they
have stats they have limits and can be killed. in a novel professor
laverty gets shot-up by a large number of black ops squad a litteraly
starts regenerating. if we were to put stats i recomend regeneration..
immunity to normal weapons. personnal barriers 10 +... i don't know how
the blue book handled barriers then so not sure. etc... etc... they are
just here to bug us eternally. but i like the idea of an immortal human
tearring them apart.

another adage from the library of
Platinum
Message no. 6
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's -Reply
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:24:36 -0500
>in the front pages of harlequin it did stated that
>harlequin and ehran are immortal and can't be
>killed.

Yes, although what they really mean is that they
can't be killed by the PLAYERS, or anything less
than GM plot device.

Any trick that could be done to keep them alive,
they have done, including a
masked/anchored/quickened high force treat
spell, coupled with a bit of earthdawn magic (like
teleport) and a few ally spirits with sorcery and
protective magic. If you have a PC that wants to
attack an IE, think to yourself: is there a spell
that he could have quickened that would help him
here? then guess what, he has that spell
quickened on him, at whatever astronomical
force you need to get him out of the jam.

On the other hand, if Harlequin deciedes to
sacrifice his life in order to actually prevent the
enemy from entering reality this cycle of magic,
then he will in fact die.

Also, on an earthdawn note, you can consider
each IE to have high powered threads tied to a
major pattern item. Destroy the item and...

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 7
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:04:12 EST
> in the front pages of harlequin it did stated that harlequin and
> ehran are immortal and can't be killed. they have no stats. cause
> if they have stats they have limits and can be killed. in a novel

Meaning that you can't have players offing world-shaping (yuck!)
NPC's.

> professor laverty gets shot-up by a large number of black ops squad
> a litteraly starts regenerating. if we were to put stats i recomend
> regeneration.. immunity to normal weapons. personnal barriers 10

...All of which can be explained by the spells and tricks a x
thousand year old mage could have (remembering teleportation trick).

My statement stands. Besides, you didn't respond to my comment on
Ehrans daughter.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 8
From: Rick St Jean <Platinum@*****.CA>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:09:54 -0400
Brett Borger wrote:

> My statement stands. Besides, you didn't respond to my comment on
> Ehrans daughter.
>
> -=SwiftOne=-

I have no comment because i don't know about it.

Platinum
Message no. 9
From: Rick St Jean <Platinum@*****.CA>
Subject: Re: IE's -Reply
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:21:34 -0400
Mike Elkins wrote:
>
> Also, on an earthdawn note, you can consider
> each IE to have high powered threads tied to a
> major pattern item. Destroy the item and...
>
> Double-Domed Mike

Now that idea has some real merit and adventure ideas.
You players are gonna dig deep into the past using legends
and research. Maybe a few fire fights to get away.
Also has the makings of a great novel. Someone please TOAST
that Urdli character. I really HATE him. But seriously
that is a great idea. It'll also throw some new magic in
which the mages really have to work on.

Another passage from the library of
Platinum
Message no. 10
From: Logan Graves <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:33:24 -0400
Brett Borger wrote:
>
> My statement stands. Besides, you didn't respond to my comment on
> Ehrans daughter.

Actually, it turns out that the old elf is quite potent! (In my
universe at any rate) he has several progeny & all are reportedly
"daughters."

Not the least of which is our PC, Vixen, 'tho she doesn't know it, yet.

(Now that I think about it, perhaps that's why she survived those
bioware implants...) Check the B.K.K. website for more info on her.

--Fenris
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Message no. 11
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:36:37 -0500
On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Rick St Jean wrote:

>
> in the front pages of harlequin it did stated that harlequin and ehran
> are immortal and can't be killed. they have no stats. cause if they
> have stats they have limits and can be killed. in a novel professor
> laverty gets shot-up by a large number of black ops squad a litteraly
> starts regenerating. if we were to put stats i recomend regeneration..
> immunity to normal weapons. personnal barriers 10 +... i don't know how
> the blue book handled barriers then so not sure. etc... etc... they are
> just here to bug us eternally. but i like the idea of an immortal human
> tearring them apart.
>
> another adage from the library of
> Platinum
>
If anyone has played Earthdawn You would notice that is can be
damned hard to kill a character! Each Character has a chance to Heal all
wounds each day... even if they are fully wounded!!!! Its like they all
have a regen power. Also there are many Talents that I'd say that each of
the Immortals would have. The only thing I wouldn't do is increace thier
Attributes over 1.5 racial max.

-=>Czar

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Message no. 12
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: IE's -Reply
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:54:41 -0500
On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Rick St Jean wrote:

> Mike Elkins wrote:
> >
> > Also, on an earthdawn note, you can consider
> > each IE to have high powered threads tied to a
> > major pattern item. Destroy the item and...
> >
> > Double-Domed Mike
>
Now I'm beginning to understand what The Dragon Heart Saga might
be about.
-=>Czar, who is about 7 books behind in the Series :(
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Message no. 13
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:45:40 +0100
Brett Borger said on 15:05/ 6 Oct 97...

> I got the impression it was age-immunity, and any actual "power" they
> had was from being fraggin long-time mages.

That's the same thing I was thinkin. No FASA publication ever said they
were like Highlander immortals and healed wounds faster than others, let
alone that they have some innate damage resistance abilities. According to
Harlequin's Back, "He also possesses enough self-activating protections
and wards to make him virtually invulnerable to all save those who can use
magic on his level" (page 147). To me, that suggests he's just as
vulnerable as anyone else if he were to switch off his magical defenses.

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Message no. 14
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:11:01 -0400
In a message dated 97-10-07 07:25:42 EDT, you write:

> That's the same thing I was thinkin. No FASA publication ever said they
> were like Highlander immortals and healed wounds faster than others, let
> alone that they have some innate damage resistance abilities. According to
> Harlequin's Back, "He also possesses enough self-activating protections
> and wards to make him virtually invulnerable to all save those who can use
> magic on his level" (page 147). To me, that suggests he's just as
> vulnerable as anyone else if he were to switch off his magical defenses.
>
> -
Sure he is, just ignore the "Immunity to Age and Pathogens".
-K
Message no. 15
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:39:43 EDT
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:15:56 -0400 NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
writes:
>>Really? I thought he was a human living backwards in time, or was that
>>from the cartoon version...
>>
>> --DT
>
>I think you're talking about Gandalf.

No, it was Merlin, or at least that's how it went in the book that I
read.

~Tim
Message no. 16
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:47:42 +0100
And verily, did Adam J hastily scribble thusly...
|>Ahh, elves. Hehehe, only immortal in the fact that they don't die of
|>natural causes, but a severe case of lead poisoning, or a mysterious fire,
|>usually fixes that. =)
|
|No no. This elves really are immortal, remnants of Earthdawn.
|A simple bullet or fire wouldn't even Touch these guys and and gals.

Of course they wouldn't...
These "people" have got enough Karma flowing out of their ears to shift the
earth in its orbit...

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Message no. 17
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:38:57 -0500
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:39:43 EDT Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM> writes:
>On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:15:56 -0400 NightLife
><habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
>writes: >>Really? I thought he was a human living backwards in time,
>or was that
>>>from the cartoon version...
>>>
>>> --DT
>>
>>I think you're talking about Gandalf.
>
>No, it was Merlin, or at least that's how it went in the book that I
>read.


Yep, that would be Merlin, according to T.H. White. I don't know of
anywhere that Gandalf is referred to as living backwards in time.


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Message no. 18
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:52:32 -0500
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:49:57 -0700 Bredget Stroud <bstroud@*********.COM>
writes:
>DT wrote:
>
>>Really? I thought he was a human living backwards in time, or was
>that
>>from the cartoon version...
>>
>> --DT
>
>That was from the cartoon version... Gargoyles wasn't it?


Nope. It's probably from the cartoon version of the first portion of T.H.
White's The Once and Future King (this was a movie made by Disney),
titled "The Sword in the Stone". If it wasn't actually mentioned in the
movie, it was most certainly in the book it was based off of. I don't
believe the Merlin has even made an appearance in Gargoyles (though he
has been mentioned).


>Then Nightlife replied:
>
>>I think you're talking about Gandalf.
>
>Isn't he from The Hobbit?

Yep. Gandalf is one of the Istari (aka wizards), a member of those who
served the Valar and were sent to counter Sauron (or his master, I can't
remember which) during the (I think) the First Age.


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Message no. 19
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:10:17 EDT
On Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:55:49 +1000 Ray & Tamara writes:
>> ACK...ACK...<<gasping for air>>
>> Never do that when someone's drinking a coke. :)
>>
>> Tell me you're kidding. A role-player that hasn't read the "LotR"
series is
>> like a US lawyer that hasn't read the Constitution. In the sense that
it
>> may not always be applicable but it's the root of what you're doing.
>
>I haven't read them. I got through the Hobbit after several attempts,
but I
>still can't get my way through theLotR series. They are too, ah...
>'childish' (for want of a better word). I don't mean that to be
offensive by
>the way. I just found that Tom Bombadil for example, really annoyed me.
He
>sang to much, and made the book seem like a sort of satire/joke. And
the
>Hobbit was full of that sort of stuff.

*Cough*

<boggle>
What?!
</boggle>

~Tim (trying to put his eyes back into his head, with out stepping on his
jaw...)
Message no. 20
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@***.BRISNET.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: IE's)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:35:48 +1000
~Tim said
> >sang to much, and made the book seem like a sort of satire/joke. And
> the
> >Hobbit was full of that sort of stuff.
>
> *Cough*
>
> <boggle>
> What?!
> </boggle>

What did I say? :)

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Message no. 21
From: Mike Russell <MgkellyMJ7@***.COM>
Subject: IE's
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:26:35 EST
just curious as to what name Harlequin may have used in the 4th world. in
'Worlds without End' and 'Beyond the Pale' he is referred to as Caimbeul by
Aina. i don't play Earthdawn and this has sparked my interest, for some odd
reason.

Mgkelly
Message no. 22
From: Justin Miland <Jkmiland@***.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 03:54:26 EST
At 00:33:46 AM, MgkellyMJ7 (Mike Russell) wrote:

>just curious as to what name Harlequin may have used in the 4th world. in
>'Worlds without End' and 'Beyond the Pale' he is referred to as Caimbeul by
>Aina. i don't play Earthdawn and this has sparked my interest, for some odd
>reason.

Yes. ; ) It seems likely that Harlequin's 4th World Name may have been
Caimbeul. Also, I once heard (read) him referred to as "Har'lea'quinn" by
someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.
Message no. 23
From: The Vagabond <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 03:30:59 PST
>At 00:33:46 AM, MgkellyMJ7 (Mike Russell) wrote:
>
>>just curious as to what name Harlequin may have used in the 4th world.
in
>>'Worlds without End' and 'Beyond the Pale' he is referred to as
Caimbeul by
>>Aina. i don't play Earthdawn and this has sparked my interest, for
some odd
>>reason.
>
>Yes. ; ) It seems likely that Harlequin's 4th World Name may have
been
>Caimbeul. Also, I once heard (read) him referred to as "Har'lea'quinn"
by
>someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
>Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.
>

In "Worlds without End" when Harlequin appears before the Tir
Tairngire counsel, he is formorally introduced as "Caimbeul har lea
Quinn", so it can be supposed that's his orginal elven name(at least in
the eyes of the Tir).
If you have any more questions about Harlequin, feel free to Email
me, as Dragonslayer on Shadowland made Dunkelzahn his pet project, I've
made Harlequin mine. :)


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Message no. 24
From: Wyrmy <elfman@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:52:25 -0600
"Har'lea'quinn" by
> someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
> Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.

I think he was called Har'lea'quinn by ehran the scribe in Worlds With-
out Ends.
Message no. 25
From: The Vagabond <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:35:47 PST
>"Har'lea'quinn" by
>> someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or
by
>> Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.
>
>I think he was called Har'lea'quinn by ehran the scribe in Worlds With-
>out Ends.
>

Heheh... no, Ehran calls him much nastier things, most of which I
can't repeat due to fear of getting banned from this list :)
Sorry, had to say it.


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Message no. 26
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:15:38 +0000
And verily, did Justin Miland hastily scribble thusly...
|
|At 00:33:46 AM, MgkellyMJ7 (Mike Russell) wrote:
|
|>just curious as to what name Harlequin may have used in the 4th world. in
|>'Worlds without End' and 'Beyond the Pale' he is referred to as Caimbeul by
|>Aina. i don't play Earthdawn and this has sparked my interest, for some odd
|>reason.
|
|Yes. ; ) It seems likely that Harlequin's 4th World Name may have been
|Caimbeul. Also, I once heard (read) him referred to as "Har'lea'quinn" by
|someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
|Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.

Nope. None of them.
It was in the story at the beginning of Harlequin's back "Voice from the
past" (I think it was called that), when one of the mad passions appears to
warn him of the Enemies return...
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Message no. 27
From: Dust <rogan@******.ORG>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:28:50 -0800
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Justin Miland wrote:

> At 00:33:46 AM, MgkellyMJ7 (Mike Russell) wrote:
>
> >just curious as to what name Harlequin may have used in the 4th world. in
> >'Worlds without End' and 'Beyond the Pale' he is referred to as Caimbeul by
> >Aina. i don't play Earthdawn and this has sparked my interest, for some odd
> >reason.
>
> Yes. ; ) It seems likely that Harlequin's 4th World Name may have been
> Caimbeul. Also, I once heard (read) him referred to as "Har'lea'quinn" by
> someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
> Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.
>

Just outta curiousity, is Worlds Without End a good read? I saw it in the
book store, and read the synopsis and didn't get it.

Help me make up my mind,

Dust
Message no. 28
From: The Vagabond <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:40:35 PST
>Just outta curiousity, is Worlds Without End a good read? I saw it in
the
>book store, and read the synopsis and didn't get it.
>
>Help me make up my mind,
>
>Dust
>

Oh hell yes, without a doubt. If you aren't a fan of the Elven Cabal
soap-opera, then you'd probably grow tired of it. But if you like the
Elven Cabal, and ties to Earthdawn, then it's the best. It's my second
favorite book. Spector is one hell of a writer, and it's a shame she
hasn't written more.
The prequels to "Worlds Without End", "Scars" and "Little
Treasures"
are being released as EarthDawn novels this spring(unless FASA changes
it's mind yet again). I can't wait.


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Message no. 29
From: Tony Rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:57:44 -0600
On 02/23/98 15:52:25 you wrote:
>
>"Har'lea'quinn" by
>> someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
>> Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.
>
>I think he was called Har'lea'quinn by ehran the scribe in Worlds With-
>out Ends.
>
>

Also in one of the intro stories in Harlequin, I do believe....

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Message no. 30
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: IE's
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:53:18 -0800
At 03:54 2/22/98 EST, Justin Miland insinuated:
>At 00:33:46 AM, MgkellyMJ7 (Mike Russell) wrote:
>>just curious as to what name Harlequin may have used in the 4th world. in
>>'Worlds without End' and 'Beyond the Pale' he is referred to as Caimbeul by
>>Aina. i don't play Earthdawn and this has sparked my interest, for some odd
>>reason.

>Yes. ; ) It seems likely that Harlequin's 4th World Name may have been
>Caimbeul. Also, I once heard (read) him referred to as "Har'lea'quinn" by
>someone. I forget who, however--possibly in one of the SR novels or by
>Yrsgrathe in 'Worlds Without End'.

In the module "Harlequin", he calls Ehran "Eh'he'ran" and Ehran calls
him
"Har'lea'quinn". In Worlds Without End, he's Caimbeul. In the Blood Wood
sourcebook for ED, he's Caimbueul. (All this IIRC...)

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