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Message no. 1
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Intelligence = Perception (was Re: This is my Speed Sam
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:36:08 +0100
Steven Ratkovich said on 11:16/22 Sep 96...

> >The way I see it, Bull is
> >very observant, noticing all the little details, but not necessarily smart
> >enough to figure out that 1 + 1 = 2 without using his fingers :)
> >
> No, he actually is smart, too...:) Of course, he wasn't born an Ork,
> either, so that may have something to do with it...:)

Note that I wasn't saying orks are stupid, I was saying that though a
character may have a very high Intelligence (= Perception), he may not be
very smart, or the other way round.

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Message no. 2
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: Intelligence = Perception (was Re: This is my Speed Sam
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:01:52 -0500 (EST)
>Steven Ratkovich said on 11:16/22 Sep 96...
>
>> >The way I see it, Bull is
>> >very observant, noticing all the little details, but not necessarily smart
>> >enough to figure out that 1 + 1 = 2 without using his fingers :)
>> >
>> No, he actually is smart, too...:) Of course, he wasn't born an Ork,
>> either, so that may have something to do with it...:)
>
>Note that I wasn't saying orks are stupid, I was saying that though a
>character may have a very high Intelligence (= Perception), he may not be
>very smart, or the other way round.
>
>
I understood Gurth...:) Just clarifying things for ya...:) Gotta love this
game...:)


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Message no. 3
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: Intelligence = Perception (was Re: This is my Speed Sam
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:14:15 -0700
Gurth wrote:
>
> Steven Ratkovich said on 11:16/22 Sep 96...
>
> > >The way I see it, Bull is
> > >very observant, noticing all the little details, but not necessarily smart
> > >enough to figure out that 1 + 1 = 2 without using his fingers :)
> > >
> > No, he actually is smart, too...:) Of course, he wasn't born an Ork,
> > either, so that may have something to do with it...:)
>
> Note that I wasn't saying orks are stupid, I was saying that though a
> character may have a very high Intelligence (= Perception), he may not be
> very smart, or the other way round.

Granted the main character in the Changeling novel was a troll, but I
like how they described him being highly intelligent (he was working on
biogenetics afterall) but he had to focus his thoughts. His thinking was
forced and thick, kind of like pushing or throwing a ball in the deep
end of a swimming pool. If he wasn't born an ork this would be even more
pronounced, expression is violent and painful, sometimes taken weeks
which is usually the result of the agressiveness and violent tendencies
or the goblin meta-types.

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 4
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: Intelligence = Perception (was Re: This is my Speed Sam
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:05:07 -0500 (EST)
>>Granted the main character in the Changeling novel was a troll, but I
>like how they described him being highly intelligent (he was working on
>biogenetics afterall) but he had to focus his thoughts. His thinking was
>forced and thick, kind of like pushing or throwing a ball in the deep
>end of a swimming pool. If he wasn't born an ork this would be even more
>pronounced, expression is violent and painful, sometimes taken weeks
>which is usually the result of the agressiveness and violent tendencies
>or the goblin meta-types.
>

I agree that this is the norm... If I were to run across a dozen orks with
an intelligence greatern than four within the Seattle Plex, I would be
amazed... Bull is a very rare exception to the rule, and that is understood
by both player and GM...:) Besides, Bull had to work VERY hard to get where
he's at, and well, threaten his family or friends and even if he is a
decker, you'll see that violent nature taht Orks sometimes have...

Besides, think about this... Bull spent 40 some karma and about $200,000
Nuyen getting to be this smart...:) That's a lot...:)


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# -Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich #
# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
#######################################################

"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda

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