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Message no. 1
From: nocturnal@*******.NET
Subject: In need of help...
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:58:56 -0600
Could anyone out there help me out? I decided to make a new character; a
snowboarder. How would I go by acquiring appropriate skills, and what
would a 2060 snowboard look like, run like, and cost? Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Nocturnal
Message no. 2
From: Keith Hedger <HEDGEEK@***.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:27:11 EST
Hey, all,

I'm new to the list, but I'll take a shot at nocturnal's question:'

>>Could anyone out there help me out? I decided to make a new character; a
snowboarder. How would I go by acquiring appropriate skills, and what
would a 2060 snowboard look like, run like, and cost? <<

Make snowboarding a reaction based skill (action skill for 3rd ed), and add
alpine skiing as a possible second. May have parachuting as well (people into
this kind of stuff tend to be adrenalin junkies, and would have several skills
that most consider "dangerous.") His combat skills would probably be fairly
low, except, maybe unarmed combat/ martial arts.

A 2060 snowboard would, perhaps, be a little thinner, to improve speed, and a
littl different shaped for optimum handling and steering. Its materials will
probably change drastically as the technologies applicable to 'boarding grow.
I'd give it a flat cost of 150 Yen for a bottom line board and up from there.

Hope that helps

Keith

Grimster smiles, checks his guns and watchs the snowboards show off.
Message no. 3
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:44:17 +1000
> >>Could anyone out there help me out? I decided to make a new
> character; a snowboarder. How would I go by acquiring appropriate
> skills, and what would a 2060 snowboard look like, run like, and cost?
> <<
>
> Make snowboarding a reaction based skill (action skill for 3rd ed)
>
Same as any other vehicle skill. I'd agree with this.


> and add alpine skiing as a possible second. May have parachuting as
> well (people into this kind of stuff tend to be adrenalin junkies, and
> would have several skills that most consider "dangerous.") His combat
> skills would probably be fairly low, except, maybe unarmed combat/
> martial arts.
>
Now that all depends on whether or not he's a snowtrooper or just a
snowboarder.


> A 2060 snowboard would, perhaps, be a little thinner, to improve
> speed, and a littl different shaped for optimum handling and steering.
> Its materials will probably change drastically as the technologies
> applicable to 'boarding grow. I'd give it a flat cost of 150 Yen for a
> bottom line board and up from there.
> Keith
>
Okay, here's an idea to get the brains churning.

How about snowboards (and skis) built with smart materials?

*Doc' coasts down the mountain as his smart snowboard steers him around
all the obstacles...or something like that...*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 4
From: Keith Hedger <HEDGEEK@***.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:50:20 EST
Doc,

I hadn't thought of that. Or the magical equivalent, an adept who's skills
are focused on snowboarding. As for the smart boards, they might be a little
risky, depending on how long they had been in use. The boards might be able
to take a really sharp angle, but will the boarder's knees and ankles do as
well?

Keith
Message no. 5
From: Starjammer <starjammer@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:02:19 -0500
At 04:44 PM 1/5/99 +1000, Ratinac, Rand (NSW) wrote:
>>
>> Make snowboarding a reaction based skill (action skill for 3rd ed)
>>
>Same as any other vehicle skill. I'd agree with this.

I dunno. I might make it a Quickness-based skill with an Athletics
default. It's not really like piloting a vehicle, you know.

>Okay, here's an idea to get the brains churning.
>
>How about snowboards (and skis) built with smart materials?

Well, you'd need to build in a power supply, sensors, and a microprocessor
to compute and implement the changes in the materials. I'm not saying it
couldn't be done, but it'd be pricey.

Of course, this reminds me of the sport I invented for SR: Turbosurfing!
Imagine surfboards with inboard impellers and optional rigger interfaces.
Of course, my grand-champion unlimited-class turbosurfer was a Hawai'ian
Dolphin shaman known as... The Big Kahuna. Made up for the lack of a VCR
by using sea spirits on his rides.

Starjammer | Una salus victus nullam sperare salutem.
starjammer@**********.com | "The one hope of the doomed is not to
Marietta, GA | hope for safety." --Virgil, The Aeneid
Message no. 6
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:08:39 +1000
> At 04:44 PM 1/5/99 +1000, Ratinac, Rand (NSW) wrote:
> >>
> >> Make snowboarding a reaction based skill (action skill for 3rd ed)
> >>
> >Same as any other vehicle skill. I'd agree with this.
>
> I dunno. I might make it a Quickness-based skill with an Athletics
> default. It's not really like piloting a vehicle, you know.
>
True - but it doesn't matter how fast you can run/move - you have to be
able to REACT fast in order to snowboard well, don't you? Reflexes,
chummer. Athletics default...hmmm...yeah, all right.


>Okay, here's an idea to get the brains churning.
>
>How about snowboards (and skis) built with smart materials?

> Well, you'd need to build in a power supply, sensors, and a
> microprocessor to compute and implement the changes in the materials.
> I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it'd be pricey.
>
Jeez, you think that'd matter to a hardcore snowboarder? It's the toys,
man, the toys. Same as a street sammie shelling out for move-by-wire
because it's just so much COOLER than wired reflexes.


> Of course, this reminds me of the sport I invented for SR:
> Turbosurfing! Imagine surfboards with inboard impellers and optional
> rigger interfaces. Of course, my grand-champion unlimited-class
> turbosurfer was a Hawai'ian Dolphin shaman known as... The Big Kahuna.
> Made up for the lack of a VCR by using sea spirits on his rides.
> Starjammer | Una salus victus nullam sperare salutem.
>
You, my friend, are weird.

It's a scary thing when I say that. :)

*Doc' summons fire elementals to take him lava-surfing.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 7
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:09:54 +1000
>*Doc' summons fire elementals to take him lava-surfing.*

Doc?

Seek help, man. :-)

Lady Jestyr

The Shadowrun Webring Ringmaster
Webring at: http://shadowrun.html.com/webring/
- Random acts of... good evening, officer. -
jestyr@*******.com.au URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr
Message no. 8
From: Starjammer <starjammer@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:23:47 -0500
At 05:08 PM 1/5/99 +1000, Ratinac, Rand (NSW) wrote:
>>
>> I dunno. I might make it a Quickness-based skill with an Athletics
>> default. It's not really like piloting a vehicle, you know.
>>
>True - but it doesn't matter how fast you can run/move - you have to be
>able to REACT fast in order to snowboard well, don't you? Reflexes,
>chummer. Athletics default...hmmm...yeah, all right.

My bad, I thought the athletic-type skills were Quickness-based, but I just
checked. They're BODY-based; go figure. Anyway, snowboarding seems to
fall more naturally into that catagory than into the catagory of vehicle
control. After all, I doubt you've ever exerted yourself driving a car the
way you would when boarding, even if you're equally adept at both.

>> I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it'd be pricey.
>>
>Jeez, you think that'd matter to a hardcore snowboarder? It's the toys,
>man, the toys. Same as a street sammie shelling out for move-by-wire
>because it's just so much COOLER than wired reflexes.

No, I don't think it'd matter. I'm just saying that the prospective
bleeding-edge snowboarder should be prepared to ramp up his Resources
rating. :) I can see it now: "Dammit, Johnnie, you've GOTTA get me more
work! I'm still 5K short for the new Yamaha YX-20 Windshear smartboard,
and that doesn't count getting to Denver! The season starts in TWO WEEKS,
man!"

>You, my friend, are weird.
>
>It's a scary thing when I say that. :)

Like Machiavelli said, if you've gotta choose between fear and love, choose
fear; it's more reliable. :)


Starjammer | Una salus victus nullam sperare salutem.
starjammer@**********.com | "The one hope of the doomed is not to
Marietta, GA | hope for safety." --Virgil, The Aeneid
Message no. 9
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:24:26 +1000
> >*Doc' summons fire elementals to take him lava-surfing.*
>
> Doc?
>
> Seek help, man. :-)
>
> Lady Jestyr
>
> The Shadowrun Webring Ringmaster
> Webring at: http://shadowrun.html.com/webring/
> - Random acts of... good evening, officer. -
> jestyr@*******.com.au URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr
>
You just don't get it, babe, do ya?

It's the rush, man, the rush. Getting your toes toasted when you turn
too hard, burning to a crisp when you wipe out...damn, woman, it's the
BEST!!!

*Doc' is bundled away in a straightjacket before he can seriously injure
himself.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 10
From: Wyrmy <elfman@******.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:36:40 -0600
Lady Jestyr wrote:
>
> >*Doc' summons fire elementals to take him lava-surfing.*
>
> Doc?
>
> Seek help, man. :-)
>
So where Should we send him?Arkham?The place Venom(and carnage) spent
some time? or maybe just down in the boiler room with Mankind?
:^)

--
-W in the light
----------------------------------------------------------
Wyrmy: Wyrm druid, Scholar, Pokemon trainer extroidenaire.
Famous Quote: "Pikachu? What Pikachu?" BZRAK "Oh,(cough), THAT
Pikachu!"
Message no. 11
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:25:37 +1000
>So where Should we send him?Arkham?The place Venom(and carnage) spent
>some time? or maybe just down in the boiler room with Mankind?

Erm.... sorry, my place is all full up... Besides we only take criminal
masterminds and the supervillains. We have no place for just a plain
weirdo. =)

(>)ARKHAM
"Pop-quiz hotshot: Five hundred Storm Troopers on jetpacks fly down from
the hole in the ceiling. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!"
Message no. 12
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:35:10 +1000
> >So where Should we send him?Arkham?The place Venom(and carnage) spent
> >some time? or maybe just down in the boiler room with Mankind?
>
> Erm.... sorry, my place is all full up... Besides we only take
> criminal masterminds and the supervillains. We have no place for just
> a plain weirdo. =)
> (>)ARKHAM
>
You don't know me very well, then, do you, Arkham. Heh. Heh heh. Heh heh
heh.

Bwahahahahah!!! And all that.

As for you, Wyrmy...look who's talking.

8-)

*Doc' scribbles 'Insert brain here' on the back of Wyrmy's head.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 13
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:32:51 +1000
>> >*Doc' summons fire elementals to take him lava-surfing.*
>>
>> Doc?
>>
>> Seek help, man. :-)
>
>You just don't get it, babe, do ya?
>
>It's the rush, man, the rush. Getting your toes toasted when you turn
>too hard, burning to a crisp when you wipe out...damn, woman, it's the
>BEST!!!
>
>*Doc' is bundled away in a straightjacket before he can seriously injure
>himself.*

It's not you hurting yourself that I'm worried about, Doc, it's everyone
else I'm concerned for. :-)

Lady Jestyr

The Shadowrun Webring Ringmaster
Webring at: http://shadowrun.html.com/webring/
- Random acts of... good evening, officer. -
jestyr@*******.com.au URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr
Message no. 14
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:32:46 +1000
>You don't know me very well, then, do you, Arkham. Heh. Heh heh. Heh heh
>heh.
>
>Bwahahahahah!!! And all that.

That's "Muahahahahah!!!". Sheesh... I dunno. If I have to put up with one
more supervillain-wannabe today... \=)

(>)ARKHAM
"Pop-quiz hotshot: Five hundred Storm Troopers on jetpacks fly down from
the hole in the ceiling. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!"
Message no. 15
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:41:23 +1000
> >> >*Doc' summons fire elementals to take him lava-surfing.*
> >>
> >> Doc?
> >>
> >> Seek help, man. :-)
> >
> >You just don't get it, babe, do ya?
> >
> >It's the rush, man, the rush. Getting your toes toasted when you turn
> >too hard, burning to a crisp when you wipe out...damn, woman, it's
> the
> >BEST!!!
> >
> >*Doc' is bundled away in a straightjacket before he can seriously
> injure
> >himself.*
>
> It's not you hurting yourself that I'm worried about, Doc, it's
> everyone else I'm concerned for. :-)
> Lady Jestyr
>
*Doc' looks up from stuffing the back of Lady J's pants full of C12 and
whistles innocently. "Who, me? I wouldn't hurt a fly."*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 16
From: Theo Karmdeth <theo@*****.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:42:19 GMT
On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:32:46 +1000, you wrote:
>>You don't know me very well, then, do you, Arkham. Heh. Heh heh. Heh =
heh
>>heh.
>>
>>Bwahahahahah!!! And all that.
>
>That's "Muahahahahah!!!". Sheesh... I dunno. If I have to put up with =
one
>more supervillain-wannabe today... \=)
>
>(>)ARKHAM
> "Pop-quiz hotshot: Five hundred Storm Troopers on jetpacks fly down =
from
>the hole in the ceiling. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!"


Actually i think Bwahahahahah!!! has a more distinguished tone about
it. Dont you :> Supervillains are nothing with out style,
Muahahahahahah!!! just doesnt cut it anymore, unless your a wannabe
Aven*shudder*ger...

+-----------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Anything is possible if you don't know what you're |
| talking about. |
+--------------------------------------------------------------+

Cullyn Savill
rori@***.net
a.k.a. Theo
http://www.qflow.com.au/demolitions/theo
Message no. 17
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:44:11 +1000
> >You don't know me very well, then, do you, Arkham. Heh. Heh heh. Heh
> heh
> >heh.
> >
> >Bwahahahahah!!! And all that.
>
> That's "Muahahahahah!!!". Sheesh... I dunno. If I have to put up
> with one more supervillain-wannabe today... \=)
>
> (>)ARKHAM
>
I can see you've never met a real supervillian, Arkham.

<deep voice>
"Who are you??"
</deep voice>

<been kicked in the 'nads once too often voice>
"I'm Flatman."
</been kicked in the 'nads once too often voice>

*Doc' flaps around in a bat-like cape, covered in green questions marks.
"Just call me...the Piddler."*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 18
From: Rick J Federle <griffinhq@****.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:05:47 -0500
On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:35:10 +1000 "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)"
<RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU> writes:
>> >So where Should we send him?Arkham?The place Venom(and carnage)
>spent
>> >some time? or maybe just down in the boiler room with Mankind?
>>
>> Erm.... sorry, my place is all full up... Besides we only take
>> criminal masterminds and the supervillains. We have no place for
>just
>> a plain weirdo. =)
>> (>)ARKHAM
>>
>You don't know me very well, then, do you, Arkham. Heh. Heh heh. Heh
>heh
>heh.
>
>Bwahahahahah!!! And all that.
>
That's okay, he's my problem.
Isn't that right, fetchit boy?


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Message no. 19
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:12:46 +1000
> That's okay, he's my problem.
> Isn't that right, fetchit boy?
> -Hunter
>
>
Bite me, doughboy.

8-)

*Doc' stomps around, muttering, "Yes, sir, anything you say, sir, may I
brown my nose on your hoop, sir?"*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 20
From: Rick J Federle <griffinhq@****.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:19:41 -0500
On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:12:46 +1000 "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)"
<RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU> writes:
>> That's okay, he's my problem.
>> Isn't that right, fetchit boy?
>> -Hunter
>>
>>
>Bite me, doughboy.
>
That's Mr. Megacorp CEO Doughboy.
And don't forget it.

>*Doc' stomps around, muttering, "Yes, sir, anything you say, sir, may
>I brown my nose on your hoop, sir?"*
>
Be nice or I'll feed you to Lofwyr.

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*******************

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me."
-Hunter

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Message no. 21
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:14:09 +0100
According to nocturnal@*******.NET, at 22:58 on 4 Jan 99, the word on
the street was...

> Could anyone out there help me out? I decided to make a new character; a
> snowboarder. How would I go by acquiring appropriate skills, and what
> would a 2060 snowboard look like, run like, and cost? Any help would be
> greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Though I've never snowboarded, I'd say you need a skill for it, which you
could either take as a separate skill, or as a specialization of Athletics
(your decision, based on how you see the skill). Probably Quickness-based,
or perhaps Reaction. Using this skill would probably be an open test if
you're trying to impress people, or against a TN of about 4 or 6 for
normal snowboarding maneuvers during combat situations (avoiding a tree,
for example, or landing right side up after a jump).

Also some knowledge skills related to the subject, like Famous
Snowboarders or Best Places To Snowboard would be helpful.

Costs etc. I have no idea of, but a good rule of thumb is one current US$
to one nuyen.

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Message no. 22
From: Wyrmy <elfman@******.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:58:00 -0600
> As for you, Wyrmy...look who's talking.
>
> 8-)
>
> *Doc' scribbles 'Insert brain here' on the back of Wyrmy's head.*
>

Wyrmy sends charizard to send a large gout of flame to incinerate
doc.Got ya again.
--
-W in the light
----------------------------------------------------------
Wyrmy: Wyrm druid, Scholar, Pokemon trainer extroidenaire.
Famous Quote: "Pikachu? What Pikachu?" BZRAK "Oh,(cough), THAT
Pikachu!"
Message no. 23
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:12:15 -0800
> So where Should we send him?Arkham?The place Venom(and carnage) spent
> some time? or maybe just down in the boiler room with Mankind?
> :^)
>
The place where Venom and Carnage spent some time would be The Vault dude. :)

Yes not only do I play many RPG's, but I find time to read Marvel comics too. Woohoo. :)

-Toffer
Message no. 24
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:24:42 +1000
> > As for you, Wyrmy...look who's talking.
> >
> > 8-)
> >
> > *Doc' scribbles 'Insert brain here' on the back of Wyrmy's head.*
> >
>
> Wyrmy sends charizard to send a large gout of flame to incinerate
> doc.Got ya again.
> --
> -W in the light
>
> Before the ball can hit wyrmy, A piercing cry rings out: "Go
> Alakazam!"
> A fairly large pokemon appears, waves the spoons he has in his
> hands(his power foci) and makes The Dikote Ball rise to the ceiling
> where it cant do any damage.
> "Return Alakazam!"
> "Go MACHOKE"
> A completely muscle pokemon appears and catches the falling dikote
> ball before it hits the ground and throws it through a wall, to
> destroy the wall and scratch the dikote.
> --
> -W in the light
>
> You see what I mean?
>
> *Doc' shakes his head with a long-suffering sigh. "Why me?"*
>
> Doc'
>
> .sig Sauer
Message no. 25
From: Mike Bobroff <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:57:09 EST
In a message dated 1/5/1999 12:00:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
nocturnal@*******.NET writes:

> Could anyone out there help me out? I decided to make a new character; a
> snowboarder. How would I go by acquiring appropriate skills, and what
> would a 2060 snowboard look like, run like, and cost? Any help would be
> greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>

Boarding
This skill governs the use of a board with either wheels or a flat surface to
travel over ground or roads.

Default Attribute : Quickness
Default Skill : Athletics
Type of Skill : Active
Specializations : By Terrain type (snow, paved surfaces, forest type terrain)

You could even use this skill for using a Hoverboard, which can be found on
the soon to be deceased Hoosier Hacker House Junior (it is being incorporated
into HHH).

The add is members.aol.com/hhhad2/intro.htm or .html. From there follow the
link to the Vehicles page, and then go to aircraft.

-=-=-=-

As for what a 2060 Snowboard look like? Probably a little more streamlined
than the ones we have today, but otherwise not much change. As for cost, find
someplace online, see what they are charging, then use the price in dollars as
if it were the price in nuyen.

-Herc
Message no. 26
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: In need of help...
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:03:21 -0500
Ratinac, Rand (NSW) wrote:
> > >*Doc' is bundled away in a straightjacket before he can seriously
> > injure
> > >himself.*
> >
> > It's not you hurting yourself that I'm worried about, Doc, it's
> > everyone else I'm concerned for. :-)
> > Lady Jestyr
> >
> *Doc' looks up from stuffing the back of Lady J's pants full of C12 and
> whistles innocently. "Who, me? I wouldn't hurt a fly."*
>
OK, this is getting a little too kinky. Anyhow, comments about stuffing
other listmembers' pants should go off list. :-)

James Ojaste

PS - CC me. ;-)

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