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Message no. 1
From: Ted Cabeen secabeen@*****.com
Subject: I'm Baaaack, and Flechette Rounds
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:32:44 -0500
Well, it's good to be back. After being off of the list for a couple of
months, and not playing any shadowrun for a number of years, let me tell you
that it's good to be back.

Anyways, Here goes.
In SRIII, the rulebook states that flechette rounds are very effective
against unarmored targets, but are almost useless against those with armor.
For game mechanics, it says, Against unarmored targets, flechette rounds
increase their Damage Codes by one level. It then says that against armored
targets, you take the greater of double impact or ballistic. It also notes
that Dermal armor negates the Damage Level increase. My question is do
armored targets use the increased damage level from flechettes? I'd think
not, since it makes flechette rounds not really have a downside, since most
armor's impact is about 1/2 it's ballistic. Thoughts?

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Message no. 2
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: I'm Baaaack, and Flechette Rounds
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:01:32 -0700 (PDT)
> Well, it's good to be back. After being off of the list for a couple
of months, and not playing any shadowrun for a number of years, let me
tell you that it's good to be back.

As another recent returnee to the list, Ted, let me say, "Welcome
back."

> Anyways, Here goes. In SRIII, the rulebook states that flechette
rounds are very effective against unarmored targets, but are almost
useless against those with armor. For game mechanics, it says, Against
unarmored targets, flechette rounds increase their Damage Codes by one
level. It then says that against armored targets, you take the greater
of double impact or ballistic. It also notes that Dermal armor negates
the Damage Level increase. My question is do armored targets use the
increased damage level from flechettes? I'd think not, since it makes
flechette rounds not really have a downside, since most armor's impact
is about 1/2 it's ballistic.
> Ted Cabeen http://fnord.rh.uchicago.edu

Ted - look at the wording of your quote. Against UNARMOURED targets it
increases their damage codes. By definition, that means that if firing
on armoured targets, including targets with dermal armour, as
specifically noted, the damage is not increased. ALSO, there is the
ballistic or 2 x impact thing. You just have to think about the
wording. Just because it doesn't specifically state that the damage is
NOT increased against armoured targets doesn't mean that it is.

'kay?

*Doc' would compare the above to the fact that just because you aren't
specifically told not to stick your genitals on a hotplate doesn't mean
that you should - but that would be crass...*
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 3
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: I'm Baaaack, and Flechette Rounds
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:25:50 +0200
According to Ted Cabeen, at 19:32 on 20 Apr 99, the word on
the street was...

> In SRIII, the rulebook states that flechette rounds are very effective
> against unarmored targets, but are almost useless against those with armor.
> For game mechanics, it says, Against unarmored targets, flechette rounds
> increase their Damage Codes by one level. It then says that against armored
> targets, you take the greater of double impact or ballistic. It also notes
> that Dermal armor negates the Damage Level increase. My question is do
> armored targets use the increased damage level from flechettes? I'd think
> not, since it makes flechette rounds not really have a downside, since most
> armor's impact is about 1/2 it's ballistic. Thoughts?

Your answer is in this line: "Against unarmored targets, flechette rounds
increase their Damage Codes by one level." Targets with armor are,
clearly, not unarmored, so the Damage Level would not be increased.

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