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From:	NaCl(aq) jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:16:21 -0400

Message no. 1 Ok, easy questions.
We live in the SR world.
What race are you?
What sex are you?
What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
Why?

That's it.
--
NaCl(aq)
and your next run. . . .to capture wild twinkies. . ..

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From:	Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:00:49 +1000

Message no. 2 -----Original Message-----
From: NaCl(aq) <jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 2:20 PM
Subject: If only. . . . .

Ok, easy questions.
We live in the SR world.
What race are you?
What sex are you?
What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
Why?

That's it.

Well you'd be an idiot to not want to be an elf mage, wouldn't you? live
forever, cast magic... Mind you, I'd never be an initiate because I lack the
drive, and I wouldn't be a Shadowrunner because I don't have a deathwish and
I have this annoying basic honesty that I can't get over.

Then again, if the position of Great Western Dragon needs to be filled, I'm
your dracoform :?)

From:	Dan Grabon djmoose@******.kornet.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:14:38 +0900

Message no. 3 On 4/30/00 1:16 PM, NaCl(aq) at jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu wrote:

> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?
> What sex are you?
> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
> Why?

Hmmm. Two possibilities:

- Male Night One mage with a nasty grin and a thing for Lightning Bolt.
We'll call that my dark side.

- A laid-back, life-loving, katana-toting adept transplanted to the Carib
and spending as much time as possible relaxing on the deck of a ship. We'll
call that... the extension of my personality that is sick of cold winters
and listens to too much Jimmy Buffett. Might also sound a bit like a
certain character in a certain not-quite-off-the-ground cyberpirates
campaign...

-moose

---
Dan "Moose" Grabon - djmoose@******.kornet.net
I gotta fly to St. Somewhere...

From:	Wavy Davy ctysmd@***.leeds.ac.uk
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:03:25 +0100 (BST)

Message no. 4 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, NaCl(aq) wrote:

> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Human and some elveses and orkses. No dwarfs. I dont like beards.

> What sex are you?

Usually male. Am currently playing a female character though. I like
to play charasmatic, flirtatious characters, and I find roleplaying
chatting up blokes a bit of a challenge :)

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Everything - Mages, Shamens, Adetps, Totemic Mundanes(!) Riggers,
Deckers. Only played one street sammy, and he started out at gang
level and built up his cyber and bio from the start.

> Why?

Why the chars - who knows. I get a concept, from a rule or a
shadowtalk or a picture, figure some kind of abilities and then
history, and then repeat the whole proccess.
I am a self confessed perfectionist when it comes to creating
characters. It takes me ages (weeks/months) and several rewrites to
be 'happy' with them. However, this last week I conceived and wrote
two characters that I'm happy with, in the space of a few hours. I
think that was cos their was a whole group of us knocking them up and
creativity was bounceing off all of us :) I usually develop them
alone.

--
Wavy Davy (who shares wins)
...I guess the hard thing for a lot of people to accept is why God would allow
me to go running through their yards, yelling and spinning around.

From:	Anders Swenson anders@**********.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:39:59 -0700

Message no. 5 ----- Original Message -----
From: Wavy Davy <ctysmd@***.leeds.ac.uk>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: If only. . . . .

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, NaCl(aq) wrote:
>
Ok, easy questions.
We live in the SR world.
What race are you?

Any and all. My Dwarf doesn't have a beard, he has a Mohawk.

What sex are you?

Usually male.

What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

I usually try to cover all the bases with my different characters, so I
can keep fresh with the different aspects of the rules.

Why?

Either the Accidental Runner who is a talented person suddenly denied
other options, or a Lowlife who never had other options.

--Anders

From:	Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:03:34 -0500

Message no. 6 From: Wavy Davy
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:03 AM

> > What race are you?
>
> Human and some elveses and orkses. No dwarfs. I dont like beards.

Dwarves don't automatically have beards. None that I've ever played in SR
have had beards, and all the dwarves being played in my current campaign
are/were clean-shaven (one of them being rather dead at the moment).

--
Patrick E. Goodman
remo@***.net
"I'm going to tell you something cool." -- Gene Wolfe

From:	NaCl(aq) jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:08:30 -0400

Message no. 7 Dan Grabon wrote:
<SNIP>

> - A laid-back, life-loving, katana-toting adept transplanted to the Carib
> and spending as much time as possible relaxing on the deck of a ship. We'll
> call that... the extension of my personality that is sick of cold winters
> and listens to too much Jimmy Buffett. Might also sound a bit like a
> certain character in a certain not-quite-off-the-ground cyberpirates
> campaign...

Errr. . . . I'm sure I have NO idea what you are talking about. . . . .oh. .
.wait. . .hmmm. . .I'll. . . . ah. . .get back to you oh that. . . seems I DO
know what you are talking about. . . heh. . .

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From:	NaCl(aq) jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:16:05 -0400

Message no. 8 Well, it would seem I've been unclear with my original post. Some people
got the idea. . others didin't. What I meant with the questions was YOU
as in, the person who is sitting there reading this. If suddenly you
were in the SR universe, and had your choice of race, sex, and what you
did, what would you be and why. This may be very different from the
characters you play. For example, I've never played a decker. But if I
was in the SR world, I'd be an elven decker/tech-wiz, male, because I'm
already a computer addict now, so it would just be a natural extention
of me. (And if possible, I'd be otaku. ;) ).

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NaCl(aq)
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From:	Steve Collins einan@*********.net
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 00 11:36:57 -0500

Message no. 9 On 4/30/00 10:16 am, NaCl(aq) said:

>Well, it would seem I've been unclear with my original post. Some people
>got the idea. . others didin't. What I meant with the questions was YOU
>as in, the person who is sitting there reading this. If suddenly you
>were in the SR universe, and had your choice of race, sex, and what you
>did, what would you be and why. This may be very different from the
>characters you play. For example, I've never played a decker. But if I
>was in the SR world, I'd be an elven decker/tech-wiz, male, because I'm
>already a computer addict now, so it would just be a natural extention
>of me. (And if possible, I'd be otaku. ;) ).
>
>--
>NaCl(aq)
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>
>
>
>
>

From:	Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:29:11 GMT

Message no. 10 Ah, I would probably prefer the life of an aspected socerer who has the
hermetic take on things; possibly teaching in a university in some stable
country, in a quiet way so as not to invite any extraction teams and
suchlike. Elven or human, I'm not particularly bothered. I would while
away my days making trees twist into interesting shapes and writing essays
on it and just basicly not getting shot/fried by black IC or eaten by some
kind of awakened critter (I'm a wimp like that).
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From:	Steve Collins einan@*********.net
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 00 11:43:41 -0500

Message no. 11 On 4/30/00 10:16 am, NaCl(aq) said:

>Well, it would seem I've been unclear with my original post. Some people
>got the idea. . others didin't. What I meant with the questions was YOU
>as in, the person who is sitting there reading this. If suddenly you
>were in the SR universe, and had your choice of race, sex, and what you
>did, what would you be and why. This may be very different from the
>characters you play. For example, I've never played a decker. But if I
>was in the SR world, I'd be an elven decker/tech-wiz, male, because I'm
>already a computer addict now, so it would just be a natural extention
>of me. (And if possible, I'd be otaku. ;) ).
>
>--

Well if that's the way you're gonna put it then

Race : Human (No pesky racisim Problems to deal with and who wants to
live forever anyway)

Sex : Male, I'm a male now and I'd make a terrible female. Besides if I
made myself female (which would be interesting to experience things from
the other side) I'd have to become a Lesbian as I just don't like guys.

Occupation : Millionaire Playboy, Hey you said I get to choose what I
would do so give me enough money that I don't have to worry about worry
about working for a living. Maybe make me a Simsense Star so I'll always
have babes draped all over me.

From:	Jill Menning jmenning@*******.Com
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:08:48 -0400

Message no. 12 Probably a dwarf, even if based on little more than old family photos, female. For a
living? Probably pretty much what I do now - go to school trying to get a degree that will
allow me to work five days a week and spend the rest of my life as a beach bum, gardener,
and recreational decker, raising dogs and fish and generally not worrying about every dime
I spend. One thing I would *not* be is a shadowrunner of any sort :o) Jill the content
corporate nobody...

Jill

From:	Jonathan thegreatkraken@**********.net
Subject:	If Only...
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:19:02 +0100

Message no. 13 >Ok, easy questions.
>We live in the SR world.

>What race are you?
Me personally, probably a Dwarf :)
Usual in game metatype: Elf

>What sex are you?
Up till now about 50/50 male/female characters

>What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
Face/Covert ops cross
Phys-ad with some cyber (smartlink, flare comp., dampers)
Rigger

>Why?
Female Face/covert ops specialist: Have you tried to be nasty to a
Charisma 8 female elf with tailored pheromones lvl2 and the friendly
face edge? :)
Phys-ad: Like a street sam, but with more flavour

Jonathan
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From:	Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:34:46 -0500

Message no. 14 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:16:21 -0400 "NaCl(aq)"
<jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu> writes:
> Ok, easy questions.

I'm gonna cheat and do junk not allowed per canon.

> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Ork or maybe human. Not a metavarient. Possibly with Human looking edge.

> What sex are you?

Honestly? I've always been fascinated, ever since Rolemaster Companion
IV, with poly-genders. I'd probably be male with spell to change genders.

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

EVERYTHING! The cheating above refers to wanting to be an otaku and an
Adept -way of the magician (Hermetic or Wujen - possibly one of the
variant traditions). One thing in articular that I'd want to do is
enchanting. However, I would want to create more traditional magical
items (again, my Rolemaster influence; I love the Spirit Runes spell
list). Also, I love cyberware. I would probably have a datajack, some
headware memory, bone lacing, a smartlink, maybe a few other things and
some bioware (mnemonic enhancer, trauma damper, cerebral booster, some
other stuff.) Regardless of the time it took, I'd probably be a high
enough initiate that I could do all of this stuff fairly well and have no
geasa. Another thing I like from Rolemaster is the Ritual of Accession; I
would probably look for something like that and perform it.

> Why?

Because.

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- Troutman's 6th programming postulate.

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From:	Manolis Skoulikas great_worm@*****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:29:05 +0300

Message no. 15 NaCl(aq) wrote:
>
> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Human. It is a way of reacting and an attitude towards things.
Easily adaptable, always coo headed, average on most things.
great potential instead of great attributes.

> What sex are you?

Male. Testosterone on the normal levels though. No Conan stuff.

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Hermetic mage of the Christian tradition (Gnostic etc.)

> Why?

I believe there is great hope in all people and some pathfinders have to
do the dirty work and make the small pathways into highways for the
willing to follow the road to self awareness, attunement with nature and
all cosmic powers and finally a conscious choosing of everyone's place
(therefore cosmic purpose) in the world we live in.

It is a way of life and and is expressed as we go along. There is
absolute and total respect for all ideologies and cultures or religions,
and only those who see beyond these shall press on to the greater effort
for all mankind. Faith, hope, love.

It is not a complete background but it gives the general idea and the
driving force behind the character.
I understand that in the SR universe such persons are not only rare but
also shortlived. Still I would rather die the right way than live the
wrong way.

The Wiz

PS: If you meant my characters, these are the three I love most:
1) ''The Wiz'' male greek street sam starting as humanis scum and
finding the light (now fights the Azzies in Yucatan)

2) Ariel ''Themis'' Hummingbird. Female half pueblo investigating lawyer
(decker-street sam) in Denver. Help the poor, defend the helpless

3) Thomas ''Milspec'' Jordan. Male snake shaman adept. Ganger in
Redmond, married to Jessica Siriani (CEO Federated Boeing Seattle),
turned security mage, promptly disgusted and left with his 2year old
boy.Hunted for kidnapping, escaped and now makes a living as a
shadowrunner avoiding necessary killing and sneaks astrally to see his 7
year old boy.

From:	Phil pames@*****.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:25:39 -0500

Message no. 16 At 12:16 AM 4/30/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Ok, easy questions.
>We live in the SR world.
>What race are you?
>What sex are you?
>What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
>Why?
>
>That's it.

Male Night one Private detective Adept with a slight pulp obsession,
leading to much maniacal laughter and announcing from the shadows that "The
Weed of Crime bears bitter fruit."

Phil

From:	Deirdre M. Brooks xenya@********.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:54:41 -0700

Message no. 17 "NaCl(aq)" wrote:
>
> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Elven, Night One. Either one - I'm all for life extension. :-)

> What sex are you?

The same as I am now. :-)

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Magic, probably a full Th.D. along with years of research and practice.
:-)

> Why?

If I could pick and choose what I could be in the Shadowrun universe,
I'd go for the best options available - to my perceptions. Wouldn't you?
:-)

--
Deird'Re M. Brooks | xenya@********.com | cam#9309026
Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG
"If you loved me, you'd all kill yourselves today."
-- Spider Jerusalem | http://www.teleport.com/~xenya

From:	Strago strago@***.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:37:55 -0400

Message no. 18 "Deirdre M. Brooks" wrote:

> "NaCl(aq)" wrote:
> >
> > Ok, easy questions.
> > We live in the SR world.
> > What race are you?

OK, I've got two distinct ideas of what I'd want to be. The hardest part is
choosing, so I'll just give both.
1) Human
2) Ork

> > What sex are you?

1) Male
2) Male

> > What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

1) Cast spells that look like anime, especially Dragon Ball Z. So bolt
spells look like flaming spheres of energy.
2) Street sammy. Always wanted to have a smartlink, and an Uzi. Also, having
hydraulic jacks (at least level 3) is a must. I've always wanted to jump
real high and fall from high heights. Though a physad might be better for
this, with feather fall...

> > Why?

1) I've always wanted to do this kind of thing. Just go "YAH!" and have a
large ball of energy fly straight ahead of me and cause death and
destruction. I'm just a sick, sick, sick person.
2) It'd be a change for me. And I'd want to be a full Ork, not a
human-looking one. With a Troll Girlfriend. We'd be such a cute couple :^).

>
> --
> Deird'Re M. Brooks | xenya@********.com | cam#9309026
> Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG
> "If you loved me, you'd all kill yourselves today."
> -- Spider Jerusalem | http://www.teleport.com/~xenya

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From:	Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:52:42 -0700

Message no. 19 "NaCl(aq)" wrote:

>
> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Depends on how munchkinous you want to get. Human, Elf, or
Great Western Dragon. :) (I agree with the guy who said hey, if
the job's open, I'll take it! Heck, I'd settle for *regular*
Western Dragon, if I could do the human form thing.) :)

> What sex are you?

Male. Always identified more with male characters even though
I'm not one in this life. :)

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Magic, definitely. Hermetic mage, probably with a decently high
education, in a job that allows me to satisfy my curiosity
about magical phenomena. Possibly an occult investigator.

I'm a wuss, so I'd do something with a decent likelihood that
I wouldn't get hurt. :)

--Rat

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From:	Jonathan thegreatkraken@**********.net
Subject:	If Only...
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:14:15 +0100

Message no. 20 >Well, it would seem I've been unclear with my original post. Some
people
>got the idea. . others didin't. What I meant with the questions was
YOU
>as in, the person who is sitting there reading this. If suddenly you
>were in the SR universe, and had your choice of race, sex, and what
you
>did, what would you be and why. This may be very different from the
>characters you play. For example, I've never played a decker. But if
I
>was in the SR world, I'd be an elven decker/tech-wiz, male, because
I'm
>already a computer addict now, so it would just be a natural
extention
>of me. (And if possible, I'd be otaku. ;) ).

Okay, I'll try again (I think I've got it right now!)
Race: Dwarf
Sex: Male
What would I do: Decker/Tech Wiz
Why: Can't get enough computer now, and I would just love to fully
immerse myself into a full virtual world and just explore and have fun
(Being an Otaku would be brill, but a decker would do)

Jonathan
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Most people are persecuted beyond their
wildest delusions.
CLAUDE STEINER
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From:	Jonathan thegreatkraken@**********.net
Subject:	If Only...
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:33:02 +0100

Message no. 21 My first reply to this (the one about characters I normally play) did
seem to make me sound a bit (a lot IMO) munchkinous, maybe I'm a bit
munchkinous, but not as bad as that makes it sound

<Jonathan begs all to forgive him>

The character based on the idea of talking with your *mouth*, not
talking with a *machine gun*,
The character in question used Ares squirts loaded with DMSO/Narco-jet
or Hyper. (hyper is such good fun :)). She served as the front person
for the group when negotiating and also chatted up guards to distract
them, while the more muscled team members were sneaking in...

Jonathan
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Most people are persecuted beyond their
wildest delusions.
CLAUDE STEINER
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From:	vocenoctum@**.com vocenoctum@**.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:56:44 -0400

Message no. 22 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:16:21 -0400 "NaCl(aq)"
<jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu> writes:
> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Probably troll.

> What sex are you?

Male

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Shaman, we'll go with Owl or such.

> Why?
>

Because its Kewl? :-)
Just seems to tag along with how I'd want to be there, plenty of magic,
but without having to study all teh time.

Vocenoctum
<http://members.xoom.com/vocenoctum>;

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From:	Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 09:45:21 +1000

Message no. 23 -----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: If only. . . .

>Ah, I would probably prefer the life of an aspected socerer who has the
>hermetic take on things; possibly teaching in a university in some stable
>country,

There's a stable country in Shadowrun?

From:	Even even@***********.fr
Subject:	If only. . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 02:18:51 +0200

Message no. 24 I'd propably be a female human or elf urban shaman (don't know which totem, but Cat seems
a good alternative) who also happens to be the reincarnated Spider Jerusalem. I would live
in the metroplex, in a lofty apartment full of drums and other instruments with which to
constantly annoy my neighbors, smoking intoxicating herbs and guzzling alcohol far too
often. I would spend my time doing magic with my nutty initiation group, writing
propaganda and bad poetry, and working in a revolutionary fringe policlub seeking to bring
The Revolution to the sixth world. To earn a living, I would propably blackmail some high
and important people, or perhaps have an affair with a free spirit with Wealth. Oh yeah,
and I would also be playing RPGs.

Pretty much the same as my life at present, when I think about it.
--
(>) Alleycat [even.tomte@*********.com]

From:	Achille Autran aautran@*************.fr
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 01 May 2000 02:32:10 +0200

Message no. 25 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:16:21 -0400
From: "NaCl(aq)" <jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu>

> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Hmmm, elves are sooooo cool... Probably the 'Noldor uber alles !'
syndrom in me.

> What sex are you?

Tough one. Probably male, though female is appealing. At least I could
like my body, but I would have to go along with those ugly males with
their stupid jokes...

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Hermetic mage, doing research on metaplanes/general relativity modelling
with weird algebraic topology tools. Besides, I would love to see the
havoc raised in academic circles by magic apparition...
Or musician. Better: both.
And how bloody useful would be mnemonic enhancers, math SPU, encephalon,
datasofts...
Definitely not shadowrunner.
Definitely not corporate.

> Why?

Living ?

P.S.: On all answers, does 50% of elven mages seems a good guess ? :)

From:	Jim, Mary-Louise & Charles redmen@*****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:34:43 -0400

Message no. 26 NaCl(aq) wrote:
>
> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.

> What race are you?
elf the last thing the world needs is for me to be faster amd more
charismatic

> What sex are you?
male but if i had the choice definatly female

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
phyical mage with limited martial art talent and a 14L pistol (i dont
care if you cant make it i want one)
oh and a fairly good computer and electronics skill (enough so i could
be a bad decker but a great corp earner)

> Why?
im really not that tall but im very skinny, also im just too cute to be
human... :)
i always thought it would be the coolest thing if you could take a pill
and switch genders and i really for the most part do not like males
that much i surpress or simply dont have lot of the "male"
characteristics
physical mage would just so make my day
my karate instructors always tell me i have great potential which kinda
weirds me out from time to time
i cant wait to get killing hands even if it is only L i want it
and casting magic would be so so very cool oh and i have ESP we proved
it in my psych class so that makes it official
oh yeah and i already have increased reflexs its weird i have this
crazy flailing attack... but thats a different story
and i work at a corp already during the summers (boy i sure do hate
business users!) doing spreadsheet and database stuff as well as once
managing aconstruction team (thats was weird at 16 managing middle
aged construction workers)
id probably run the shadows cause what the hell else im a going to
do... mop floors?

id probably die like on my first run thinking i could take the 5 guards
in milspec no problem
oh and i already have bone lacing back surgery two years ago
and people hurt themselves attacking me all the time (once jump kick
someone in kararte he kicked me out of the air and sprined his ankle
majorly people compline im to bony)

From:	Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 11:48:12 +1000

Message no. 27 Why does every one love Night elves so much? Is this a Drow carryover,
everyone loves Drizzt?

From:	Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:58:34 -0500

Message no. 28 On Mon, 1 May 2000 11:48:12 +1000 "Simon and Fiona"
<sfuller@******.com.au> writes:
> Why does every one love Night elves so much? Is this a Drow
> carryover,
> everyone loves Drizzt?

Night Ones are not drow even if they have some drow-like connotations.
They are basically furry elves (and that fur can be orange, btw; not very
drowish is it?). I think every one wants to be a Night One because they
want to be contortionists :)

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From:	Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:54:12 -0500

Message no. 29 From: Simon and Fiona
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:48 PM

> Why does every one love Night elves so much? Is this a Drow carryover,
> everyone loves Drizzt?

Drzzt? He's a wanna-be....

That being said: A little of that; one of the NPC personalities from an
*old* AD&D campaign, a character I really liked and wanted to use in my SR
campaign, was a drow. It fit the image perfectly when I discovered the
Night Ones. Thadis would have worked as an ordinary elf, but the Night One
image fit his personality better.

But a love of Drzzt Do'Urden? *Please...* Besides, I thought it was
obviously a bow to one Kurt Wagner....

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From:	Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:13:23 -0500

Message no. 30 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:34:43 -0400 "Jim, Mary-Louise & Charles"
<redmen@*****.com> writes:
> NaCl(aq) wrote:
<SNIP>
> i always thought it would be the coolest thing if you could take a
> pill
> and switch genders
<SNIP>

You (males) can (to a degree). I believe it's an estrogrn pill. The rest
requires surgery ... or at least a sharp knofe. :) But seriously, in SR,
if you this effect, try this:

Gender Switch (Transformation Manipulation)
Type: P Target: B(T)(V) Duration: S Range: LOS Drain: +2(L)
Minor Physical Change (Appearance) +0(M)
Physical Spell +1(M)
Sustained Spell +2(M)
Voluntary Target +2(L)
This spell changes the target to their counter part of the opposite
gender. To be successful, the spell must overcome a threshold equal to
half the target's body.

Gender Change (Transformation Manipulation)
Type: P Target: B(T)(V) Duration: P Range: LOS Drain: +2(M)
This is the permanent version of the above.

Just an odd spell to put in that coffee table grimoire to make people
wonder ... ;)

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From:	Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:26:21 -0500

Message no. 31 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:54:12 -0500 "Patrick Goodman" <remo@***.net>
writes:
<SNIP>
> But a love of Drzzt Do'Urden? *Please...* Besides, I thought it
> was
> obviously a bow to one Kurt Wagner....

Never considered that ... how many fingers and toes do Night Ones have?

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From:	Deirdre M. Brooks xenya@********.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:07:40 -0700

Message no. 32 Patrick Goodman wrote:
>
> But a love of Drzzt Do'Urden? *Please...* Besides, I thought it was
> obviously a bow to one Kurt Wagner....

I find it peculiar that someone could find no *other* possible
inspiration than Drzzt for dark elves.

I played Drow before Drzzt was a figment. And Night Ones just aren't
Drow. :-)

(they are, however, far too similar to Mystique and Nightcrawler for
coincidence - and *German* too)

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From:	Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:30:40 -0500

Message no. 33 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:07:40 -0700 "Deirdre M. Brooks"
<xenya@********.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> I find it peculiar that someone could find no *other* possible
> inspiration than Drzzt for dark elves.
>
> I played Drow before Drzzt was a figment. And Night Ones just aren't
> Drow. :-)
>
> (they are, however, far too similar to Mystique and Nightcrawler for
> coincidence - and *German* too)

Anyone know of any reference to Night One-like creatures/beings in German
myth?

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From:	Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:15:04 -0500

Message no. 34 From: Alfredo B Alves
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:26 PM

> > But a love of Drzzt Do'Urden? *Please...* Besides, I thought it
> > was obviously a bow to one Kurt Wagner....
>
> Never considered that ... how many fingers and toes do Night Ones have?

Blue and furry and German? And Nightcrawler never entered your mind...?
Man, that was the first thing I thought of when I saw them.

And standard-issue Night Ones have the standard human complement of digits.

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From:	Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:20:15 -0500

Message no. 35 From: Deirdre M. Brooks
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:08 PM

> > But a love of Drzzt Do'Urden? *Please...* Besides, I thought it
> > was obviously a bow to one Kurt Wagner....
>
> I find it peculiar that someone could find no *other* possible
> inspiration than Drzzt for dark elves.

Some people haven't been doing this for as long as I have (20-mumble years),
or as long as you have (I have no idea, and don't want to hazard a guess).
Limits your frame of reference, especially when you're bombarded in the
gaming fiction section of the store with books about Drzzt.

> I played Drow before Drzzt was a figment. And Night Ones just aren't
> Drow. :-)

But with the right adept abilities, they can come awfully close.... <eg>

> (they are, however, far too similar to Mystique and Nightcrawler for
> coincidence - and *German* too)

My point exactly.

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From:	Deirdre M. Brooks xenya@********.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:45:33 -0700

Message no. 36 Patrick Goodman wrote:
>
> > I find it peculiar that someone could find no *other* possible
> > inspiration than Drzzt for dark elves.
>
> Some people haven't been doing this for as long as I have (20-mumble years),
> or as long as you have (I have no idea, and don't want to hazard a guess).
> Limits your frame of reference, especially when you're bombarded in the
> gaming fiction section of the store with books about Drzzt.

20-mumble years is right.

I've never read those Drzzt books. I read the back covers, but I already
had a strong sense of what "Drow" was and the books clashed with that,
so I let them be.

> > I played Drow before Drzzt was a figment. And Night Ones just aren't
> > Drow. :-)
>
> But with the right adept abilities, they can come awfully close.... <eg>

True enough. :-)

> > (they are, however, far too similar to Mystique and Nightcrawler for
> > coincidence - and *German* too)
>
> My point exactly.

And my agreement with your point. :-)

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From:	NaCl(aq) jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:53:09 -0400

Message no. 37 LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this thread, that I have little to no
idea who all of you are in real life. I mean, some people I can guess at by the
name, but some handles are genderless, ageless, and locationless (if that's a
word). I can tell we've got representatives of both genders ( though NEVER has a
girl joined one of my game. :( ) and of a wide range of ages, since I hear mumbles
of playing for over 20 years, so we've got young'uns like me (19) and older
people, in mid 30's and up. I also know that we've got people from many different
countries on here, though which ones, I can't tell. Just thought you all could
take a minute, sit back, and realize you hold discussions with, argue with, joke
around with, etc. these people, many of whom you may never have seen. ( Though I
do realize I'm new to the list, and have no idea if everyone but me has met
everyone else in person, and are lifelong friends ) Strange the relationships
internet can make, no?

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From:	Strago strago@***.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 01 May 2000 00:09:43 -0400

Message no. 38 "NaCl(aq)" wrote:

> LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this thread, that I have little to no
> idea who all of you are in real life. I mean, some people I can guess at by the
> name, but some handles are genderless, ageless, and locationless (if that's a
> word). I can tell we've got representatives of both genders ( though NEVER has a
> girl joined one of my game. :( ) and of a wide range of ages, since I hear mumbles
> of playing for over 20 years, so we've got young'uns like me (19) and older
> people, in mid 30's and up. I also know that we've got people from many different
> countries on here, though which ones, I can't tell. Just thought you all could
> take a minute, sit back, and realize you hold discussions with, argue with, joke
> around with, etc. these people, many of whom you may never have seen. ( Though I
> do realize I'm new to the list, and have no idea if everyone but me has met
> everyone else in person, and are lifelong friends ) Strange the relationships
> internet can make, no?
>

Yeah, I've thought about it. And there's a lot of people on this list who I would LOVE
to meet in real life. The wierdest part is that some of the people on the list I'd
consider closer to me than some of my school chums. I may have to take a trip down to
Australia to meet a few of them (Rand especially. Though I've got this mental picture
of you and meeting you might ruin it for me. And I mean that in a totally non-sexual
kind of way. Really. I mean it. I'm not gay :^) (not that there's anything wrong with
that).) Oh well, I just gotta hope I can get to GenCon this year.

> --
> NaCl(aq), the unknown, faceless guy on the list that no one has ever seen. . . .:)
>

Is that a good thing? :^)

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From:	Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 00:13:12 -0500

Message no. 39 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:53:09 -0400 "NaCl(aq)"
<jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu> writes:
<SNIP>
> --
> NaCl(aq), the unknown, faceless guy on the list that no one has ever
> seen. . . .:)

/me starts a fund raiser to buy NaCl(aq) a face ...
"Alright ... After a 24-hour marathon we ... 4 dollars and 20 cents??? Oh
well ... What was the last bid on the Taco Bell dog's face on eBay?"

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From:	The Phantom phantom023@*******.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 01 May 2000 05:22:31 GMT

Message no. 40 >From: "NaCl(aq)" <jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu>

>
>Ok, easy questions.
But I studied really hard!

>We live in the SR world.
Ummm, yeah, with some timeline changes...
>What race are you?
Still human. Drop me into any RPing setting, and I'd remain human, terran,
whatever. It's just what I am.
>What sex are you?
Male.
>What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
Deck. But one who feels just at ease with the meat realm, as he does with
the Matrix.

>Why?
If you were to turn me into a SR character (even Third Edition), I'd be the
kind that spent most of his skill points on knowledge skill. Decent at
decker, but the kind of guy who knew everything,w/o having to look it up.
When the info, ran short, I would know where to find it and have the methods
of retrieval. Here in reality, I have been called by friends as the Vat of
Useless Knowledge Extending that into SR, would be the decker, who still
can do a bit of everything, but find the stuff you need.

>
>That's it.
You're right. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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>
>
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From:	Peter Kristiansen sds@**.auc.dk
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 09:01:26 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)

Message no. 41 Hmmm. Can't find the original..

> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:16:21 -0400
> From: "NaCl(aq)" <jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu>
>
> > Ok, easy questions.
> > We live in the SR world.
> > What race are you?
Human. Definately. You would know just by looking at me O;-)

> > What sex are you?
I think I'll keep my male gender.

>
> > What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
>
A corporate "decker". Although using either a tortoise or possibly
'trodes. No way anybody is going to drill anything into my skull. Other
cyberware is also just out!

>
> > Why?
>
One have to make a living, and as I'm currently a computer scientist
student, well.. The no cyber thing: I just don't like it, it feels icky
just thinking about plugging a jack-stick into your skull. Possibly I
would have the, argh.. forgot the name of the flaw. The one doubling all
essence costs. Damn memory.

> P.S.: On all answers, does 50% of elven mages seems a good guess ? :)
>
Seems about right O;-)

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From:	Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 01:08:35 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 42 > Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?
> What sex are you?
> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
> Why?
>
> That's it.
> --
> NaCl(aq)

Elf.
Male (I don't think goblinisation affects gender :) ).
Mage - I'd LIKE to be a physical mage, but I think I'm
too sedentary. :) I also prefer the shamanic outlook
in the game, but I'm too cynical and analytical (if
lazily :) ) too be one.

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From:	Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 12:00:26 +0200

Message no. 43 According to NaCl(aq), at 23:53 on 30 Apr 00, the word on the street
was...

> LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this thread, that I have
> little to no idea who all of you are in real life.

The only way to really do that is to meet up with other listmembers IRL.
Go to something like GenCon in the US and you'll find plenty of them :)

> I mean, some people I can guess at by the name, but some handles are
> genderless, ageless, and locationless (if that's a word).

I have no idea who you mean...

;)

> I can tell we've got representatives of both genders ( though NEVER has
> a girl joined one of my game. :( ) and of a wide range of ages, since I
> hear mumbles of playing for over 20 years, so we've got young'uns like
> me (19) and older people, in mid 30's and up. I also know that we've got
> people from many different countries on here, though which ones, I
> can't tell.

Countries are frequently fairly easy: just look at the last bit of the e-
mail address (I can't believe so few people know this these days...)
Granted, .com, .edu or .net doesn't say much, though in most cases those
people are from the US.

> Just thought you all could take a minute, sit back, and realize you hold
> discussions with, argue with, joke around with, etc. these people, many
> of whom you may never have seen.

Oh, I realized that a long time ago already...

> ( Though I do realize I'm new to the list, and have no idea if everyone
> but me has met everyone else in person, and are lifelong friends )

As a matter of fact, I have met a lot of other listmembers in person over
the past six years or so. At a guess, at least some 30 to 35 of them,
maybe more.

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From:	Yiannakos Yiannako@*******.edu
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 11:45:25 -0400

Message no. 44 ----- Original Message -----
From: "NaCl(aq)" <jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu>

> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.

I think some of us do already...

> What race are you?

Most likely ork or human.

> What sex are you?

Still male.

> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

I'd have to say rigger. That would be the coolest. I don't know if I'd want
to be a runner though. Lone Star or Corp Sec probably. If I had to work for
a corp, I'd try for Yamatetsu (sp?)

> Why?

Why not?

---Dave ('s not here man)

From:	Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 10:12:16 -0500

Message no. 45 >Ok, easy questions.

I'm gonna go with the "amusingly distorted realistic distorted projection"
type answer. This is NOTHING like any character I've played, or what who I
would WANT to be if born 60 years later than I was.

>We live in the SR world.
>What race are you?

Ork. It just makes thing harder. More realistically, human- I've never
had any experience with being discriminated against, so I don't see why
"Shadow Seb" would.

>What sex are you?

Who cares? Whichever I was born, I guess- I see no need for
transgendering surgery.

>What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

All of above, and none of them well. Magical adept decker rigger. Yep.
If I was lucky, I'd have a set of skillwires, maybe even a CED, but they
would probably not very high rating. Obviously, my magic rating would blow
chunks, a 2 (with 1 magic power) if I'm lucky. My Adept powers (aside from
magic power) would tend to be subtle (and obviously low level) things -
bodily control, freefall, mystic armor, rapid healing. My magic skills
would suck (maybe even be 0). Then again, I might never have the cash and
moxie to get a VCR, so I might have a decent magic rating and still no
magical skill.
With this variety of skills and abilities, would I be shadowrunning?
Hopefully not. How would I pick them up to begin with? Probably the same
way folks today pick up 6 minors without ever completing their major. I
might have some ridiculous job that doesn't suit my talents at all but gives
me lots of free time, like being a professional dog walker.

>Why?

Because I love technology but also dabble in the occult with some
success (which scares me), and don't have the discipline to study anything
in depth. Because I can't realistically see creating myself as a Shadowrun
character who isn't painfully confused.
I might have gotten a decent magical scholarship and dropped out, which
would probably piss off my family and anybody I met who had ever wanted to
be a mage, which might further discourage me from openly pursuing and using
"real" magic.

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From:	Bad Touch Bonanza demonic_cultist@*****.com
Subject:	If only . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 09:03:45 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 46 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:16:21 -0400 "NaCl(aq)" writes:
> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?
Ork. Big, mean ork.
> What sex are you?
Male. Big, mean male.
> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?
Grab the crowbar, hop on the Rapier, and cause chaos and pain to the
speed bumps along the way, all in quest of a toxin exhaler...or
breath mints.
> Why?
Ahhh yes, the kiss of death. 'Cuz ya can't lead a gang having nasty
breath!

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From:	Wavy Davy ctysmd@***.leeds.ac.uk
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 19:48:58 +0100 (BST)

Message no. 47 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Patrick Goodman wrote:

> From: Wavy Davy
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:03 AM
>
> > > What race are you?
> >
> > Human and some elveses and orkses. No dwarfs. I dont like beards.
>
> Dwarves don't automatically have beards. None that I've ever played in SR
> have had beards, and all the dwarves being played in my current campaign
> are/were clean-shaven (one of them being rather dead at the moment).

It was a weak attempt at humour. Didn't work, obviously :)

I *know* they don't have to have beards, but all the art in SR (except
the female dwarf in High Tech and Low Life : the Art of Shadowrun -
she rocks) has them with beards and my years of playing a multitude of
fanstasy RPG's has re-enforced the image. I guess I have a hard time
visualising a dwarf character without them.

On this point - do people have a mental image of their characters? I
do sometimes and I dont with others. I wish I could draw well (I'm
working on it :), but when I try and draw my PC to show someone
exactly what he looks like, it ends up resembling an dirty, out of
proportioned stick man with guns. *sigh*

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>

From:	Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 11:58:04 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 48 > On this point - do people have a mental image of
> their characters? I
> do sometimes and I dont with others. I wish I
> could draw well (I'm
> working on it :), but when I try and draw my PC to
> show someone
> exactly what he looks like, it ends up resembling
> an dirty, out of
> proportioned stick man with guns. *sigh*
>
> --
> Wavy Davy (who shares wins)

I almost always draw my characters from games... I'll
have to put some of them up sometime...

When I first started I had a pc named Kryz Taulmon, I
picked a pretty face out of a magazine and I kept
trying to find pictures of her with different clothes
and I made a booklet of all the things she'd be
wearing or her as a blonde...I didn't know at the time
Liz Hurley was a big star...*shrug* I don't get out
from under my rock very often.

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From:	Philip Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 01 May 2000 20:04:55 +0100

Message no. 49 on 1/5/00 4:53 am, NaCl(aq) at jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu wrote:

> LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this thread, that I have little to
> no
> idea who all of you are in real life. I mean, some people I can guess at by
> the
> name, but some handles are genderless, ageless, and locationless (if that's a
> word). I can tell we've got representatives of both genders ( though NEVER has
> a
> girl joined one of my game. :( ) and of a wide range of ages, since I hear
> mumbles
> of playing for over 20 years, so we've got young'uns like me (19) and older
> people, in mid 30's and up. I also know that we've got people from many
> different
> countries on here, though which ones, I can't tell. Just thought you all could
> take a minute, sit back, and realize you hold discussions with, argue with,
> joke
> around with, etc. these people, many of whom you may never have seen. ( Though
> I
> do realize I'm new to the list, and have no idea if everyone but me has met
> everyone else in person, and are lifelong friends ) Strange the relationships
> internet can make, no?
>
> --
> NaCl(aq), the unknown, faceless guy on the list that no one has ever seen. . .
> .:)
>

I would actually feel really intimidated if forced to have these same
discussions in a room with all you guys. Quick age poll; I'm seventeen, can
anyone top that?

I know one person on the list in the real world and thats it. I think the
idea is that we all meet at conventions and stuff to defy that theory that
the number of friends you have on-line is indirectly proportional to the
number you have in real life.

Phil

From:	Wavy Davy ctysmd@***.leeds.ac.uk
Subject:	If only. . . . .
Date:	Mon, 1 May 2000 20:05:07 +0100 (BST)

Message no. 50 Ok multiple answers for this one
A) - who I probably would be based on my understanding of me
B) - who I would like to be based on my understanding of me

> NaCl(aq) wrote:
> >
> > Ok, easy questions.
> > We live in the SR world.
>
> > What race are you?

A) Human, elf wannabe
B) Elven, IE wannabe (soem people are never satisfied!)

> > What sex are you?

A) Erm let me think... If I am in 2060 who I am now in 2000...male?
B) male (nothing personal, but I dont understand
the fairer sex now, if I was one, I'd be really buggered! Although
the idea has some merit. hmmm...... :)

> > What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

A) Tricky one this. IRL I fall into to the 'Jack of all trades, master
of none category' so I probably would in SR. I would brobably a
competent but not brilliant decker, musician, actor, dancer, and
christian nut-case(!). I imagine I'd probably be into roleplay games
set in the year 2120 where magic doesn't exist and there is no
cyberware.
B) Hermetic mage. If I can choose to be awakened, I would be.
Heremetic cos of no restrictions. Maybe the chaos mage I metioned
earlier.....

> > Why?

A) Dunno. Ask God
B) All the things my puny mind wants to be but feels restricted by
his cinscience and abilities

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Message no. 51 On Mon, 01 May 2000 20:04:55 +0100 Philip Smith
<phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Quick age poll; I'm
> seventeen, can
> anyone top that?

I hope you mean is anyone younger than that, sonny. :)

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Message no. 52 --- Philip Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> wrote:
> on 1/5/00 4:53 am, NaCl(aq) at
> jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu wrote:
>
> > LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this
> thread, that I have little to
> > no
> > idea who all of you are in real life. I mean, some
> people I can guess at by
> > the
> > name, but some handles are genderless, ageless,
> and locationless (if that's a
> > word). I can tell we've got representatives of
> both genders ( though NEVER has
> > a
> > girl joined one of my game. :( ) and of a wide
> range of ages, since I hear
> > mumbles
> > of playing for over 20 years, so we've got
> young'uns like me (19) and older
> > people, in mid 30's and up. I also know that we've
> got people from many
> > different
> > countries on here, though which ones, I can't
> tell. Just thought you all could
> > take a minute, sit back, and realize you hold
> discussions with, argue with,
> > joke
> > around with, etc. these people, many of whom you
> may never have seen. ( Though
> > I
> > do realize I'm new to the list, and have no idea
> if everyone but me has met
> > everyone else in person, and are lifelong friends
> ) Strange the relationships
> > internet can make, no?
> >
> > --
> > NaCl(aq), the unknown, faceless guy on the list
> that no one has ever seen. . .
> > .:)
> >
>
> I would actually feel really intimidated if forced
> to have these same
> discussions in a room with all you guys. Quick age
> poll; I'm seventeen, can
> anyone top that?
>
> I know one person on the list in the real world and
> thats it. I think the
> idea is that we all meet at conventions and stuff to
> defy that theory that
> the number of friends you have on-line is indirectly
> proportional to the
> number you have in real life.
>
> Phil

I'm 21, so I guess I'm "Topping" it...just can't
"Bottom" it... Ok, enough with the bad humor. But how
many of you had your fiance joke with you that you
should go to GenCon for your honeymoon and you jumped
up, said "Ohmigod! Yes!" and now have a room at the
Hilton for GenCon(which I checked and was sold out
months ago)? My fiance thought he was being
humerous... I thought it was a Wonderful idea! He
didn't know what he was getting himself into that one
day he invited this girl he had just started dating to
roleplay with him and his buddies... Now look! He's
going to GenCon, and has been threatened by his wife
to be that he had better have weekly gaming at thier
house or else! If nothing else his buddies like the
last idea.

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Message no. 53 On Mon, 1 May 2000, Raveness Ravensbane wrote:

> I almost always draw my characters from games... I'll
> have to put some of them up sometime...

Please do - I for one love looking at other people characters and
character ideas

> When I first started I had a pc named Kryz Taulmon, I
> picked a pretty face out of a magazine and I kept
> trying to find pictures of her with different clothes
> and I made a booklet of all the things she'd be
> wearing or her as a blonde...I didn't know at the time
> Liz Hurley was a big star...*shrug* I don't get out
> from under my rock very often.

Trouble is, I ain't never seen Liz Hurly in an armoured jump suit
plugged in a deck. But boy would I like to :)

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Message no. 54 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, NaCl(aq) wrote:

> LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this thread, that I have little to no
> idea who all of you are in real life. I mean, some people I can guess at by the
> name, but some handles are genderless, ageless, and locationless (if that's a
> word). I can tell we've got representatives of both genders ( though NEVER has a
> girl joined one of my game. :( ) and of a wide range of ages, since I hear mumbles
> of playing for over 20 years, so we've got young'uns like me (19) and older
> people, in mid 30's and up. I also know that we've got people from many different
> countries on here, though which ones, I can't tell. Just thought you all could
> take a minute, sit back, and realize you hold discussions with, argue with, joke
> around with, etc. these people, many of whom you may never have seen. ( Though I
> do realize I'm new to the list, and have no idea if everyone but me has met
> everyone else in person, and are lifelong friends ) Strange the relationships
> internet can make, no?

Well I aint never been to a gaming convention yet, at the USA is a bit
far for a weekend trip, but I am planning to attend GenCon UK this
year and would definatly be interested with meeting up with wiht other
list folks. Anyone going?

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Message no. 55 Raveness Ravensbane wrote:

> <SNIP>
> I'm 21, so I guess I'm "Topping" it...just can't
> "Bottom" it... Ok, enough with the bad humor. But how
> many of you had your fiance joke with you that you
> should go to GenCon for your honeymoon and you jumped
> up, said "Ohmigod! Yes!" and now have a room at the
> Hilton for GenCon(which I checked and was sold out
> months ago)? My fiance thought he was being
> humerous... I thought it was a Wonderful idea! He
> didn't know what he was getting himself into that one
> day he invited this girl he had just started dating to
> roleplay with him and his buddies... Now look! He's
> going to GenCon, and has been threatened by his wife
> to be that he had better have weekly gaming at thier
> house or else! If nothing else his buddies like the
> last idea.
>

Geez, 21, going to Gen-Con, has a fiancee, probably's got some form of
full-time job (besides college student) and she roleplays. On a
regular basis. God Damn. Why can't my life resemble that? Here's me:

21, has to go to summer school (how was I to know that Chemistry
Laboratory 1 and 2 were not separate classes even though they are
listed on my transcript separately?), doesn't have a job yet, not even
a girlfriend, and my school group hasn't met for three months. God,
I'm so depressed. I think I'll go to bed now.
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Message no. 56 >Geez, 21, going to Gen-Con, has a fiancee, probably's got some form of
>full-time job (besides college student) and she roleplays. On a
>regular basis. God Damn. Why can't my life resemble that? Here's me:
>
>21, has to go to summer school (how was I to know that Chemistry
>Laboratory 1 and 2 were not separate classes even though they are
>listed on my transcript separately?), doesn't have a job yet, not even
>a girlfriend, and my school group hasn't met for three months. God,
>I'm so depressed. I think I'll go to bed now.
>--
>--Strago

Awww, in light of the friendly air tonight (caused by the if only string of
e-mails) I would like to declare a group hug! :)

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Message no. 57 --- Joshua Ring <strago@***.com> wrote:
> Raveness Ravensbane wrote:
>
> > <SNIP>
> > I'm 21, so I guess I'm "Topping" it...just can't
> > "Bottom" it... Ok, enough with the bad humor. But
> how
> > many of you had your fiance joke with you that you
> > should go to GenCon for your honeymoon and you
> jumped
> > up, said "Ohmigod! Yes!" and now have a room at
> the
> > Hilton for GenCon(which I checked and was sold out
> > months ago)? My fiance thought he was being
> > humerous... I thought it was a Wonderful idea! He
> > didn't know what he was getting himself into that
> one
> > day he invited this girl he had just started
> dating to
> > roleplay with him and his buddies... Now look!
> He's
> > going to GenCon, and has been threatened by his
> wife
> > to be that he had better have weekly gaming at
> thier
> > house or else! If nothing else his buddies like
> the
> > last idea.
> >
>
> Geez, 21, going to Gen-Con, has a fiancee,
> probably's got some form of
> full-time job (besides college student) and she
> roleplays. On a
> regular basis. God Damn. Why can't my life resemble
> that? Here's me:

Not to depress you more, but actually I'm taking an
extra class in computer art, but I've already got my
associates in computers and that's it for right
now...but I do have a full time job as a help desk
tech so I can keep my pretty 99 grand am and move out
in 81 days...Ahhh to have the joy of gaming without
parents there to bug you...

> 21, has to go to summer school (how was I to know
> that Chemistry
> Laboratory 1 and 2 were not separate classes even
> though they are
> listed on my transcript separately?), doesn't have a
> job yet, not even
> a girlfriend, and my school group hasn't met for
> three months. God,
> I'm so depressed. I think I'll go to bed now.
> --
> --Strago

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Message no. 58 Phil Smith wrote:

> >Geez, 21, going to Gen-Con, has a fiancee, probably's got some form of
> >full-time job (besides college student) and she roleplays. On a
> >regular basis. God Damn. Why can't my life resemble that? Here's me:
> >
> >21, has to go to summer school (how was I to know that Chemistry
> >Laboratory 1 and 2 were not separate classes even though they are
> >listed on my transcript separately?), doesn't have a job yet, not even
> >a girlfriend, and my school group hasn't met for three months. God,
> >I'm so depressed. I think I'll go to bed now.
> >--
> >--Strago
>
> Awww, in light of the friendly air tonight (caused by the if only string of
> e-mails) I would like to declare a group hug! :)
>

Thanks. I'm touched. Really. No sarcasm intended. Seriously. :^)

>
> Phil
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Message no. 59 On Mon, 1 May 2000 13:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Raveness Ravensbane
<ravenessravensbane@*****.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Not to depress you more, but actually I'm taking an
> extra class in computer art, but I've already got my
> associates in computers and that's it for right
> now...but I do have a full time job as a help desk
> tech so I can keep my pretty 99 grand am and move out
> in 81 days...Ahhh to have the joy of gaming without
> parents there to bug you...
<SNIP>

Do you have a sister? ;)

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Message no. 60 > Yeah, I've thought about it. And there's a lot of
people on this list who I would LOVE to meet in real
life. The wierdest part is that some of the people on
the list I'd consider closer to me than some of my
school chums. I may have to take a trip down to
Australia to meet a few of them (Rand especially.
Though I've got this mental picture of you and meeting
you might ruin it for me. And I mean that in a totally
non-sexual kind of way. Really. I mean it. I'm not gay
:^) (not that there's anything wrong with that).) Oh
well, I just gotta hope I can get to GenCon this year.
> --Strago

And I'll take it in the weird, yet totally non-sexual
way in which it was intended. ;)

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Message no. 61 <BigSnip(TM)>
> I'm 21, so I guess I'm "Topping" it...just can't
"Bottom" it... Ok, enough with the bad humor. But how
many of you had your fiance joke with you that you
should go to GenCon for your honeymoon and you jumped
up, said "Ohmigod! Yes!" and now have a room at the
Hilton for GenCon(which I checked and was sold out
months ago)? My fiance thought he was being
humerous... I thought it was a Wonderful idea! He
didn't know what he was getting himself into that one
day he invited this girl he had just started dating to
roleplay with him and his buddies... Now look! He's
going to GenCon, and has been threatened by his wife
to be that he had better have weekly gaming at thier
house or else! If nothing else his buddies like the
last idea.
<Raveness>

Okay, you just tell him that a) he's a lucky bastard,
and b) you'd better not tell this story at GenCon, or
he's liable to get himself murdered by jealous
RPGeeks. :)

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Message no. 62 According to Philip Smith, at 20:04 on 1 May 00, the word on the street
was...

> I would actually feel really intimidated if forced to have these same
> discussions in a room with all you guys.

It's easier than it may look :)

> Quick age poll; I'm seventeen, can anyone top that?

Of course we can; I'm 25, and there are one or two people twice my age on
this list... There are probably also younger listmembers (though Wyrmy
must be around 17 now, I'll always think of him as 15 :)

> I know one person on the list in the real world and thats it. I think the
> idea is that we all meet at conventions and stuff to defy that theory that
> the number of friends you have on-line is indirectly proportional to the
> number you have in real life.

You may be on to something there...

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Message no. 63 According to Wavy Davy, at 20:46 on 1 May 00, the word on the street
was...

> Well I aint never been to a gaming convention yet, at the USA is a bit
> far for a weekend trip

Most definitely... I wouldn't advise anyone to make a quick trip to the US
just for GenCon (unless you happen to live in Canada :)

> but I am planning to attend GenCon UK this
> year and would definatly be interested with meeting up with wiht other
> list folks. Anyone going?

You already know the answer to that, don't you? :)

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Message no. 64 -----Original Message-----
From: Gurth <gurth@******.nl>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: If only. . . . .

According to NaCl(aq), at 23:53 on 30 Apr 00, the word on the street
was...

> LOL. I realized, from reading the posts in this thread, that I have
> little to no idea who all of you are in real life.

You could go to http://home.iprimus.com.au/sfuller/ and find out a little
bit too much about me if you really wanted (shameless plug of my web site).

Message no. 65 -----Original Message-----
From: Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: If only. . . . .

>I'm 21, so I guess I'm "Topping" it...just can't
>"Bottom" it... Ok, enough with the bad humor. But how
>many of you had your fiance joke with you that you
>should go to GenCon for your honeymoon and you jumped
>up, said "Ohmigod! Yes!" and now have a room at the
>Hilton for GenCon(which I checked and was sold out
>months ago)? My fiance thought he was being
>humerous...

See, now if I did that with MY fiance, I don't know about the Hilton, but I
think I'd now have a room in the doghouse :?)

Message no. 66 From: Gurth
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 4:00 AM

> > Quick age poll; I'm seventeen, can anyone top that?
>
> Of course we can; I'm 25, and there are one or two people twice my
> age on this list...

Okay, for the record, I'm 34 and I live in Amarillo, TX. At least for the
moment.

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Message no. 67 --- Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 May 2000 13:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Raveness
> Ravensbane
> <ravenessravensbane@*****.com> writes:
> <SNIP>
> > Not to depress you more, but actually I'm taking
> an
> > extra class in computer art, but I've already got
> my
> > associates in computers and that's it for right
> > now...but I do have a full time job as a help desk
> > tech so I can keep my pretty 99 grand am and move
> out
> > in 81 days...Ahhh to have the joy of gaming
> without
> > parents there to bug you...
> <SNIP>
>
> Do you have a sister? ;)
>
> --
> D. Ghost

Nope, I'm a spoiled only daughter with two troll like
half brothers. But I'm not even going into fraternal
sisters...only one of them likes to game and she's not
even 16 yet...

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>
>
> Nope, I'm a spoiled only daughter with two troll like
> half brothers. But I'm not even going into fraternal
> sisters...only one of them likes to game and she's not
> even 16 yet...
>
>

Am I the only male going "gaaaaa. .. . " and twitching because I've been
looking for a person like raveness a lot, and she's taken? Anyway, the
SR relavence of this: I've never had a chance to do mixed gender gaming.
Since I'm sure you all have, is it more fun than all males? Should I
REALLY try to recruit women to the game?

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Nope, I'm a spoiled only daughter with two troll like
 half brothers. But I'm not even going into fraternal
 sisters...only one of them likes to game and she's not
 even 16 yet...
  
 <a
href="http://im.yahoo.com/"></a> </blockquote>;
Am I the only male going "gaaaaa. .. . " and twitching because I've been
looking for a person like raveness a lot, and she's taken? Anyway, the
SR relavence of this: I've never had a chance to do mixed gender gaming.
Since I'm sure you all have, is it more fun than all males? Should I REALLY
try to recruit women to the game?
  
  
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Message no. 69 > > Nope, I'm a spoiled only daughter with two troll like
> > half brothers. But I'm not even going into fraternal
> > sisters...only one of them likes to game and she's not
> > even 16 yet...
> >
> Am I the only male going "gaaaaa. .. . " and twitching because
I've been
> looking for a person like raveness a lot, and she's taken?
Anyway, the
> SR relavence of this: I've never had a chance to do mixed
gender gaming.
> Since I'm sure you all have, is it more fun than all males?
Should I
> REALLY try to recruit women to the game?
>

Take note, all you gamers thinking of settling down serious,
finding a gaming mate will save you years of consternation.

But to answer your question, yes, recruit mixed genders for your
games; it brings a new perspective to your sessions, and tends to
moderate everyone's behavior...::grin::

Argent

Message no. 70 On Tue, 2 May 2000, Patrick Goodman wrote:

> From: Gurth
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 4:00 AM
>
> > > Quick age poll; I'm seventeen, can anyone top that?
> >
> > Of course we can; I'm 25, and there are one or two people twice my
> > age on this list...
>
> Okay, for the record, I'm 34 and I live in Amarillo, TX. At least for the
> moment.
>
To add to this growing list - Simon "Wavy" Davy checking in at 22yrs and
counting :)

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Message no. 71 > Take note, all you gamers thinking of settling down serious,
> finding a gaming mate will save you years of consternation.
>
> But to answer your question, yes, recruit mixed genders for your
> games; it brings a new perspective to your sessions, and tends to
> moderate everyone's behavior...::grin::

Hmm...maybe that's what my group (same as NaCl(aq)'s) needs. We have this
problem with staying on topic. Typical session goes something like this:
<roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated tangent for 10
minutes>, <roleplay for 15 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 10
minutes>, <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 5
minutes>, etc. Are we the only group that has this problem?

Arcanum
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Message no. 72 Edward Huyer wrote:

> > Take note, all you gamers thinking of settling down serious,
> > finding a gaming mate will save you years of consternation.
> >
> > But to answer your question, yes, recruit mixed genders for your
> > games; it brings a new perspective to your sessions, and tends to
> > moderate everyone's behavior...::grin::
>
> Hmm...maybe that's what my group (same as NaCl(aq)'s) needs. We have this
> problem with staying on topic. Typical session goes something like this:
> <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated tangent for 10
> minutes>, <roleplay for 15 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 10
> minutes>, <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 5
> minutes>, etc. Are we the only group that has this problem?
>

No, but with my group it seems like it's more like:
<roleplay for 5 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated tangent for 10 minutes>,
<roleplay for 30 minutes>, <argue about some game mechanic (usually after one
of the players gets shot)>, <listen to that player bitch for 5 minutes>,
<listen to the GM say he doesn't care for 2 minutes>, <argue about dinner for
30 minutes>, <wait for one of the players to get dinner for 20 minutes>,
<roleplay for 30 minutes>, <go off on another unrelated tangent (or an
exposition of past runs) for 10 minutes>, <"oh, we're getting thrown out now.
See you next week">

>
> Arcanum
> Edward Huyer
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Message no. 73 Strago <strago@***.com> writes:
> No, but with my group it seems like it's more like:
> <roleplay for 5 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated tangent for 10
minutes>,
> <roleplay for 30 minutes>, <argue about some game mechanic (usually after
one
> of the players gets shot)>, <listen to that player bitch for 5 minutes>,
> <listen to the GM say he doesn't care for 2 minutes>, <argue about dinner
for
> 30 minutes>, <wait for one of the players to get dinner for 20 minutes>,
> <roleplay for 30 minutes>, <go off on another unrelated tangent (or an
> exposition of past runs) for 10 minutes>, <"oh, we're getting thrown out
now.
> See you next week">

I can't say we're much better, but we've gotten around the
food problem... I now take orders over e-mail and zephyr (an ancient
instant messaging service) the day we run, and show up to the run with
food. The pre-game BSing now includes food, and all parties are
happy. Especially me, since I pick the restaurant.
I suppose food might be harder if we could find a free block
of time to meet longer than 3 hours each week.

Mark

Message no. 74 Edward Huyer wrote:

>
>
> Hmm...maybe that's what my group (same as NaCl(aq)'s) needs. We have this
> problem with staying on topic. Typical session goes something like this:
> <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated tangent for 10
> minutes>, <roleplay for 15 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 10
> minutes>, <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 5
> minutes>, etc. Are we the only group that has this problem?
>
> Arcanum
> Edward Huyer
> arcanum@*****.com
> ICQ# 1667646

Hey, hey, hey. We were good last week. We went off topic on ONE topic for at
least a half hour. And you have to admit, killing twinkies is REALLY fun.

And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an object ( homo whatzit that
I can't spell ) be able to keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally to a
twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of twinkies, will they all decay
and die?

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Message no. 75 > And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an object ( homo whatzit that
> I can't spell ) be able to keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally to a
> twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of twinkies, will they all decay
> and die?

Twinkie's can decay?

Bai Shen

Message no. 76 On Tue, 2 May 2000, NaCl(aq) wrote:

> And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an object ( homo whatzit that
> I can't spell ) be able to keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally to a
> twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of twinkies, will they all decay
> and die?
>

Twinkies have a shelf life of twenty some odd years, much longer than the
lifespan of your average runner.

Grendel

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Message no. 77 At 02:41 PM 5/2/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>
>And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an object ( homo whatzit that
>I can't spell ) be able to keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally
to a
>twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of twinkies, will they all decay
>and die?
>

Only after you've been in the ground for a century or two. Free spirit
twinky homonculi.

Phil

Message no. 78 >NaCl(aq) Wrote
>Raveness Ravensbane wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Nope, I'm a spoiled only daughter with two troll like
> > half brothers. But I'm not even going into fraternal
> > sisters...only one of them likes to game and she's not
> > even 16 yet...
> >
> >
>
>Am I the only male going "gaaaaa. .. . " and twitching because I've been
>looking for a person like raveness a lot

No; but then I'm not very seventeen. How not sisteen is this sister of
yours? :)

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Message no. 79 >Hmm...maybe that's what my group (same as NaCl(aq)'s) needs. We have this
>problem with staying on topic. Typical session goes something like this:
><roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated tangent for 10
>minutes>, <roleplay for 15 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 10
>minutes>, <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on unrelated tangent for 5
>minutes>, etc. Are we the only group that has this problem?
>
>Arcanum

My Saturdays go like this <Plan run for 1-2 hours>,<everyone arrives>,
<roleplay for 30 seconds>, <players start discussing something irrelevant>,
<shot at players>, <roleplay for a further minute or so>, <players start
discussing masturbation or someother topic I really don't want to discuss>,
<shout at players>, <everyone sulks/shouts back>, <repeat ad infinitum>.

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Message no. 80 > Hmm...maybe that's what my group (same as
> NaCl(aq)'s) needs. We have this
> problem with staying on topic. Typical session goes
> something like this:
> <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on some unrelated
> tangent for 10
> minutes>, <roleplay for 15 minutes>, <go off on
> unrelated tangent for 10
> minutes>, <roleplay for 10 minutes>, <go off on
> unrelated tangent for 5
> minutes>, etc. Are we the only group that has this
> problem?

Our group does the same thing...'cept they keep the
"tub o' dice" away from me because I started throwing
dice at people who got off topic...and no, it didn't
stop me when I got Spanky in the eye with a 4 sided
die...he kept talking so I kept throwing...Now I have
a pop gun...

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Message no. 81 >And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an object ( homo whatzit
>that
>I can't spell ) be able to keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally
>to a
>twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of twinkies, will they all
>decay
>and die?
>
>
>
>--
>NaCl(aq)

I always thought it would be rather cool to have an ally spirit inhabit a
Yamaha Rapier but MITS says no. I can't see is as being particularly game
unbalancing though.

Phil
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Message no. 82 > Race : Human (No pesky racisim Problems to deal with and who wants to
> live forever anyway)

ME?

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Message no. 83 On Tue, 02 May 2000 21:51:49 GMT "Phil Smith"
<phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> I always thought it would be rather cool to have an ally spirit
> inhabit a
> Yamaha Rapier but MITS says no. I can't see is as being
> particularly game
> unbalancing though.

Where?

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->On Tue, 2 May 2000, Patrick Goodman wrote:
->
->> From: Gurth
->> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 4:00 AM
->>
->> > > Quick age poll; I'm seventeen, can anyone top that?
->> >
->> > Of course we can; I'm 25, and there are one or two people twice my
->> > age on this list...
->>
->> Okay, for the record, I'm 34 and I live in Amarillo, TX. At
->least for the
->> moment.
->>
-> To add to this growing list - Simon "Wavy" Davy checking in at 22yrs and
-> counting :)

Message no. 85 On Tue, 2 May 2000 00:37:53 +0100 (BST) Spike <spike1@*******.co.uk>
writes:
> > Race : Human (No pesky racisim Problems to deal with and who wants to

> > live forever anyway)
>
Uh, me.

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Message no. 86 Spike wrote:
>
> > Race : Human (No pesky racisim Problems to deal with and who wants to
> > live forever anyway)
>
> ME?

Trust me. You wouldn't enjoy it.

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Message no. 87 From: Iridios <iridios@*****.com>
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:25:01 -0400

>Spike wrote:
>>
>> > Race : Human (No pesky racisim Problems to deal with and who wants to
>> > live forever anyway)
>>
>> ME?
>
>Trust me. You wouldn't enjoy it.

Speaking from personal experience? :o)

Jill

Message no. 88 Jill Menning wrote:
>
> From: Iridios <iridios@*****.com>
> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:25:01 -0400
>
> >Spike wrote:
> >>
> >> > Race : Human (No pesky racisim Problems to deal with and who wants to
> >> > live forever anyway)
> >>
> >> ME?
> >
> >Trust me. You wouldn't enjoy it.
>
> Speaking from personal experience? :o)

I did not claim any such thing. :)

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Message no. 89 -----Original Message-----
From: Thanatos <grendel@**********.dt1.sdca.home.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: If only. . . . .

>On Tue, 2 May 2000, NaCl(aq) wrote:
>
>> And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an object ( homo whatzit
that
>> I can't spell ) be able to keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally
to a
>> twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of twinkies, will they all
decay
>> and die?
>>
>
>Twinkies have a shelf life of twenty some odd years, much longer than the
>lifespan of your average runner.
>
>Grendel

See, that's one of the things I don't understand about Americans. I've
tasted Twinkies. They are not good. Not good at all. Yet in the US they seem
to revere them as the demigods of the fast food industry. I can't be alone,
since the big Twinkie invasion of Australia last decade failed miserably and
now you can not find them anywhere (same as the big American Football
invasion of '98 -heh heh-).
So, just so you know this post is relevant, Twinkies should not be allies,
they should be Totems, but restricted to the US. Worshipped by remarkably
long lived but fat shamans, with regenerative powers.
I might just shut up now. :?)

Message no. 90 "Simon and Fiona" <sfuller@******.com.au> writes:
> tasted Twinkies. They are not good. Not good at all. Yet in the US they seem
> to revere them as the demigods of the fast food industry. I can't be alone,
> since the big Twinkie invasion of Australia last decade failed miserably and
> now you can not find them anywhere (same as the big American Football
> invasion of '98 -heh heh-).

It's not that twinkies are good, but that they are widespread,
well-known, and easily identifiable. Most of the people I know
haven't had a twinkie in years. It's sort of like spam and Monty
Python skits. They're a fine topic of discussion, but a lot of us
don't actually eat the things.

> So, just so you know this post is relevant, Twinkies should not be allies,
> they should be Totems, but restricted to the US. Worshipped by remarkably
> long lived but fat shamans, with regenerative powers.

Americans? long-lived? with *our* stereotypical diet?

mmm, Spam(tm) totem...

MArk

Message no. 91 Mark A Shieh wrote:
>
> "Simon and Fiona" <sfuller@******.com.au> writes:
> > tasted Twinkies. They are not good. Not good at all. Yet in the US they seem
> > to revere them as the demigods of the fast food industry. I can't be alone,
> > since the big Twinkie invasion of Australia last decade failed miserably and
> > now you can not find them anywhere (same as the big American Football
> > invasion of '98 -heh heh-).
>
> It's not that twinkies are good, but that they are widespread,
> well-known, and easily identifiable.

But what is the reason that twinkies are so widespread?

IMO, it has to do with when twinkies were first developed. IIRC,
twinkies were developed in the 50's or 60's. The Golden Age before the
arrival of information overload. Kids (of all ages) back then were
awestruck by twinkies. It was a marvel of "modern" food science. The
fact that they lasted for so long just added to the awe. When those
kids grew up, they passed on their near reverance of twinkies to their
kids. And so on and so forth.

I believe that if twinkies were introduced for the first time within
the past 10 years, that they would have not done as well. Too many
people have different ideas of what "tastes" good. Not to mention all
the "health" food crazes. And even those help carry on the legacy of
the twinkie when dieters look back to the good ol' days of eating
twinkies in the hot summer sun.

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Message no. 92 > See, that's one of the things I don't understand about Americans. I've
> tasted Twinkies. They are not good. Not good at all. Yet in the US they
seem
> to revere them as the demigods of the fast food industry. I can't be
alone,
> since the big Twinkie invasion of Australia last decade failed miserably
and
> now you can not find them anywhere (same as the big American Football
> invasion of '98 -heh heh-).
> So, just so you know this post is relevant, Twinkies should not be allies,
> they should be Totems, but restricted to the US. Worshipped by remarkably
> long lived but fat shamans, with regenerative powers.
> I might just shut up now. :?)

We love Twinkies so much precisely because they are the epitome of American
fast food. Cheap, primarily artificial or processed, indefinite shelf life,
and extremely unhealthy. The fact that they taste odd is of secondary
concern.

We Americans are perverse creatures, aren't we? :)

Arcanum
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Message no. 93 > Our group does the same thing...'cept they keep the
> "tub o' dice" away from me because I started throwing
> dice at people who got off topic...and no, it didn't
> stop me when I got Spanky in the eye with a 4 sided
> die...he kept talking so I kept throwing...Now I have
> a pop gun...

Our group is intermittently fond of Nerf guns. They help some, when people
remember to bring them.

Arcanum
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Message no. 94 Simon and Fiona wrote:

> See, that's one of the things I don't understand about Americans. I've
> tasted Twinkies. They are not good. Not good at all. Yet in the US they seem
> to revere them as the demigods of the fast food industry. I can't be alone,
> since the big Twinkie invasion of Australia last decade failed miserably and
> now you can not find them anywhere (same as the big American Football
> invasion of '98 -heh heh-).
> So, just so you know this post is relevant, Twinkies should not be allies,
> they should be Totems, but restricted to the US. Worshipped by remarkably
> long lived but fat shamans, with regenerative powers.
> I might just shut up now. :?)

Hate to break it to you, but we brought this up at our last gaming session. We
couldn't decide what bonuses to give, so gave up. :) Though I must admit, the
high point of the night was convincing everyone you had to beat a twinkie
against something to make sure it's dead. One of the gamers took one and slammed
it against a table. Broke it in half, spraying twinkie 'blood' everywhere. We
almost died laughing. Which brings me to the point of this post. I realize many
gaming sessions go for long periods of time, and that food is often
ordered/brought so you don't starve. What is good SR food to eat? I always end
up bringing stuff, but that's cause my parents send me food every week. Has
anyone found a really GOOD food that will make a GM really, really nice and give
you stuff? ( See, I know my GM is a list member, and I'm trying to force him
into posting by talking about him. ;) )

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Message no. 95 "NaCl(aq)" wrote:

> Ok, easy questions.
> We live in the SR world.
> What race are you?

Centaur! But if that's not an available choice, fomori (the attractive
trolls, not the nasty monster things) or human-looking ork are acceptable.
:)

>
> What sex are you?

Female.

>
> What do you do (deck, magic, etc.)?

Probably a magician, tradition shamanic or possibly druidic. Regardless, I'm
out in the woods with the pagans. :> Occupation: paranormal critters and
occult specialist. I love mysteries and spooky stuff and all that, and I'd
probably spend tons and tons of time researching spells, different magical
traditions, spirits, and all that fun stuff. And I've always been fascinated
with mythological beasties and 'mundane' animals alike. I think I'd make a
good barghest handler. :) And, given my love of driving, I'd probably do a
little rigging on the side.

>
> Why?
>

See above.

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Message no. 96 <Snippola(TM)>
> Hey, hey, hey. We were good last week. We went off
topic on ONE topic for at least a half hour. And you
have to admit, killing twinkies is REALLY fun.
>
> And for the SR relavence: Would a ally bound to an
object ( homo whatzit that I can't spell ) be able to
keep it from decaying? Like, if I bind an ally to a
twinkie, give it levitate, and make an army of
twinkies, will they all decay and die?
> NaCl(aq)

I don't think so. IIRC, having an ally inhabit the
body of an animal gives the animal unnatural
longevity. I'd say the same applies to an inanimate
object.

Of course, your ally would be in danger if you had a
pet dog.

I wonder - allies add their force to the attributes of
animals they inhabit - so what attributes does a
twinkie have?

*Doc' ponders a great dilemma...is an ally spirit
classed as an artificial preservative...?*

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Message no. 97 > you stuff? ( See, I know my GM is a list member, and I'm trying to force
him
> into posting by talking about him. ;) )

You Fail.
:)

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Message no. 98 > NaCl(aq) wrote:
> I realize many gaming sessions go for long periods of time,
> and that food is often ordered/brought so you don't starve.
> What is good SR food to eat?

Soyburgers. What could be more atmospheric?

What are Twinkies, anyway? I've never heard of it before.
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Message no. 99 Even wrote:

>
> What are Twinkies, anyway? I've never heard of it before.

the official site:
http://www.twinkies.com/

http://www.voicenet.com/~steinfor/twinkie.htm
for twinkie experiments

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Message no. 100 > Has anyone found a really GOOD food that will make a
GM really, really nice and give you stuff? ( See, I
know my GM is a list member, and I'm trying to force
him into posting by talking about him. ;) )

NaCl(aq)

I don't know about really good GM food, but I do know
that if you bring fat free or low cal oreo's to a
gaming session, the guys won't eat it if it's still in
the bag. To get around this... wait until the next
session, get an empty regular bag of oreos, open it
(don't necessarily have to take any out) and put the
low cal/low fat oreos on a plate and put it in the
middle of the table and they'll never know the
difference.
Mu ha ha ha!

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Message no. 101 "NaCl(aq)" <jed7466@******.isc.rit.edu> writes:
> it against a table. Broke it in half, spraying twinkie 'blood'
> everywhere. We almost died laughing. Which brings me to the point of
> this post. I realize many gaming sessions go for long periods of
> time, and that food is often ordered/brought so you don't starve. What
> is good SR food to eat?

My first year at college, there was a tradition of ordering
from Domino's. (they accepted funny money from our meal plans)
With my current group, it's Chinese food. Someone once tried
to suggest that we order something else, and received a bunch of
strange looks in response. My current GM has noted that we've started
to associate Chinese delivery with Shadowrun because we always have
one when we have the other...

Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com> writes:
> [snip oreo story]

*rofl*

Mark

Message no. 102 According to Even, at 13:07 on 3 May 00, the word on the street was...

> > What is good SR food to eat?
>
> Soyburgers. What could be more atmospheric?

> What are Twinkies, anyway? I've never heard of it before.

They're some American "food," which, unless I'm mistaken, is some kind of
soggy cake-type stuff surrounded by white cream-type stuff (notice the
accuracy of this description :) and a thin layer of chocolate.

Or am I thinking of something else entirely here? And if I am, what was it
that somebody gave me to eat during the SR tournament at GenCon last year?

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Message no. 103 >From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com>
> > I always thought it would be rather cool to have an ally spirit
> > inhabit a
> > Yamaha Rapier but MITS says no. I can't see is as being
> > particularly game
> > unbalancing though.
>
>Where?

Come to think of it I could be wrong; I just got the impression from the
homunculus table (pg 108) that it is one material per ally. The inhabiting
power is limited to living bodys so unless one of the ally's forms is a bike
... now there's an idea!

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Message no. 104 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>

> They're some American "food," which, unless I'm mistaken, is some kind of
> soggy cake-type stuff surrounded by white cream-type stuff (notice the
> accuracy of this description :) and a thin layer of chocolate.

Close, but it's actually a petroleum-based "cream" filling inside a kind of
pound cake shell. Overall dimensions approx. 3x1.5 inches.

---Dave ('s not here man)
*who hates the damn things*

Message no. 105 >Hate to break it to you, but we brought this up at our last gaming session.
>We
>couldn't decide what bonuses to give, so gave up. :) Though I must admit,
>the
>high point of the night was convincing everyone you had to beat a twinkie
>against something to make sure it's dead. One of the gamers took one and
>slammed
>it against a table. Broke it in half, spraying twinkie 'blood' everywhere.
>We
>almost died laughing. Which brings me to the point of this post. I realize
>many
>gaming sessions go for long periods of time, and that food is often
>ordered/brought so you don't starve. What is good SR food to eat? I always
>end
>up bringing stuff, but that's cause my parents send me food every week. Has
>anyone found a really GOOD food that will make a GM really, really nice and
>give
>you stuff? ( See, I know my GM is a list member, and I'm trying to force
>him
>into posting by talking about him. ;) )
>
>--
>NaCl(aq)

Doesn't work for everyone but Cadbe.. Cadbury...Cadbery's...(help me out
here someone) Crunchy Chocolate Fingers go down fantasticly at my games.
We're also fond of pizza.

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Message no. 106 > > What are Twinkies, anyway? I've never heard of it before.
>
> They're some American "food," which, unless I'm mistaken, is some kind of
> soggy cake-type stuff surrounded by white cream-type stuff (notice the
> accuracy of this description :) and a thin layer of chocolate.
>
> Or am I thinking of something else entirely here? And if I am, what was it
> that somebody gave me to eat during the SR tournament at GenCon last year?

You are thinking of something else. Twinkies are small, stiffish yellow
cakes filled with some kind of white cream. They are remarkable because
they are made almost entirely of artificial and processed ingredients, and
for their incredibly long shelf-life (or perhaps half-life would be more
appropriate).

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Message no. 107 ----- Original Message -----
From: Gurth <gurth@******.nl>

> According to Even, at 13:07 on 3 May 00, the word on the street was...
>
> > > What is good SR food to eat?
> >
> > Soyburgers. What could be more atmospheric?
>
>
>
> > What are Twinkies, anyway? I've never heard of it before.
>
> They're some American "food," which, unless I'm mistaken, is some kind of
> soggy cake-type stuff surrounded by white cream-type stuff (notice the
> accuracy of this description :) and a thin layer of chocolate.
>
> Or am I thinking of something else entirely here? And if I am, what was it
> that somebody gave me to eat during the SR tournament at GenCon last year?
>

That would be the chocolate covered twinkie. The regular twinkie doesn't
have the coating. BTW, in case you care, twinkie's are yellow, if you ever
see the original Ghostbuster movie, they use a twinkie to describe the level
of ghosts in NYC. Also, they are suppose to be spongy, not soggy.

My .02,
Mockingbird

Message no. 108 On Wed, 03 May 2000 17:18:05 GMT "Phil Smith"
<phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> The
> inhabiting
> power is limited to living bodys

Where does it say that?

> so unless one of the ally's forms
> is a bike
> ... now there's an idea!

If I knew where the logs from this discussion on RN a while back were,
I'd point you there. :)

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Message no. 109 > > They're some American "food," which, unless I'm
> mistaken, is some kind of
> > soggy cake-type stuff surrounded by white
> cream-type stuff (notice the
> > accuracy of this description :) and a thin layer
> of chocolate.
>
> Close, but it's actually a petroleum-based "cream"
> filling inside a kind of
> pound cake shell. Overall dimensions approx. 3x1.5
> inches.
>
> ---Dave ('s not here man)
> *who hates the damn things*

>From the description, Gurth, it sounds like someone
foisted an eclair on you - but you'd have those in the
Netherlands, wouldn't you? And eclairs are nice, so
long as they've cream instead of custard crap in them.

Btw, the Netherlands. Has anyone realised it sounds
like Gurth lives in the Underworld?

*Doc', who nearly died laughing reading the Twinkie
experiments data...*

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Message no. 110 According to Mockingbird, at 12:47 on 3 May 00, the word on the street
was...

> That would be the chocolate covered twinkie. The regular twinkie doesn't
> have the coating. BTW, in case you care, twinkie's are yellow, if you ever
> see the original Ghostbuster movie, they use a twinkie to describe the level
> of ghosts in NYC. Also, they are suppose to be spongy, not soggy.

Regardless of what I was describing, I only just managed to eat the whole
thing without finding something to spit it out in :)

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Message no. 111 According to Rand Ratinac, at 18:53 on 3 May 00, the word on the street
was...

> From the description, Gurth, it sounds like someone
> foisted an eclair on you - but you'd have those in the
> Netherlands, wouldn't you? And eclairs are nice, so
> long as they've cream instead of custard crap in them.

The thing (that's the only way I can describe it) I was given at GenCon
was not nice... :)

> Btw, the Netherlands. Has anyone realised it sounds
> like Gurth lives in the Underworld?

Actually, it's "nether" as in "low" -- "low lands," not
"under world" :)

Still, after my trip to the UK through the Channel Tunnel in 1996, which
went down all the way _both_ways_, I must have ended up in some kind of
underworld...

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Message no. 112 > From the description, Gurth, it sounds like someone
> foisted an eclair on you - but you'd have those in
> the
> Netherlands, wouldn't you? And eclairs are nice, so
> long as they've cream instead of custard crap in
> them.
>
> Btw, the Netherlands. Has anyone realised it sounds
> like Gurth lives in the Underworld?
>
> *Doc', who nearly died laughing reading the Twinkie
> experiments data...*
>
> ====> Doc'
> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of
> Tomorrow, aka Doc'-booner)

Oh no man, you've got it all wrong...the custard is
the best!
But he could be talking about the italian canolli...
If you get them made by a real italian bakery, they
are very good...

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Message no. 113 > > Btw, the Netherlands. Has anyone realised it
sounds like Gurth lives in the Underworld?
>
> Actually, it's "nether" as in "low" -- "low lands,"
not "under world" :)
>
> Still, after my trip to the UK through the Channel
Tunnel in 1996, which went down all the way
_both_ways_, I must have ended up in some kind of
underworld...
> Gurth@******.nl

*"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc' runs
away, giggling hysterically... *

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Message no. 114 >*"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc' runs
>away, giggling hysterically... *
>
>====>Doc'
>(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'-booner)

Doc: If I felt that I had the authority I would not hesitate to grant you
the Comedy Genius Of The SR List award (which I just invented):)

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Message no. 115 > *"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc' runs
> away, giggling hysterically... *

Sometimes you can't help but wish your country to be a
nuclear-missile-toting one, just so inhabitants of an imperialist swine
nation don't dare laugh at you.... as it is, we'll just have to flood
the American market with cheap cheese imports, thus triggering a
collapse of the dollar. ;)

Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt, Proud Inhabitant of the Nether
Regions

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> > *"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc' runs
> > away, giggling hysterically... *
>
> Sometimes you can't help but wish your country to be a
> nuclear-missile-toting one, just so inhabitants of an imperialist swine
> nation don't dare laugh at you.... as it is, we'll just have to flood
> the American market with cheap cheese imports, thus triggering a
> collapse of the dollar. ;)

Ahhhh... But Gurth has ICBC capability.
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Message no. 117 Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt wrote:
>
> > *"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc' runs
> > away, giggling hysterically... *
>
> Sometimes you can't help but wish your country to be a
> nuclear-missile-toting one, just so inhabitants of an imperialist swine
> nation don't dare laugh at you.... as it is, we'll just have to flood
> the American market with cheap cheese imports, thus triggering a
> collapse of the dollar. ;)

Hey now! IIRC, Doc' lives down under. Target him, not us.

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Message no. 118 > Hey now! IIRC, Doc' lives down under. Target him, not us.

Heh... he lives "Down Under" hehehe, hehe, heheh. Nevermind my
complaints, hehe *snigger*.

Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt, Proud Finder of Euphemistic
Meaning in Everyday Terms.

Message no. 119 On Sun, 07 May 2000 07:20:08 -0400 Iridios <iridios@*****.com> writes:
> Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt wrote:
> >
> > > *"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc' runs
> > > away, giggling hysterically... *
> >
> > Sometimes you can't help but wish your country to be a
> > nuclear-missile-toting one, just so inhabitants of an imperialist
> swine
> > nation don't dare laugh at you.... as it is, we'll just have to
> flood
> > the American market with cheap cheese imports, thus triggering a
> > collapse of the dollar. ;)
>
> Hey now! IIRC, Doc' lives down under. Target him, not us.
>

Oh, come on, let him rail, what can the Netherlands do?

Unless they have large catapults laden with cheese....
Oh, if they do, please, send some Edam down to Florida, please?
come on... be nice... :-)

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Message no. 120 > >*"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc'
runs away, giggling hysterically... *
> >
> >====> >Doc'
> >(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of
Tomorrow, aka Doc'-booner)
>
> Doc: If I felt that I had the authority I would not
hesitate to grant you the Comedy Genius Of The SR List
award (which I just invented):)
> Phil

Gee, thanks, Phil. :)

*Doc' unzips his pants. "I'd like to thank my
parents...and the academy...for believing in me...and
my surgeons for the marvellous work they did...*

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Message no. 121 > > > *"Crotchland! Gurth lives in Crotchland!!!" Doc'
runs away, giggling hysterically... *
> >
> > Sometimes you can't help but wish your country to
be a nuclear-missile-toting one, just so inhabitants
of an imperialist swine nation don't dare laugh at
you.... as it is, we'll just have to flood the
American market with cheap cheese imports, thus
triggering a collapse of the dollar. ;)
>
> Hey now! IIRC, Doc' lives down under. Target him,
not us.
> Iridios

*Doc' looks all innocent. "Hey, what did I do? Anyway,
you better not, Jan, or I'll sue." Doc' looks all sad.
"I don't LIKE stinky crotch-cheese."*

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Message no. 122 > > Hey now! IIRC, Doc' lives down under. Target him, not us.
> >
>
> Oh, come on, let him rail, what can the Netherlands do?

For starters, they could claim their colonies back. :-)

- Carsten (who very much would like Saint Croix back... It would really make
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Message no. 123 on 1/5/00 8:43 pm, Alfredo B Alves at dghost@****.com wrote:

> On Mon, 01 May 2000 20:04:55 +0100 Philip Smith
> <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
> <SNIP>
>> Quick age poll; I'm
>> seventeen, can
>> anyone top that?
>
> I hope you mean is anyone younger than that, sonny. :)

Yeah, okay, am I the youngster here? (why do I get the impression that I
have just managed to get myself into a long list of "are you sure this is
suitable for the kids.." gags)

Phil

PS Where did those armor rules you promised me get to old man:) ? Chances
are you sent them but I managed to inavertantly delete them; its certainly
not beyond my uncanny ability for destroying important files.

Also; Mr Oliver guy who e-mailed me individually; I have completely lost
your adress and I have made some additions to my armor rules; every fashion
rating drops by 1 level every 6 months (so tres chic becomes fine after a
year a la CC (the Armante bit gives that impression)). When someting with a
sub-average rating falls a level it becomes useful for only cleaning floors
and stuff.

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