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From:	William Szabo <AUWRS@*******.BITNET>
Subject:	I'm Back
Date:	Fri, 2 Jul 1993 10:28:53 -0700

Message no. 1 ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Sorry to use band width but I need to let some people know I am back on.
I also need a list of members of the PBEM's I am in since I no longer have them
in my dir. My old address was Axdmk... If I was in your PBEM would you please
make the necessary changes and send any further mail to Auwrs. Thanks.

Will Szabo

at

AUWRS@*******.Bitnet
or
AUWRS@*****.INRE.ASU.EDU

From:	will Szabo <AUWRS@*******.BITNET>
Subject:	I'm Back
Date:	Fri, 2 Jul 1993 10:36:54 -0700

Message no. 2 ----------------------------Original message----------------------------

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Sorry to use band width but I need to let some people know I am back on.
I also need a list of members of the PBEM's I am in since I no longer have them
in my dir. My old address was Axdmk... If I was in your PBEM would you please
make the necessary changes and send any further mail to Auwrs. Thanks.

Will Szabo

at

AUWRS@*******.Bitnet
or
AUWRS@*****.INRE.ASU.EDU

From:	Ahern T Stephan <maxim@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	I'm back
Date:	Tue, 4 Jan 1994 09:00:36 -0600

Message no. 3 Maybe nobody cares,but I'm back. Could I get the baisic rundown of the
topics that were brought up during december?

From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 4 Jan 1994 09:08:27 -0600

Message no. 4 On Tue, 4 Jan 1994, Ahern T Stephan wrote:

> Maybe nobody cares,but I'm back. Could I get the baisic rundown of the
> topics that were brought up during december?

Sex, drugs, Rock and Roll. You know, the usual. :-)

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From:	What ? <MCM@***.BRIGHTON.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 4 Jan 1994 15:56:00 GMT

Message no. 5 Rob said
>Sex, drugs and Rock 'n' Roll. The usual :-).

Shouldn't that have been Sex, GUNS, and Rock 'n' Roll ?

Hmmmm, just got hold of Celtic Double Cross. I haven't read my
Tir Na nOg book cover to cover yet, so does anyone know if Galic-Spetherial
is just a variant of Spetherial (ie has a couple of Irish terms chucked in)
or is a totally different language ?

Ideas and game mechanics anyone ?

-WHAT

From:	Phaeros Lostchilde <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 4 Jan 1994 11:58:14 -0600

Message no. 6 You misspelled the elven language.

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Steve Hilberg
Mudder and Shadowrun Player Extraordinaire!
See me on Armageddon (studsys.mscs.mu.edu 4444)
Or Mail me at shilberg@********.uni.uiuc.edu

From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 4 Jan 1994 12:13:43 -0600

Message no. 7 On Tue, 4 Jan 1994, Phaeros Lostchilde wrote:

> You misspelled the elven language.

Who cares?

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From:	"J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Wed, 5 Jan 1994 00:06:34 -0500

Message no. 8 On Tue, 4 Jan 1994, Phaeros Lostchilde wrote:

> You misspelled the elven language.
>

Um...er...well, first of, you didn't even _try_ to spell it.
Also, if everybody who misspelled things on this list was replied to like
that, our mailboxes would start spamming within a few hours.
In other words, pointing out things like that is extremely anal
retentive. Get a life.
Not a flame, so don't bother flaming back. Well, okay, it was a
flame. But still, don't bother flaming back. Its not worth the space.

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|| I don't want the world to change me" ||
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From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	I'm back
Date:	Wed, 24 Aug 1994 15:41:54 -0500

Message no. 9 I'm back. Vorlon died. More to come later (lab closing)

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From:	John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:	I'm back
Date:	Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:13:09 -0700

Message no. 10 Well, It certainly has been a long time. I _finally_ got back on the
list. It turns out that when the server sent my resubscription message,
the campus hub went down. When I tried to subscribe to the list again,
the 48 hour confirmation deadline went out before I could confirm (I
guess the server was really slow). Anyway, I'm back.

I also have a question. I know this may sound really stupid, but could
someone either tell me or point me to a source of the answer of this
question?

How does one resolve layered armor (e.g. when a character who is wearing
two pieces of armor, one with ballistic 2 and the other with ballistic 3,
and is shot with a weapon of power 6)?

Thanks,

John IV aka John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
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I also participate in S on M (Sadism on Metaphors). Above statement applies.

From:	"Thomas W. Craig" <Craigtw1@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Sun, 11 Dec 1994 16:16:48 -0500

Message no. 11 If I remember correctly, you halve the rating of the lower rated piece and
add it to the higher rated piece, round fractions down.
Tom Craig

From:	John IV <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:19:50 -0700

Message no. 12 Sounds reasonable enough, but what if you have three or four pieces of armor?
Hypothetically, of course.

John IV aka John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
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I also participate in S on M (Sadism on Metaphors). Above statement applies.

From:	The GREAT Cornholio <mruane@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Sun, 11 Dec 1994 18:23:01 -0700

Message no. 13 On Sun, 11 Dec 1994, John IV wrote:

> Sounds reasonable enough, but what if you have three or four pieces of armor?
> Hypothetically, of course.
Then you look like a tick about to pop.

But really, (now I'm trying to remember the rule) I think it goes that
something which is max armor is supllanted over any other armor. All
other armor is divided in two as per the rule.
I.e. Gerogio Armani-Sam is stompin' through Denver during winter and is
walking to a club. It's cold so he's wearing his long coat (4/2), armor
jacket underneath, armor clothing and form fitting (he's expecting a
moose to gore him or something...). His rating would be the (5/3) for
the jacket, then add .5 * the coat (2/1), .5 * the FF3 (2/1), .5* armor
clothing (1/0). His total armor would be (5+2+2+1=)10 ballistic and
(3+1+1+0=) 5 impact. Of course, he'd look silly, like a walking corn puff.

Also remember this is only time in SR when you do NOT get screwed with
fractions. It's round all fractions up time.

>
> John IV aka John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Also known as the Joke Bastard. Anyone who knows me well will know why.
> I also participate in S on M (Sadism on Metaphors). Above statement applies.
>
Mike TGC

From:	Gurth <gurth@***.NL>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 13 Dec 1994 09:49:09 +0100

Message no. 14 >Sounds reasonable enough, but what if you have three or four pieces of armor?
>Hypothetically, of course.

The actual rule is to add one-half the rating of the second-highest-rated
piece of armor to the highest-rated piece of armor. So, if you wear one set
of armor with Ballistic 6, one with Bal. 4 and one with Bal. 3, you have
Ballistic armor 8.

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From:	Fredrik Nyman <fredrik@*******.SWIP.NET>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Sun, 18 Dec 1994 18:17:38 -0100

Message no. 15 >Sounds reasonable enough, but what if you have three or four pieces of armor?
>Hypothetically, of course.

Hypothetically speaking, your character will then look more like a tin can
then a shadowrunner. If memory serves, the rules only permits advantage of
two layers of armour, that is, the full rating of the best piece of armour
plus half the rating of the second best (unless you choose otherwise
ofcourse ;). Anything else is just for the show. At least this is the rules
I'm using, and it work's just fine. Having more than two layers of armour
(two layers of clothing) would be clumsy, warm and very disadvantageous
concerning speed and movement in a quick and deadly fight, which you'll just
more than likely run into in a game like Shadowrun.

Natural armour and magical barriers is unaffected by any worn armor, adding
their full rating to the final armorvalue.>

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	I'M BACK!!!
Date:	Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:38:21 +0200

Message no. 16 Yup. It's true. I'm back at my own computer, ready to get involved in this
list again...

Thanks to Stefan, Martin, and Jani for putting up with me :)

Gurth@******.nl - Gurth@***.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
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From:	Brother Equine <equine@*****.PIC.NET>
Subject:	Re: I'M BACK!!!
Date:	Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:59:13 +0600

Message no. 17 >Yup. It's true. I'm back at my own computer, ready to get involved in this
>list again...
>
>Thanks to Stefan, Martin, and Jani for putting up with me :)
>

Welcome back sir! I hope you had a nice trip! You should of visited=
America.
Well it will be nice to see your wonderful remarks to all the conversations=

that are going on. :)

Ed

From:	Stefan Struck <struck@******.INFORMATIK.UNI-BONN.DE>
Subject:	Re: I'M BACK!!!
Date:	Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:53:26 +0200

Message no. 18 Gurth wrote:
>
> Yup. It's true. I'm back at my own computer, ready to get involved in this
> list again...
>
> Thanks to Stefan, Martin, and Jani for putting up with me :)
>
Yup, no problem. You're early, aren't you? I didn't expect you back 'till
the 1st of july. It's good to have you back 8)
bye,
Stefan
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From:	NIGHTFOX <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject:	I'm back
Date:	Wed, 16 Aug 1995 22:22:01 -0700

Message no. 19 Hi ya folks

I'm back from my summer Hiatus.

(runaway!!!!)

So - whats the topics?

I figure that we're probably on

Horrors
Cyber Ware
Karma cost to buy back essence (they mention it in CyberTechnologys - CT)
Cybermancy
Cybermancy and Horrors and Horror markings
Cybermancy and ED necromancers (todays cybermancers)
SR and ED and where their going.

Or something along those lines

Nightfox

From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:26:53 -0500

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On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, NIGHTFOX wrote:

> I'm back from my summer Hiatus.
> (runaway!!!!)

*gets a shotgun out for protection*

> So - whats the topics?
>
> I figure that we're probably on
>
> Horrors
> Cyber Ware
> Karma cost to buy back essence (they mention it in CyberTechnologys - CT)
> Cybermancy
> Cybermancy and Horrors and Horror markings
> Cybermancy and ED necromancers (todays cybermancers)
> SR and ED and where their going.

Actually, the current topics are:
New Races for Shadowrun (I broght the Sprite back :-)
Gender and Role Playing
Buying our own hard drive to replace Cerebus

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From:	Mark Steedman <RSMS@******.EEE.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:56:57 GMT

Message no. 21 > From: "Robert A. Hayden"

> On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, NIGHTFOX wrote:
>
> > I'm back from my summer Hiatus.
> > (runaway!!!!)
>
> *gets a shotgun out for protection*
>
> > So - whats the topics?
> >
> > I figure that we're probably on
> >
> > Horrors
seem to have got left fairly well alone, And p75 of cybertechnology
makes the big answer so obvious well.

> > Cyber Ware
> > Karma cost to buy back essence (they mention it in CyberTechnologys - CT)
I thought the comment was you are NOT allowed to do that.

> > Cybermancy
well, my comment is pretty much not usalbe by PC's

> > Cybermancy and Horrors and Horror markings
later is about what you deserve for messing about with the former.

> > Cybermancy and ED necromancers (todays cybermancers)
> > SR and ED and where their going.
>
> Actually, the current topics are:
> New Races for Shadowrun (I broght the Sprite back :-)
> Gender and Role Playing
> Buying our own hard drive to replace Cerebus
>
plus a pile of admin / off topic chat.
>

Mark

From:	Nurse Wratchet <Wratchet-RN@**.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:	I'm Back...
Date:	Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:53:01 -0700

Message no. 22 Hoi chummers,

I have returned (%like anyone knew I was missing%). My email, name, and
entire internet access has been changed (are not Universities
wonderful--grin--). If you need it, my new email address is in my sig.

So what has been happening? I just received the notice from JD about
Scientology and the net. Thanks for the info, I wish xs4all users the best.

Anything else I need to know before I join the fray, once again?

Thanks.
Enjoy.
Shalam.

Nurse Wratchet
aka "Brian A. Stewart"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Essence: It is a descending stream of pure activity which is the dynamic
force of the universe.
-Kabbalah (B.C.E.~1200-~700 A.C.E.)
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"Nurse Wratchet":Wratchet-RN@**.arizona.edu
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From:	The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.ac.uk>
Subject:	I'm back!
Date:	Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:43:01 +0000 (GMT)

Message no. 23 Hello again friends, this is just a quick message to say I am back from
Xmas break and am looking forward to the profound thoughts and ideas this
list will convey to me, well I at least expect a laugh :)

The Digital Mage : mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"Life is a choice, Death....an obligation."-Me
Shadowrun WWW site at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mn3rge/Shadowrun

From:	gilean@****.muscanet.com (Kurt Montgomery)
Subject:	I'm Back!!!
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:05:38 -0500

Message no. 24 Well! After being grounded from the internet for six weeks, then returning
to see that I had been kicked off of ShadowRN, I have finnaly managed to
convince majordomo to resubscribe me. I still have about 2000 messages to
read, so my posts might be in response to old, dead, threads. If this
happens, please ignore me.
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"Where a rat can go, two Kender will be." -Human Proverb
(Rat, Two, Kender, Will, and Human are all regestered
trademarks of T$R incorperated)

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From:	Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject:	I'm Back!
Date:	Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:56:18 -0700

Message no. 25 Hey Gang!

I'm back from two weeks of getting married and honeymooning.

I've got 1100+ messages to weed through and see if I've missed anything
terribly interesting. So I'll be trying to pick up on the current threads
where I find them.

Anything that I've missed that I should be aware of up front? Any heated
debates I might stumble into the crossfire of? Any threads that have
meandered off into some senseless direction I should just avoid? (As if the
ever happens here :o)

It's good to be home again, though the Bahamas were nice...

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

*********************************************
Poisoned Elves
http://www.netzone.com/~loki/
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From:	Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm Back!
Date:	Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:21:15 -0500

Message no. 26 >Hey Gang!
>
Hey Lokester, good to see ya back...:)

>I'm back from two weeks of getting married and honeymooning.
>
My condolences...:)

>I've got 1100+ messages to weed through and see if I've missed anything
>terribly interesting. So I'll be trying to pick up on the current threads
>where I find them.
>
Be glad teh lists were slow... Tinner's comp crashed a month ago for one
week, and he had almost 2000 messages from just that week...:)

>Anything that I've missed that I should be aware of up front? Any heated
>debates I might stumble into the crossfire of? Any threads that have
>meandered off into some senseless direction I should just avoid? (As if the
>ever happens here :o)
>
Ummm, avoid woodchucks... Somehow, as usual, this one is my fualt...

<sigh>

I really don't know how these things get out of hand like that...:)

>It's good to be home again, though the Bahamas were nice...
>
I bet... Congrats, dude...:)

-Bull-the-congratulating-decker-turned-GM

From:	GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject:	Re: I'm Back!
Date:	Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:22:49 -0800

Message no. 27 Loki wrote:
> I'm back from two weeks of getting married and honeymooning.
>

I'm Sorry..I will morn your passing....

Attention everyone..The wake for Loki will be held in Virtual Vegas.. ;)
--
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Lord, Grant Me The Serinity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serinity Prayer

From:	Rookie <rookie@*******.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm Back!
Date:	Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:50:58 -0700

Message no. 28 ----------
> From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: I'm Back!
> Date: Tuesday, November 05, 1996 12:22 PM
>
> Loki wrote:
> > I'm back from two weeks of getting married and honeymooning.
> >
>
> I'm Sorry..I will morn your passing....
>
> Attention everyone..The wake for Loki will be held in Virtual Vegas.. ;)

I can't make it I'm only 20....You have to be 21 for vegas right?

-Rookie

And when it comes the living will envy the Dead!

Rookie@*******.com
55464@**.ev.maricopa.edu
http://www.netzone.com/~rookie

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: I'm Back!
Date:	Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:07:31 +0100

Message no. 29 Loki said on 10:56/ 5 Nov 96...

> I'm back from two weeks of getting married and honeymooning.

Welcome back.

> I've got 1100+ messages to weed through and see if I've missed anything
> terribly interesting. So I'll be trying to pick up on the current threads
> where I find them.

So didn't take a laptop with you after all? :)

> Anything that I've missed that I should be aware of up front? Any heated
> debates I might stumble into the crossfire of? Any threads that have
> meandered off into some senseless direction I should just avoid? (As if the
> ever happens here :o)

PLEASE don't get involved in that damn woodf...CHuck thread...

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-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
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From:	Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm Back!
Date:	Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:59:03 -0700

Message no. 30 > Loki wrote:
> > I'm back from two weeks of getting married and honeymooning.
> >

Rejoice for we may Run once again!!!!!

Woo Hoo!

Caric-the-missin'-playin'-shadowrun-shaman

From:	Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: I'm Back!
Date:	Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:07:54 +0000

Message no. 31 |PLEASE don't get involved in that damn woodf...CHuck thread...

Don't worry Gurth....

I've beseached the Oracle for an answer to the question...

What is the best Woodchuckicide that will cause no harm to maillist
software, and where can I get some?....

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From:	Ray & Tamara Macey <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject:	I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:54:42 +1100

Message no. 32 I have absolutely no idea if any of you missed me or even know who I am to
notice that I've been gone, but suffice to say, that I'm back.

This time however, it's from home, not from my university account. What I
need to know is, am I sending any weird attachments or anything that's
going to set people off?

Anyway, bye for know,

Ray

From:	MC23 <mc23@****.NET>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:33:52 -0500

Message no. 33 Ray Macey wrote,
>This time however, it's from home, not from my university account. What I
>need to know is, am I sending any weird attachments or anything that's
>going to set people off?

Nothing attachments (weird or otherwise) received here.

Ancient cultures believed that names held great power, personal
names more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves,
they answered to another name, because if another discovered their real
name, it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
I am MC23

Message no. 34 no

From:	"Kevin P. Feathers" <Shd0wW0lf@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:11:39 -0500

From:	Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:54:44 -0500

Message no. 35 At 03:54 PM 1/21/97 +1100, you wrote:
>I have absolutely no idea if any of you missed me or even know who I am to
>notice that I've been gone, but suffice to say, that I'm back.
>
>This time however, it's from home, not from my university account. What I
>need to know is, am I sending any weird attachments or anything that's
>going to set people off?
>
>Anyway, bye for know,
>
> Ray
>
Hi Ray... Welcome back...

I got your message no probs... Anyone else have probs?

Bull
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From:	Ray & Tamara Macey <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:53:36 +1100

Message no. 36 > Hi Ray... Welcome back...
>
> I got your message no probs... Anyone else have probs?
>
> Bull

Cool. Good to know. Thanks.

From:	Mark McLaughlin <mmclaugh@*******.EENG.DCU.IE>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:06:50 -0800

Message no. 37 Ray & Tamara Macey wrote:
>
What I
> need to know is, am I sending any weird attachments or anything that's
> going to set people off?
>
> Anyway, bye for know,
>
> Ray

No.. seems OK to me.
(and dont worry I`m sure no-one remembers me either!!)

Mark McL

From:	Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:45:48 +0000

Message no. 38 |This time however, it's from home, not from my university account. What I
|need to know is, am I sending any weird attachments or anything that's
|going to set people off?

Well.... You are triggering MIMEs shownonascii routine, which means you're
sending *something* that isn't text....
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From:	Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:48:02 +0000

Message no. 39 |
|no
|

no? no what???
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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:57:25 +0100

Message no. 40 Spike said on 14:48/21 Jan 97...

> |
> |no
> |
>
> no? no what???

Maybe it's just a general "no"?

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From:	Ray & Tamara Macey <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:29:33 +1100

Message no. 41 > |This time however, it's from home, not from my university account. What
I
> |need to know is, am I sending any weird attachments or anything that's
> |going to set people off?
>
> Well.... You are triggering MIMEs shownonascii routine, which means
you're
> sending *something* that isn't text....

But is it a problem for anyone?

Ray.

From:	Calvin Hsieh <u2172778@*******.ACSU.UNSW.EDU.AU>
Subject:	I'm back.
Date:	Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:33:04 +1100

Message no. 42 Hey people,

I'm back. I noted that my mail account was corrupted somehow while I
left. I didn't bounce a tonne of mail back to the list did I?

Shaman

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In Neo-Arch Real Life: Shaman

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Kluver-Bucy Syndrome.
Occurs with the bilateral removal of the temporal lobe,
including amygdala.
Symptoms: Overattentiveness, hyperorality, psychic
blindness, hypersexuality, absense of emotional response.
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From:	Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back.
Date:	Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:28:39 -0600

Message no. 43 On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Calvin Hsieh wrote:

> Hey people,
>
> I'm back. I noted that my mail account was corrupted somehow while I
> left. I didn't bounce a tonne of mail back to the list did I?
>
> Shaman

So thats what happened!! I was getting twos and threes of some messages.
but not that many.

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From:	Calvin Hsieh <u2172778@*******.ACSU.UNSW.EDU.AU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back.
Date:	Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:50:38 +1100

Message no. 44 On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Czar Eggbert wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Calvin Hsieh wrote:
> > I'm back. I noted that my mail account was corrupted somehow while I
> > left. I didn't bounce a tonne of mail back to the list did I?
> >
> So thats what happened!! I was getting twos and threes of some messages.
> but not that many.

Actually, checking back on logs, I haven't been bouncing that long. If
I'm correct, my mailbox only became corrupt during the weekend. Any
bounces before then are not my fault!

Shaman

_________________________________________________________
In Real Life: Calvin Hsieh
In Neo-Arch Real Life: Shaman

Neurological problems 101:
Kluver-Bucy Syndrome.
Occurs with the bilateral removal of the temporal lobe,
including amygdala.
Symptoms: Overattentiveness, hyperorality, psychic
blindness, hypersexuality, absense of emotional response.
_________________________________________________________

From:	"M. Gotthard" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:	I'm back
Date:	Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:35:01 +1000

Message no. 45 Well, the summer holidays are over, and the sysadmin staff here at Uni have
de-archived all the accounts.

Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
You guys sure can spam. *grin*

I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back to
spam the list as usual.

Hope everyone has had a good few months.

Cheers.

Bleach

From:	L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:53:18 EST

Message no. 46 On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:35:01 +1000 "M. Gotthard"
<s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU> writes:
>Well, the summer holidays are over, and the sysadmin staff here at Uni
>have
>de-archived all the accounts.
>
>Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
>You guys sure can spam. *grin*

That's all?! When did you leave? We've had periods when that was only
about a week and a half's worth of mail...

>
>I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back to
>spam the list as usual.

Oh, yippee. As if we didn't already have Bull:)

>
>Hope everyone has had a good few months.
>
>Cheers.
>
>Bleach
>
Well, welcome back.

--
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let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
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From:	Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:17:10 +1100

Message no. 47 > Well, the summer holidays are over, and the sysadmin staff here at Uni have
> de-archived all the accounts.
>
> Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
> You guys sure can spam. *grin*

Oh dear. That means my Uni account will, too... :)

> I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back to
> spam the list as usual.

Aaaagh... everybody run! Now! While your accounts are still whole and
hearty!

(I hope you all realise that Marty here has had three months to think of
horrible questions and things to argue about... :) )

Lady Jestyr

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From:	"M. Gotthard" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:38:35 +1000

Message no. 48 > >Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
> >You guys sure can spam. *grin*
>
> That's all?! When did you leave? We've had periods when that was only
> about a week and a half's worth of mail...
>

Ummm, I've been looking at the date stamps on the mail, and it's pretty
much from the 13th of January onwards..... I've got no way of finding out
if I missed any.

I'm truly surprised the account didn't start bouncing after the 300th
message or so.

> >I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back to
> >spam the list as usual.
>
> Oh, yippee. As if we didn't already have Bull:)
>

I'm better than Bull *grin*... Just ask Lady Jestyr.

Oh, and BTW.... If I did miss any please don't tell me; I've still got
about 400 messages that I want to read.... the rest I've expunged.

Bleach

From:	L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:46:10 EST

Message no. 49 On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:38:35 +1000 "M. Gotthard"
<s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU> writes:
>> >Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the
>break?
>> >You guys sure can spam. *grin*
>>
>> That's all?! When did you leave? We've had periods when that was
>only
>> about a week and a half's worth of mail...
>>
>
>Ummm, I've been looking at the date stamps on the mail, and it's
>pretty
>much from the 13th of January onwards..... I've got no way of finding
>out
>if I missed any.

Hmmm...well, you maybe didn't. The list has been kinda slow lately (100
or fewer messages a day, I think), so you may be safe...However, since i
don't keep track, i don't really know:)

>
>I'm truly surprised the account didn't start bouncing after the 300th
>message or so.

I got to come back in September after Juno upgraded their software
without telling me, so that I could send out, but was unable to retrieve
any of my mail...after just over 1500 messages, the Juno mailbox crapped
out on me and I lost a couple weeks' worth of oh-so-valuable list traffic
(can you hear the sarcasm there?) I spent a couple weeks after I
re-installed Juno reading all the back mail in the account...

>
>
>> >I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back
>to
>> >spam the list as usual.
>>
>> Oh, yippee. As if we didn't already have Bull:)
>>
>
>I'm better than Bull *grin*... Just ask Lady Jestyr.

So I gather, though I don't remember your previous stay here being
that...odd. Maybe I'm just not paying enough attention:)

>
>
>Oh, and BTW.... If I did miss any please don't tell me; I've still got
>about 400 messages that I want to read.... the rest I've expunged.
>
>Bleach
>

Have fun, at least you've got filters (I don't-or at least I don't have
any that I know about)

--
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let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
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From:	Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject:	Re: I'm back
Date:	Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:13:40 -0500

Message no. 50 At 12:35 PM 2/17/97 +1000, M. Gotthard wrote these timeless words:
>Well, the summer holidays are over, and the sysadmin staff here at Uni have
>de-archived all the accounts.
>
>Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
>You guys sure can spam. *grin*
>
Hey now... It wasn't just me!!

<Bull realizes he wasn't being singled out, and slinks back to his corner>

>I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back to
>spam the list as usual.
>
Cool...:)

>Hope everyone has had a good few months.
>
Nahh... It's sucked...:)

BTW... You missed the return and death of the woodch----

>Cheers.
>
>Bleach
>
Bull-the-welcome-back-Ork
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Message no. 51 On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:35:01 +1000 "M. Gotthard" writes:
>Well, the summer holidays are over, and the sysadmin staff here at Uni
have
>de-archived all the accounts.

<grumble> ....summer holiday...<grumble, grumble>...still have a quarter
and a half left before _my_ summer holiday...<grumble, grumble, grumble>

>
>Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
>You guys sure can spam. *grin*

Oh...I guess your mailbox died fairly early on then...

>
>I'm currently doing a mighty expunge session, and then I'll be back to
>spam the list as usual.

[I think I'd just higlight the Inbox and click delete - make a nice clean
start]

Oh good! Some refreshing SPAM to break the overwhelming monotony of all
these heavy, and _completely_ on-topic I might add, Shadowrun threads....
:)

>
>Hope everyone has had a good few months.

No real complaints here.

>
>Cheers.
>Bleach
>

Welcome Back!

~Tim (who is hopping on Bull's welcome wagon)

Message no. 52 |I got to come back in September after Juno upgraded their software
|without telling me, so that I could send out, but was unable to retrieve
|any of my mail...after just over 1500 messages, the Juno mailbox crapped
|out on me and I lost a couple weeks' worth of oh-so-valuable list traffic
|(can you hear the sarcasm there?) I spent a couple weeks after I
|re-installed Juno reading all the back mail in the account...

I thought the general idea was to unsubb or set nomail if you were taking an
extended period away.....
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|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 53 >Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
>You guys sure can spam. *grin*

Which is why ya do the smart thing and get off the list before you
leave... *grin*

BTW, I'm back too, guys. Uni's just starting here again, as you know, so
expect more spam from our corner of the world! *grin*

Guardian

Message no. 54 On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:21:35 +0000 Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
writes:
>|I got to come back in September after Juno upgraded their software
>|without telling me, so that I could send out, but was unable to
>retrieve
>|any of my mail...after just over 1500 messages, the Juno mailbox
>crapped
>|out on me and I lost a couple weeks' worth of oh-so-valuable list
>traffic
>|(can you hear the sarcasm there?) I spent a couple weeks after I
>|re-installed Juno reading all the back mail in the account...
>
>I thought the general idea was to unsubb or set nomail if you were
>taking an
>extended period away.....

Would have, but I didn't have much choice at the time...(I think you have
to confirm unsub commands...besides, I would have missed all of that! :)

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Message no. 55 |>I thought the general idea was to unsubb or set nomail if you were
|>taking an
|>extended period away.....
|
|Would have, but I didn't have much choice at the time...(I think you have
|to confirm unsub commands...

Well.... You didn't with majordomo, but with listserv you do....
Set Nomail you don't though.....

|besides, I would have missed all of that! :)

That's true....
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|Andrew Halliwell | |
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|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 56 > >Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
> >You guys sure can spam. *grin*
>
> Which is why ya do the smart thing and get off the list before you
> leave... *grin*
>
> BTW, I'm back too, guys. Uni's just starting here again, as you know, so
> expect more spam from our corner of the world! *grin*

Oh god.

Now I have to stop talking about them all behind their backs. :)

Lady Jestyr

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http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1503/
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Message no. 57 > |I got to come back in September after Juno upgraded their software
> |without telling me, so that I could send out, but was unable to retrieve
> |any of my mail...after just over 1500 messages, the Juno mailbox crapped
> |out on me and I lost a couple weeks' worth of oh-so-valuable list traffic
> |(can you hear the sarcasm there?) I spent a couple weeks after I
> |re-installed Juno reading all the back mail in the account...
>
> I thought the general idea was to unsubb or set nomail if you were taking an
> extended period away.....

The general idea is not to lose your account at all; We have no choice
as the Bastard Operators archive all the accounts over summer, whether or
not you've staying at university.

You know, I haven't had a holiday longer than two weeks in over two years.

Aaarrghhh.

Bleach (Spam #1, and counting)

Message no. 58 > The general idea is not to lose your account at all; We have no choice
> as the Bastard Operators archive all the accounts over summer, whether or
> not you've staying at university.

No, they're not Bastard Operators. BOs are frighteningly competent and
complete sods. These guys are just incompetent and complete sods.

(joining the SPAM-fest)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 59 > > >Do you realise that I had 2,749 messages from the list over the break?
> > >You guys sure can spam. *grin*
> >
> > Which is why ya do the smart thing and get off the list before you
> > leave... *grin*
> >
> > BTW, I'm back too, guys. Uni's just starting here again, as you know, so
> > expect more spam from our corner of the world! *grin*
>
> Oh god.
>
> Now I have to stop talking about them all behind their backs. :)

Yeah, THAT'S gonna happen... :P

Guardian

Message no. 60 greetings fellow SR addicts.

And to start things off, a question on bioware.
Does Bio. effect a Phys. Ad.'s essence? or for that matter a Mages essence?
"Cry HAVOC!, and let slip the dogs of War."
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Message no. 61 Vagen wrote,
>And to start things off, a question on bioware.
>Does Bio. effect a Phys. Ad.'s essence? or for that matter a Mages essence?

Bioware does not affect any characters essesnce but it will reduce any
magician's magic rating by the body index of the piece. Bioware also adds
one half it's body index to the target number for magical healing. That
makes the cybered, biowared Sammie even that much harder to heal.

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Message no. 62 On Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:46:07 -0500 Vagen <vagen@*****.COM> writes:
>greetings fellow SR addicts.
>
>And to start things off, a question on bioware.
>Does Bio. effect a Phys. Ad.'s essence? or for that matter a Mages
>essence?

Officially, yes. Many groups use a house rule in which it only reduces
Magic Rating, rather than Essence (which would also effect a reduction in
Magic).

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Message no. 63 On 1 Mar 97 at 12:22, MC23 wrote:

> Vagen wrote,
> >And to start things off, a question on bioware.
> >Does Bio. effect a Phys. Ad.'s essence? or for that matter a Mages essence?
>
> Bioware does not affect any characters essesnce but it will reduce any
> magician's magic rating by the body index of the piece. Bioware also adds
> one half it's body index to the target number for magical healing. That
> makes the cybered, biowared Sammie even that much harder to heal.
Wrong. Check Shadowtech p. 4. You ae referring to a house rule.

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Message no. 64 |
|greetings fellow SR addicts.
|
|And to start things off, a question on bioware.
|Does Bio. effect a Phys. Ad.'s essence? or for that matter a Mages essence?

Of course it does....
It's in the shadowtech sourcebook....

It says something along the lines of "As magicians are more in tune with
their aura, bioware costs an equal number of points in essence as Body
Index".

Or words to that effect....

Page quote anyone?
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 65 Spike said on 1:35/ 3 Mar 97...

> |Does Bio. effect a Phys. Ad.'s essence? or for that matter a Mages essence?
>
> Of course it does....
> It's in the shadowtech sourcebook....
>
> It says something along the lines of "As magicians are more in tune with
> their aura, bioware costs an equal number of points in essence as Body
> Index".

However, many people change this rule and say it lowers the Magic
Attribute _as_if_ it costs Essence, but Essence is not actually lowered.
For example, a magician character with 5.3 Essence and .8 Body Index
would have Essence 5.3 and a Magic Rating of 5.3 - .8 = 4.5, rounded down
to 4.

> Page quote anyone?

Somewhere in the very beginning, page 5 or 6 or so (I'm too lazy to look
it up right now :)

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Message no. 66 I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaack!

I left the list for a few months because I was really busy but
it's nice to be back. Have been still running my campaigns, bought a few
new sourcebooks, and have a load of new questions.

Later,
Dust

Message no. 67 >Have a load of new questions.
Any of them about the 'trix? I could probably help out there, but other
areas are rather difficult for me. Been playin' deckers since VR2.0, and
until then didn't play SR.

Brother-1. Decker for hire.
>Visit Dot's Deck Technologies! Just north of the Sea-TAC!

Message no. 68 Dust <rogan@*******.BERGEN.ORG> said:

> I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaack!

Welcome back, chummski :)

:)
BulletShower (trying to get this friggin net work)

Message no. 69 It's me... Dust. You know the guy who was on here last spring. Nice to
hear from you all again.

By the way I picked the Shadowrun Companion and I think very highly of it.

Later,

Dust

Message no. 70 Hiya, I'm back. Give me a day or so to catch up, I missed about 4 days
worth of mail due to the fact that every time I opened a mail offline,
AOL crashed. So, now I have to root through the archives for any golden
nuggets. =)
Also, I'm going to ask again(because I keep misplacing the damned
thing), what's the URL for the various list FAQs? Every time I try to
find 'em I get nothing, either a File Not Found or no link. Thank'ee
folks!

Message no. 71 George H Metz said on 1:23/ 8 Sep 97...

> Also, I'm going to ask again(because I keep misplacing the damned
> thing), what's the URL for the various list FAQs? Every time I try to
> find 'em I get nothing, either a File Not Found or no link. Thank'ee
> folks!

For the NERPS FAQs, these should work:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/NERPS%20FAQ%20A.txt

and

http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/NERPS%20FAQ%20B.txt

They're case-sensitive, BTW.

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Message no. 72 On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:52:56 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>For the NERPS FAQs, these should work:
>
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/NERPS%20FAQ%20A.txt
>
>and
>
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/NERPS%20FAQ%20B.txt
>
>They're case-sensitive, BTW.

Yuppers, thanks Gurth. Found 'em last night when I was putzing around
and a light came on over my head and I thought, "Why not check the
Project Leader's page?" =)

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"WHICH CHEEK?!?!?!?"
-- Me, after getting hit in the butt with a chunk of door during an
explosion.

Message no. 73 On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 16:09:05 -0700 Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> writes:
>---George H Metz wrote:
>>
>> Also, I'm going to ask again(because I keep misplacing the damned
>> thing), what's the URL for the various list FAQs? Every time I try to
>> find 'em I get nothing, either a File Not Found or no link. Thank'ee
>> folks!
>
>I believe what you're looking for is now Adam's page:
>
>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6112/lists.html

Ahh, thank you, Loki-san. That's two drinks I owe you. =)

>The SRCard FAQ is on my page, as well as Dvixen's and Lady Jestyr's.

No need for that, it'll take a minor miracle to get me to play(they're
not as rare as you think=) ). I gave up on those after the 4th
incarnation of Magic: The Addiction. =)

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-- Me, after taking a chunk of door in my butt from an explosion...

Message no. 74 After nearly-3-month lack of access to my own account, I'm back
again!
Hey! It's great to read you all again.

Anyone could tell me what I've missed?

--
Monde, the happy-now Spanish GM

Message no. 75 In a message dated 97-10-03 08:18:36 EDT, you write:

> After nearly-3-month lack of access to my own account, I'm back
> again!
> Hey! It's great to read you all again.
>
> Anyone could tell me what I've missed?

Bull .. please bull-bot him again ... and one of the thwapping experts please
do your stuff ...

airwisp (Mike)
<<<[Beating the bad guys is the easy part, staying alive afterwards is the
hard part. You never remembered that they had friends also.]>>>

Message no. 76 |Bull .. please bull-bot him again ... and one of the thwapping experts please
|do your stuff ...

Why'd I want to thwap him...

Just tell him the truth...

You missed... Errrr... Not much apart from the odd slanging match between a
couple of people with too much time on their hands...
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Message no. 77 Jose Vicente Mondejar Brell once dared to write,

>After nearly-3-month lack of access to my own account, I'm back
>again!
>Hey! It's great to read you all again.
>
>Anyone could tell me what I've missed?

Heh, heh, heh...

Time to start forwarding the mail from the last three months. B>]#

just kidding, but it would be funny in a sinister kind of way.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"But we know evil is an exact science,
being carefully, correctly wrong!"
-Shriekback, Nemesis

I am MC23

Message no. 78 Spike once dared to write,

>You missed... Errrr... Not much apart from the odd slanging match between a
>couple of people with too much time on their hands...

I was even able to squeeze in a little time for that too. B>]#

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

I swear to tell
the Truth, the partial Truth, or something like the Truth.

I am MC23

Message no. 79 > |Bull .. please bull-bot him again ... and one of the thwapping experts please
> |do your stuff ...

[Holding his own breath, expecting The Carp]

> Why'd I want to thwap him...

[Pheeew, thanks :)]

> Just tell him the truth...
>
> You missed... Errrr... Not much apart from the odd slanging match between a
> couple of people with too much time on their hands...
Why do I have the feeling that I've seen this before? :)

Now, posting something On Topic: What are the new FASA products for
Shadowrun? I've lost my access to the web, too. Any news on that?

--
Monde, wondering...

Message no. 80 Hi everyone!

I'm back again.

<dodging flying tomatoes and ignoring shouts and buuhs>

BTW. I've changed e-mail address in case anyone mails me privately:

Carsten@**********.dk

- Carsten

Message no. 81 Hi all you happy people; It's been a good year and a half since I was on
the list. To sum up: I'm graduated, got a real job, got a house, spend all
of my money on house payments, and student loan payments. To sum up I'm as
poor now as I was when I was in school.

Also I'm using Outlook Express and I *think* that I've got it setup to send
just plain text without HTML hooey or any Winmail.dat bullshit. If I'm
wrong and I'm spewing Gatesian Crap at the list, let me know, and I'll make
sure that it doesn't happen again.

My Shadowrun web site is http://freeweb.pdq.net/wmashe/shadowrun.html come
check out my fiction section.

Also if anyone in the Houston Tx area wants to start a game IRL (I've got
enough PBeM's going), or has space in a game for me let me know. I can
either play or GM (hopefully do both).

Regards
Bright-Light (aka Bill)

Message no. 82 At 22:26 20/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi all you happy people; It's been a good year and a half since I was on
>the list.

That long? Wow.. Welcome back! :)

>To sum up: I'm graduated, got a real job, got a house, spend all
>of my money on house payments, and student loan payments. To sum up I'm as
>poor now as I was when I was in school.

One reason why I don't think I'm going to take further schooling :)

>Also I'm using Outlook Express and I *think* that I've got it setup to send
>just plain text without HTML hooey or any Winmail.dat bullshit. If I'm
>wrong and I'm spewing Gatesian Crap at the list, let me know, and I'll make
>sure that it doesn't happen again.

Looks fine to me :)

>Also if anyone in the Houston Tx area wants to start a game IRL (I've got
>enough PBeM's going), or has space in a game for me let me know. I can
>either play or GM (hopefully do both).

I have some friends who are moving back to that area this summer. I'll let
you know later... >:)

-Adam
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Message no. 83 > Hi all you happy people; It's been a good year and a half since I was on
> the list.

Welcome back..and congrats on your good fortune..

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The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
===============================================
Kind of a bummer. Gettin' your butt kicked by a dead guy.
- Lt Col McQueen
Understanding is a three edged sword. - Kosh
What is best in life?
To Crush Your Enemies,
To See Them Driven Before You,
To Hear The Lamentation Of Their Women. -Conan

Message no. 84 >>Also if anyone in the Houston Tx area wants to start a game IRL (I've got
>>enough PBeM's going), or has space in a game for me let me know. I can
>>either play or GM (hopefully do both).
>
>I have some friends who are moving back to that area this summer. I'll let
>you know later... >:)
>
>-Adam
>-

Cool I hope they bring their F##%@ gas masks (or pray for rain in Mexico)

Message no. 85 ok, after a few days, a long trip, an upgrade, and getting rid of a
virus, I'm back.......now I just have to replace my mp3s.......

Pantherr

Message no. 86 On 28 May 98, at 9:48, Quentin Milton wrote:

> ok, after a few days, a long trip, an upgrade, and getting rid of a
> virus, I'm back.......now I just have to replace my mp3s.......

Well, welcome back. Your just in time to get purged. The list is
being reset Saturday. So enjoy your couple of days!! :)

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Message no. 87 And verily, did Quentin Milton hastily scribble thusly...
|
|ok, after a few days, a long trip, an upgrade, and getting rid of a
|virus, I'm back.......now I just have to replace my mp3s.......

Back just in time for the list clean-up and mass unsubbing....
Bad timing there...

:)

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Message no. 88 Well, for those that care, I'm back.
Nothing says "welcome back" like a bounce and a "you are not
subscribed to this list" notice.
*rubs down the goose bumps*

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Message no. 89 And verily, did The Vagabond hastily scribble thusly...
|
| Well, for those that care, I'm back.
| Nothing says "welcome back" like a bounce and a "you are not
|subscribed to this list" notice.
| *rubs down the goose bumps*
|

Ahhh, you missed the list purge.
Mark shut down the list Sunday night/Monday morning (ish), unsubbed
everyone, resubbed a few, and the left everyone else to resub themselves.

(It was the only way he could get rid of all those dead invalid addresses)

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Message no. 90 Hiyas folks just to let you all know, I`m back from the
hospital and relative fine again.

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Message no. 91 Barbie wrote:
/
/ Hiyas folks just to let you all know, I`m back from the
/ hospital and relative fine again.

Welcome back Barbie :) We missed ya.

-David
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Message no. 92 On Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:20:07 +0100 Barbie <barbie@**********.COM> writes:
>Hiyas folks just to let you all know, I`m back from the
>hospital and relative fine again.
>
>--
>
>-Barbie

Yeah! /me quickens "Get Better" and "Stay Better" Spells on Barbie ;)

>---------------------------------------------------------------
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> --Christine Comaford PC Week 27/9/95

For warm fuzzy memories?

<SNIP Rest of Sig>

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Message no. 93 And verily, did Barbie hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Hiyas folks just to let you all know, I`m back from the
|hospital and relative fine again.

Welcome back...
Are you going to give us all the gory details?

:)
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Message no. 94 Well, after spending five days in Great Bend, Kansas, with grieving
in-laws, I'm back. I've had enough cold-cuts and casaroles to last me
for the rest of my life :p On the other hand I and my in-laws got to
know eachother better.

What's up with the ShadowRN T-shirt?

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Message no. 95 On 11 Jun 98, at 10:05, David Buehrer wrote:

> Well, after spending five days in Great Bend, Kansas, with grieving
> in-laws, I'm back. I've had enough cold-cuts and casaroles to last me for
> the rest of my life :p On the other hand I and my in-laws got to know
> eachother better.

:)
Welcome back!

> What's up with the ShadowRN T-shirt?

Voting continues. Tomorrow is the voting deadline, so for those of
you that haven't voted yet, hit:

www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/6990/rntshirt.html

Question for the list:
When the voting is complete, do you just want me to announce the
winner, or do you want me to post a tally of the results?

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Message no. 96 Drekhead wrote:
>Question for the list:
>When the voting is complete, do you just want me to announce the
>winner, or do you want me to post a tally of the results?

Call me masochistic, but I'd like to see the tally... :-)

James Ojaste

Message no. 97 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:22:49 -0400 Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET> writes:
>On 11 Jun 98, at 10:05, David Buehrer wrote:
<SNIP>
>> What's up with the ShadowRN T-shirt?
>
>Voting continues. Tomorrow is the voting deadline, so for those of
>you that haven't voted yet, hit:
>
>www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/6990/rntshirt.html
>
>Question for the list:
>When the voting is complete, do you just want me to announce the
>winner, or do you want me to post a tally of the results?
>
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<SNIP Most of Sig>

It may be a good Idea to list the submissions in order of the number of
votes they received without saying how many each received :)

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Message no. 98 At 10:05 AM 6/11/98 -0600, David Buehrer wrote these timeless words:
>Well, after spending five days in Great Bend, Kansas, with grieving
>in-laws, I'm back. I've had enough cold-cuts and casaroles to last me
>for the rest of my life :p On the other hand I and my in-laws got to
>know eachother better.
>
Welcome back, David... I just came back myself :]

It feels realloy good to be back...

<Bull happydances around the room again, happy to have a working computer
again :)>

Bull
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Message no. 99 In a message dated 6/12/98 2:14:01 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
chaos@*****.COM writes:

> <Bull happydances around the room again, happy to have a working computer
> again :)>
>
So I suppose this means that Bull doesn't want to know what Mike is
considering putting together here???

Let's just say his plans will definitely -EXCEED- what I did back in
January...

-K

Message no. 100 At 03:21 AM 6/13/98 EDT, K is the Symbol wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 6/12/98 2:14:01 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>chaos@*****.COM writes:
>
>> <Bull happydances around the room again, happy to have a working computer
>> again :)>
>>
>So I suppose this means that Bull doesn't want to know what Mike is
>considering putting together here???
>
>Let's just say his plans will definitely -EXCEED- what I did back in
>January...
>
:P

Computer parts and donations are accepted :]

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Message no. 101 >
> Re: I'm back :) (Bull , Fri 2:15)

> Not invincible? damn straight, they're DEAD in your game ... that kind of
> house rule is going to push the players towards instant duration spells
> like combat and healing spells are screwed ... no mage can resist the
> drain from a decent healing spell for a serious or deadly wound ... and
> most won't be able to heal a moderate wound either ... what do you have
> against mages?

HUH? a force 5 spell (maybe with fetish orexclusive requirements) will
dothejob quite nicely. Resiting even 2D is not THAT hard, and 2M is
trivial. I'm not saying drain SHOULD be continually resited- just that
it CAN be, especially with centering. And its an interesting way to tie
up magic pool for sustaining spells.
Geesh, Bull, what kinda anemic mages you got running round, anyhow? :)
-Mongoose

Message no. 102 Mongoose wrote:
>I'm not saying drain SHOULD be continually resited- just that
>it CAN be, especially with centering. And its an interesting way to tie
>up magic pool for sustaining spells.

Another, equally well, way to tie up magic pool is to say any pool dice spent
on casting a sustained spell isn't refreshed until that spell is dropped.

(Actually that doesn't sound too stupid...).

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Message no. 103 On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:02:41 -0500 wafflemiester
<evamarie@**********.net> writes:
>> Re: I'm back :) (Bull , Fri 2:15)
>> Not invincible? damn straight, they're DEAD in your game ... that kind
of
>> house rule is going to push the players towards instant duration
spells
>> like combat and healing spells are screwed ... no mage can resist the
>> drain from a decent healing spell for a serious or deadly wound ...
and
>> most won't be able to heal a moderate wound either ... what do you
have
>> against mages?

> HUH? a force 5 spell (maybe with fetish orexclusive
requirements) will
>dothejob quite nicely. Resiting even 2D is not THAT hard, and 2M is
>trivial. I'm not saying drain SHOULD be continually resited- just that
>it CAN be, especially with centering. And its an interesting way to tie
>up magic pool for sustaining spells.
> Geesh, Bull, what kinda anemic mages you got running round,
anyhow? :)
>-Mongoose

Bull didn't say that. I did. and remember that the T# penalties from
previous actions make resisting drain a little bit harder and fetish and
exclusive spells shouldn't, IMO, be the standard in a game but rather
what /some/ mages use with /some/ spells to give their magic a boost.
And remember that some spells like healing need to be sustained in order
to have any effect ...

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Message no. 104 > Re: I'm back :) (Alfredo B Alves , Sat 18:26)
>
> On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:02:41 -0500 wafflemiester
> <evamarie@**********.net> writes:
> >> Re: I'm back :) (Bull , Fri 2:15)
> >> Not invincible? damn straight, they're DEAD in your game ... that kind
> of
> >> house rule is going to push the players towards instant duration
> spells
> >> like combat and healing spells are screwed ... no mage can resist the
> >> drain from a decent healing spell for a serious or deadly wound ...
> and
> >> most won't be able to heal a moderate wound either ... what do you
> have
> >> against mages?
>
> > HUH? a force 5 spell (maybe with fetish orexclusive
> requirements) will
> >dothejob quite nicely. Resiting even 2D is not THAT hard, and 2M is
> >trivial. I'm not saying drain SHOULD be continually resited- just that
> >it CAN be, especially with centering. And its an interesting way to tie
> >up magic pool for sustaining spells.
> > Geesh, Bull, what kinda anemic mages you got running round,
> anyhow? :)
> >-Mongoose
>
> Bull didn't say that. I did. and remember that the T# penalties from
> previous actions make resisting drain a little bit harder

Drain Resistance Test, p 132: "No target modifiers apply to this
test."
(Its a damage resitance test- you don't bump up the power of weapons
against mages sutaing spells, do you?)

> and fetish and
> exclusive spells shouldn't, IMO, be the standard in a game but rather
> what /some/ mages use with /some/ spells to give their magic a boost.
> And remember that some spells like healing need to be sustained in order
> to have any effect ...

I'm rememebring all that - a force 5 UNMODIFIED Heal spell can still be
very effective. And its one of the more common spells to use fetishes
for, I'd say, based off "historic" magic. Its also a spell that can and
should beused when you are not distracted, so its commonly
exclusive.I'll admit, thosemodsare fairly common in our game- its more
like, do you think you need the BASE version for some reason? Quite
often you do, but if you don't, why not take the bonus force / save some
karma / reduce the drain?

> D.Ghost

-Mongoose

Sorry about the quote confusion- this one attribed properly (at least,
the signature seems to match the sender). I don't get it.

Message no. 105 <<snip all of the above>>
**parentheses added to specify relevant part of paragraph**
| Bull didn't say that. I did. and remember that the
(((T# penalties from previous actions make resisting drain a little bit
harder)))
| and fetish and
| exclusive spells shouldn't, IMO, be the standard in a game but rather
| what /some/ mages use with /some/ spells to give their magic a boost.
| And remember that some spells like healing need to be sustained in order
| to have any effect ...
|
| D.Ghost
| (aka Pixel, Tantrum, and RuPixel)
| "Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone"

hey alfredo...
sorry to tell ya but when resisting drain, NO target modifiers apply,
including injury modifiers (which never apply to things like resisting
damage or drain)...see the section on resisting drain in the spell casting
explanation part of the BBB.

Message no. 106 > >I'm not saying drain SHOULD be continually resited- just that
> >it CAN be, especially with centering. And its an interesting way to ti=
e
> >up magic pool for sustaining spells.
>
> Another, equally well, way to tie up magic pool is to say any pool dice =
spent
> on casting a sustained spell isn't refreshed until that spell is dropped=
.
>
> (Actually that doesn't sound too stupid...).

It seems logical but a bit harsh perhaps... (it must be the first
time and perhaps the last I write something like this so remember
it... :)
I use something similar with karma pool. If a mage uses karma pool on
the casting of a spell in a spell lock or a quickening, the spent
karma pool is imprisonned into the lock and can only be recovered
when the lock is broken.
I don't know what I would do if the lock was broken while the mage is
in an astral quest... Since none of my players ever had this idea. :)

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Message no. 107 If anyone cares (and I'm sure that there must be _someone_), I'm back. My
week and a bit off were very relaxing, thank you. :)

So, what's the latest flame war going on?

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Message no. 108 On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:38:36 +1000 Robert Watkins
<robert.watkins@******.COM> writes:
>If anyone cares (and I'm sure that there must be _someone_), I'm back.

Nope. No one cares. <j/k> ;) Welcome Back. :)

>My week and a bit off were very relaxing, thank you. :)
>
>So, what's the latest flame war going on?
>
>--
>.sig deleted to conserve electrons. robert.watkins@******.com

I think you just missed the revival of the w**dch*ck ...

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, and RuPixel)
"Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone"

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Message no. 109 Alfredo B Alves writes:
> I think you just missed the revival of the w**dch*ck ...

Dwat! I'll just have to trawl through the logs, then... :)

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Message no. 110 At 09:38 AM 7/13/98 +1000, Robert Watkins wrote these timeless words:
>If anyone cares (and I'm sure that there must be _someone_), I'm back. My
>week and a bit off were very relaxing, thank you. :)
>
>So, what's the latest flame war going on?
>
Hehe...

Welcome back...

Seems there was a Woodychucking thread that popped up while *I* was gone at
Origins... Plus, just enough SR3 info was revealed to drive everyone batty :]

Bull
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and play tether ball all day!"
-- A really weird scene from Trinity, the 3 AM version

Message no. 111 Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
miss much?

(Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)

Lady Jestyr

- I'm in touch with my Inner Klingon... -
| Elle Holmes | jestyr@**********.com | http://jestyr.home.ml.org |
| Shadowrun Webring Ringmaster | GeoCities Leader | RPGA Reviewer |

Message no. 112 On 25 Jul 98, at 1:25, Lady Jestyr wrote:

> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> miss much?

Welcome back! Hope you are doing well.

> (Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
> broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)

Well, maybe next year. :)

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Message no. 113 In a message dated 98-07-24 11:36:08 EDT, you write:

> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> miss much?

Groovy. Welcome back, Lady J.

Nexx

Message no. 114 And verily, did Lady Jestyr hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
|online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
|miss much?

'Friad so...
How're you feeling?

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Message no. 115 Lady Jestyr wrote:
>Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
>online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
>miss much?

Welcome back! No, you didn't miss much - Bull has been pretty quiet of
late, so I've only got around 1100 messages left to read. The big
topic of late has been cybersex - one of the longest threads I've seen.
;-) That about brings you up to date...

James Ojaste

Message no. 116 > Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> miss much?
>
> (Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
> broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)

Good to have you back... when are you going to start digging into the SR
Webring aprovals again?

Message no. 117 Lady Jestyr wrote:
>
> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> miss much?

Welcome back! I don't think you missed much (of great import:)

> (Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
> broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)

Well, hopefully, you'll be healed up for next year, then?

--
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Message no. 118 On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Lady Jestyr wrote:
> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last!

YAAAAA!!!!!! Good to 'see' you back Lady J.

> Did I miss much?

Hmmm, SR3 teasers and rants, the woodchuck thread, the Chuch of boB, the
ongoing Cybersex thread, the flying tank thread, bul actualy being on
topic, bull being off topic, everying else being off topic. I would say
it was just the usual mayhem for the list so you didnt miss much.

> (Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
> broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)

NEXT YEAR! Even if we have to all fly down there and drag you kicking and
screaming. :)

Thomas Price
aka The Bookworm
thomas.m.price@*******.edu
tmprice@***********.com

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> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> miss much?

Well, that depends. If you mean on the list, just the usual, with a
bit more SR3 stuff. If you mean IRC and/or ppl IRL, there's been a
bit happening. For me and one or two others, at least

> (Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
> broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)

Yeah, too bad about that. Seems like you've been having a really
bad year. Well, you can at least take solace in the fact that you're
not the only one who can't make GenCon this year. ;)

Pantherr

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Message no. 120 Lady Jestyr wrote:
>
> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> miss much?
>

YEHAAAAA!!!!!! Lady J is back!!!!

can't keep a good Aussie down for long!!!!!

Hey, Lady J, How's it's it feel to live on a One Nation
Paradise (almost)

Hangfire

Message no. 121 In a message dated 98-07-24 12:07:36 EDT, Lady J writes:

> > Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
> > online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
> > miss much?

Well, you did miss the whole "Cyber-Genitals" thread.

But it's probably better that way.....

Mgkelly

Message no. 122 >> Did I miss much?
>
>Well, you did miss the whole "Cyber-Genitals" thread.
>
>But it's probably better that way.....

I just know I'll regret this, but...cybergenitals? Want to clue a newbie
in? Or is it worth the effort/bandwidth?

Message no. 123 At 10:07 AM 7/25/98 , you wrote:
>Lady Jestyr wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys... just thought I`d let you know that I`m finally back home and
>> online. Thank god... the Internet drought is over for me at last! Did I
>> miss much?
>>
>
>YEHAAAAA!!!!!! Lady J is back!!!!

Welcome back.

>can't keep a good Aussie down for long!!!!!

Don't I know it mate :)

>Hey, Lady J, How's it's it feel to live on a One Nation
>Paradise (almost)

Living in Queensland myself I can certainly say it's like
about how an ork might feel living in a Humanis run state.
The parties that lost alot of their votes to Redneck Nation
are talking about taking their right wing policies even further
to the right to try and win back the lost masses of ignorance.

To put a Shadowrun twist on this is Humanis a legal political
party or a banned organisation in your game? It could be
scary if they were a legally recognised politcal party. I
personally don't have any source material on them and
was wondering if there was ever anything printed.

Cheers,
Tim Burke
Brisbane, Australia

President
ConJure 98
"Summoning all gamers..."
Oct 10-11th 1998
Moreton Institute of TAFE
1030 Cavendish Rd Upper Mt Gravatt.

Message no. 124 At 23:32 24/07/98 -0500, you wrote:

>I just know I'll regret this, but...cybergenitals? Want to clue a newbie
>in? Or is it worth the effort/bandwidth?

In a word, no. When it related to SR it was okay. When it dealt mainly with
anal stimulation and penile piercing, it could have been better served in
private mail or one of the many newsgroups devoted to those practices.

-Adam J
http://www.interware.it/users/adamj \ fro@***.ab.ca \ ICQ# 2350330

Message no. 125 >>Want to clue a newbie
>>in? Or is it worth the effort/bandwidth?
>
>In a word, no.

Good enough answer for me; thanks for taking the time. I somehow figured it
would be a waste of time and effort, but you never know until you ask.

Message no. 126 Tim Burke wrote:
>

> >Hey, Lady J, How's it's it feel to live on a One Nation
> >Paradise (almost)
>
> Living in Queensland myself I can certainly say it's like
> about how an ork might feel living in a Humanis run state.
> The parties that lost alot of their votes to Redneck Nation
> are talking about taking their right wing policies even further
> to the right to try and win back the lost masses of ignorance.

New tourisr slogans

Come to Sunny, beautiful Queensland, where are the racist
bigotted morons love to live

> To put a Shadowrun twist on this is Humanis a legal political
> party or a banned organisation in your game? It could be
> scary if they were a legally recognised politcal party. I
> personally don't have any source material on them and
> was wondering if there was ever anything printed.

In my game the Humanis Policclub is a legal political party.
However, they have problems in that Alamos 2000 is
outlawed. makes for a lot of fun, considering most of my
players are non-human

>
> Cheers,
> Tim Burke
> Brisbane, Australia

Cheers ya self, mate

Hangfire

Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Message no. 127 The Bookworm said on 14:12/24 Jul 98,...

> > (Guess I won`t be making it to Gen Con this year either, not with a
> > broken leg and worse... pity, really. *pout*)
>
> NEXT YEAR! Even if we have to all fly down there and drag you kicking and
> screaming. :)

Bull is just a practice run to see if we have what it takes to get
Lady J to Milwaukee :)

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Message no. 128 Hello All! Well i made it through another GenCon and for the
first time ever actualy played a RP even there (All the preety miniature
games were to attractive in the past:)). It was a blast seeing a lot of
you and we missed those of you that couldnt make it. SR3 looks good, I
still haven gotten enough sleep, and i will make a report on the con after
i wade through the 547 messages in my inbox.

Thomas Price
aka The Bookworm
thomas.m.price@*******.edu
tmprice@***********.com

Message no. 129 Once upon a time, The Bookworm wrote;

> Hello All! Well i made it through another GenCon...
<snip>
>...and we missed those of you that couldnt make it.

Yeah, right

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"Boy, I'm in a bad mood today! Everyone had better steer clear of me! I
hate EVERYBODY! As far as I'm concerned, everyone on the planet can just
drop dead. People are scum.
.....
WELL-L-L? DOESN'T ANYONE WANT TO CHEER ME UP?!?"
-Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
I am MC23

Message no. 130 In a message dated 8/10/1998 9:19:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
mc23@**********.COM writes:

> > Hello All! Well i made it through another GenCon...
> <snip>
> >...and we missed those of you that couldnt make it.
>
> Yeah, right
>
Well actually, we(they) did. And most of them missed you the most MC ... BTW,
your "Friend" never did show up or raise his head to pick up your shirt. I
was nice, and never told anyone whom you are. I have also find the
misinformation campaign with Dvixen absolutely laughable.

Now you are going to have to come up with a way for the shirt to reach you, as
I didn't resell it too anyone while I was there.

For that matter, Scott Spencer, -YOU- never showed up either, and need to get
in touch with me as well.

-K

Message no. 131 Once upon a time, K is the Symbol wrote;

>Well actually, we(they) did. And most of them missed you the most MC ...
>BTW,
>your "Friend" never did show up or raise his head to pick up your shirt.

He did get me _A Shadowrun_ shirt, just not _the ShadowRN_ shirt.
While hoping some one at the FASA booth could point him in the right
direction they just gave up and gave him one of their Shadowrun shirts.
Thinking he's fulfilled his programming he considered his quest ended.

>I was nice, and never told anyone whom you are. I have also find the
>misinformation campaign with Dvixen absolutely laughable.

So you are that trusting?

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
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Message no. 132 In a message dated 8/10/1998 1:06:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
mc23@**********.COM writes:

> >I was nice, and never told anyone whom you are. I have also find the
> >misinformation campaign with Dvixen absolutely laughable.
>
> So you are that trusting?
In a way yes, as when combined with the statement of "it's sound so cool when
you say it", I am at least satiated.

BUT, what to do about the shirt please?

-K

Message no. 133 Once upon a time, K is the Symbol wrote;

>BUT, what to do about the shirt please?

Find another friend to mail in a check for me to cover shipping and use
his address.

B>]#

I am MC23
"Collect the whole set!"

Message no. 134 Hey there,

It's Dust and I haven't been on the list for the entire summer. Glad to
be back. I hope a few people still recognize me. I must say I'm eager to
hear what everyone has to say about SR3, personally I think it kicks major
ass. Anyhow, just sending out this general greeting to oldies and newbies
alike.

Lates,

Dust

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Message no. 135 Hi everybody,

Ah, it's good to be back after something like 4-5 months.

Now, at the risk of being TWARPED:

Where did the Shadowrun Archive move to?

(ducking for cover behind old dumpsters...)

- Carsten

<EGM>

Message no. 136 For the mere cost of a Thaum, Carsten Gehling wrote:
/
/ Hi everybody,
/
/ Ah, it's good to be back after something like 4-5 months.

Welcome back!

/ Now, at the risk of being TWARPED:
/
/ Where did the Shadowrun Archive move to?

It's being worked on and should be open at it's new location within a
few weeks (according to Adam J.).

-David
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Message no. 137 And verily, did Carsten Gehling hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Hi everybody,
|
|Ah, it's good to be back after something like 4-5 months.
|
|Now, at the risk of being TWARPED:

Twarped? That's a new one.
We only THWAP people here.....

|Where did the Shadowrun Archive move to?
|
|(ducking for cover behind old dumpsters...)

Dumpsters are no defence against Carp. Gurths Stairs, yes. The elders
resort, definately, but dumpsters????? Nahhhhh...
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Message no. 138 In a message dated 10/6/98 8:31:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
alvion@****.UNI2.DK writes:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Ah, it's good to be back after something like 4-5 months.

Welcome back to the Collective.

> Now, at the risk of being TWARPED:
>
> Where did the Shadowrun Archive move to?

It is currently down.

> (ducking for cover behind old dumpsters...)

(Moving the dumpster) Lower your shields, resistance is futile, prepare to be
assimilated.

-Herc
------ The Best Mechanic you can ever have.

Message no. 139 A Halliwell wrote:

> Twarped? That's a new one.
> We only THWAP people here.....

Sorry, I'm a bit rusty - won't happen again...
>
> |Where did the Shadowrun Archive move to?
> |
> |(ducking for cover behind old dumpsters...)
>
> Dumpsters are no defence against Carp. Gurths Stairs, yes. The elders
> resort, definately, but dumpsters????? Nahhhhh...

Gurths Stairs? Ahh, it's to see that nothing's changed. :-)))

- Carsten

<EGM>

Message no. 140 HI all. I've been missing for a few years while I worked on a master's
degree. Just wanted to say hi again now that I'm back. I kept wondering
why sending mail to listproc@*****.itribe.net was failing to get me
subscribed :)

Anyway - I'm moving to Fayetteville, NC in the next couple of weeks and
was wondering if there are any list members who are playing, or know of
any players, down there. Let me know, please!

-Frums (or the Entity Formerly Known as Skrub)

Message no. 141 Hi all just a quick note I'm back I cant see letting an inconsiderate well
you get the feeling drive me away from something I enjoy. See ya all
around.

Message no. 142 Bahamut wrote:
> Hi all just a quick note I'm back I cant see letting an
> inconsiderate well
> you get the feeling drive me away from something I enjoy. See ya all
> around.

Good advice for all of us. Welcome back!

;)

Smilin' Jack

Message no. 143 After a long interruption of email service I am back in the world.

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Message no. 144 Wildfire wrote:

> aborti

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Message no. 147 It's from the "endeNue" tour. At least, he got it at the concert, on
12/19/98 (I saved my ticket stub and put it in the jewel case of the CD I
bought). Rob (or "Sprite" to his friends) doesn't have any of their albums
(else I would borrow them, as many of mine have been STOLEN). I
think he'd heard Tabula Rasa and some other stuff- theres a few songs that
actually get played at clubs here, and his roomate had that a

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Message no. 149 I'm back from vacation :) And fantastic vacation it was. Disney World
Rocks! And words can't even begin to describe the cruise on the Disney
Wonder cruise ship. I should have some pictures up on my website next
week. In lieu of those, you can check out a picture of my face on a
mountain lion's body that I made while I was at Epcot. Yes it's cheesy,
but good for a laugh ;)

http://disney01.photonet.com/cgi-pv/images.pl/DI01PE3NA7ENH/2.jpg

Anyway, it's good to be back home. What'd I miss? :)

To Life,
-Graht
http://www.users.uswest.net/~abaker3
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"Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday ... and all is well."

Message no. 150 >From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org
>I'm back from vacation :) And fantastic vacation it was. Disney World
>Rocks! And words can't even begin to describe the cruise on the Disney
>Wonder cruise ship. I should have some pictures up on my website next
>week. In lieu of those, you can check out a picture of my face on a
>mountain lion's body that I made while I was at Epcot. Yes it's cheesy,
>but good for a laugh ;)
>
>http://disney01.photonet.com/cgi-pv/images.pl/DI01PE3NA7ENH/2.jpg

*Phil screams like a girl* Cheesy? Try disturbing! :)>

>Anyway, it's good to be back home. What'd I miss? :)

Al's back, I predicted his return (ask Gurth). We all talked about dominant
metahuman genes. I was right. We talked about other things which I can't
remember. My cat has had her injections so now she is allowed out. Now we
are talking about starting characters with experience.

Anyway, what about them woodchucks eh?

Phil

Let us assume we have a can opener.
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Message no. 151 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:38:18 GMT "Phil Smith"
<phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Anyway, what about them woodchucks eh?

I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
believe they left that out.

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Message no. 152 Alfredo B Alves wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:38:18 GMT "Phil Smith"
><phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
><SNIP>
> > Anyway, what about them woodchucks eh?
>
>I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
>mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
>believe they left that out.

That depends on whether the wood is normal wood, paranormal wood, or tiger
wood.

:)

To Life,
-Graht
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Message no. 153 >
> I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
> mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
> believe they left that out.
>
> --
> D. Ghost

*Blink* *Blink* I cannot believe that the question of doom was just asked on
this list AGAIN.

I vote for ritual torture and public execution.

Alareth

Message no. 154 >From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com>
> > Anyway, what about them woodchucks eh?
>
>I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
>mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
>believe they left that out.

Tell me about it. I had a whole run go to hell as the players tried to find
that out. Its a subject the GM has touble dealing with on the fly. And
guess what ? Its exactly the same deal with Enhanced Physical Attributes.

Of course if you want to be munchy you can always make yourself a mutant
woodchuck with an innate area efect levetate spell and chuck wood to your
hearts content.

Phil

Let usassume we have a can opener.
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Message no. 155 From: "Mark C Farrington" <alareth@*********.net>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: I'm Back :)

> >
> > I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
> > mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
> > believe they left that out.
> >
> > --
> > D. Ghost
>
> *Blink* *Blink* I cannot believe that the question of doom was just asked
on
> this list AGAIN.
>
> I vote for ritual torture and public execution.
>
> Alareth
>
>

I second the motion. Now, we are auctioning for the parts of the torturer
and executioner. Bids will start at .02 yen.

Ever lovable and always scrappy,
kawaii

Message no. 156 Mark C Farrington wrote:
> >
> > I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
> > mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
> > believe they left that out.
> >
> > --
> > D. Ghost
>
>*Blink* *Blink* I cannot believe that the question of doom was just asked on
>this list AGAIN.
>
>I vote for ritual torture and public execution.

I vote for public torture. ;)

To Life,
-Graht
http://www.users.uswest.net/~abaker3
--
"Warm nights, good food, kindred spirits....great life!"

Message no. 157 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 dbuehrer@******.carl.org wrote:

> >I vote for ritual torture and public execution.
>
> I vote for public torture. ;)

...and ritual execution.

Marc

Message no. 158 From: "Marc Renouf" <renouf@********.com>
Subject: RE: I'm Back :)

> > >I vote for ritual torture and public execution.
> >
> > I vote for public torture. ;)
>
> ...and ritual execution.

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Message no. 159 kawaii wrote:

> From: "Mark C Farrington" <alareth@*********.net>
> To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:21 PM
> Subject: RE: I'm Back :)
>
> > >
> > > I think there needs to be an addenum to Critters to determine how wood a
> > > mutant woodchuck with psychokinesis can chuck. Personally, I can't
> > > believe they left that out.
> > >
> > > --
> > > D. Ghost
> >
> > *Blink* *Blink* I cannot believe that the question of doom was just asked
> on
> > this list AGAIN.
> >
> > I vote for ritual torture and public execution.
> >
> > Alareth
> >
> >
>
> I second the motion. Now, we are auctioning for the parts of the torturer
> and executioner. Bids will start at .02 yen.
>

*Strago growls at kawaii, "I better get the part of torturer. Or else I'll just
practice on YOU. And who am I supposed to torture again?" Then he takes his
medication. "Oh, I bid 5 ¥"*

>
> Ever lovable and always scrappy,
> kawaii

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