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Message no. 1
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Interesting news
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:10:23 +1000
For those of you who haven't seen it, I include below a rather
interesting news item. I got it off the Star Wars List <plug plug> but I
figured it was even more appropriate for Shadowrun. Enjoy.


Lady Jestyr

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:31:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: HollywdLiz@***.com
To: Rogue3244@***.com, swml@****.NET
Subject: SW comes alive...

The following was sent to me via AP newswire. What's next--hyperspace? Let's
hope so!

<< WASHINGTON (AP) - The Food and Drug Administration approved the
world's first surgical implant to restore movement to a paralyzed
limb Monday, an electronic hand that helps quadriplegics feed
themselves, pour coffee, even write a letter.
NeuroControl Corp.'s implant offers hope to about 54,000 U.S.
quadriplegics who retain some upper-body movement but cannot move
their hands to perform the most basic of tasks. The Freehand's
implanted electrodes send electric impulses to muscles that force a
paralyzed hand to move on command.
``Being able to grasp is very important for activities of daily
life,'' said FDA medical device chief Dr. Bruce Burlington. ``It's
really clear that everybody got somewhat better and other patients
got substantially better'' in tests of the implant.
``I looked at this as a way to add more quality to my life,''
said Eric Schremp of Sheffield Lake, Ohio, who was partially
paralyzed in a 1992 diving accident and received the hand implant
during a clinical trial last year.
``I can shave myself now. I attend college, I'm taking notes in
school,'' Schremp said. ``Plus, it adds confidence that you're able
to pick up a glass in public, do normal things.''
The FDA says Freehand promises to be the first in a line of
increasingly sophisticated devices to force paralyzed limbs to work
again.
``You've seen Star Wars?'' asked Dr. Dan Spiker, FDA's deputy
neurologic devices director, referring to the movie trilogy where
Luke Skywalker gets a fully working hand transplant. This first
prosthetic hand ``is rudimentary compared to that. But that's where
we're headed. ... ItIt is for quadriplegics who can still
move their shoulders, a motion needed to operate the implant.
Today, quadriplegics get some help from external devices that
let them type on computers by blowing into a mouthpiece or feed
themselves with a fork strapped to a hand. Patients also try tendon
and muscle transplants with very limited success.
The Freehand system, in contrast, is an electronic substitute
for the brain's nerve impulses that, because of spinal cord injury,
can no longer signal the hand to move.
A surgeon implants a two-inch processor into the chest, threads
electrodes under the skin down to the patient's best hand and
attaches them to hand muscles. Patients wear under their clothing
on the opposite shoulder a small joystick. A jerk of the shoulder
sends an electronic signal to the implant to tell the thumb to move
toward the fingers in a pinching motion.
Tap a button on the chest with the arm, and the device forces
the muscles into a more intricate movement to grasp a larger object
like a cup.
The faster the shoulder jerks, the quicker the hand movement.
Once patients grasp the object, an upward shoulder movement locks
the grasp in place until they're ready to open the hand again.
Testing of 61 quadriplegics found they all performed tasks of
daily living significantly better with the implant, which was
developed in 25 years of testing at Case Western Reserve
University. Its inventors formed NeuroControl to commercialize the
implant.
Mastering the Freehand takes an average of three months, said
NeuroControl's Geoffrey Thrope, who co-invented the Freehand. The
patient's hand is encased in a cast for a month, and then must
undergo extensive physical rehabilitation and training to operate
the device.
NeuroControl, which began shipping the Freehand to hospitals
Monday, already is testing a second-generation electronic hand to
restore hand movement to the more severely paralyzed. It also is
developing implants to restore leg function and control over
bladder function.
Nobody knows how long the Freehand system will last before the
wires deteriorate or snap, the FDA cautioned. In clinical testing,
20 percent of the patients required additional surgery to
reposition the device, replace broken electrodes or remove
electrodes because of infection. Other side effects included
swelling and skin irritation at the implant site.>>
Message no. 2
From: Shergold <shergold@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: Interesting news
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:02:23 -0400
<snipped stuff 'bout implant for paralyzed people posted by Lady Jestyr>

I saw a similar article in my local paper, but was too lazy to copy it.
Guess my laziness paid off 8*).

l8tr

"Staring into the dragon's jaw, one quickly learns wisdom"


"Jhereg"

Stevne Brust
Message no. 3
From: Kim Christiansen <kimc@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting news
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:01:56 +0100
> From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
> Subject: Interesting news
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:10:23 +1000
>
> For those of you who haven't seen it, I include below a rather
> interesting news item. I got it off the Star Wars List <plug plug> but I
> figured it was even more appropriate for Shadowrun. Enjoy.
> Lady Jestyr
>
> << WASHINGTON (AP) - The Food and Drug Administration approved the
> world's first surgical implant to restore movement to a paralyzed
> limb Monday, an electronic hand that helps quadriplegics feed
> themselves, pour coffee, even write a letter.

ofcourse, you've all read about the ultra small CCD arrray that they've
developed to be implanted into the eye and hooked to the retinal nreve
ending, i.e.- the first cybereye!

kimc

"How am I supposed to know, I'm making this up as I go along!"
-famous archeologist and pre-shadow runner from the 1930's
Message no. 4
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting news
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 16:16:37 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-23 17:06:59 EDT, you write:

> ofcourse, you've all read about the ultra small CCD arrray that they've
> developed to be implanted into the eye and hooked to the retinal nreve
> ending, i.e.- the first cybereye!

Actually, no, I haven't. Heard about the first cyberlimb, the above implant,
the anti-epileptic implant, and a few other various things, but I hadn't
heard anything on this. Could you give a rundown or tell us where to look?

Wolfstar
Message no. 5
From: Kim Christiansen <kimc@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting news
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 07:52:25 +0100
> From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 16:16:37 -0400
>
> In a message dated 97-08-23 17:06:59 EDT, you write:
>
> > ofcourse, you've all read about the ultra small CCD arrray that they've
> > developed to be implanted into the eye and hooked to the retinal nreve
> > ending, i.e.- the first cybereye!
>
> Actually, no, I haven't. Heard about the first cyberlimb, the above
implant,
> the anti-epileptic implant, and a few other various things, but I hadn't
> heard anything on this. Could you give a rundown or tell us where to look?
>
> Wolfstar

O.K.- I looked in yahoo & got a URL for you... check this out!!!

http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/implant/

The folks over at MIT strike again!

kim

"How am I supposed to know, I'm making this up as I go along!"
-famous archeologist and pre-shadow runner from the 1930's
Message no. 6
From: Mike Sapp <cynner29@******.NET>
Subject: Interesting News
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:17:04 -0400
I caught the last half of a story on NPR, National Public Radio, which
stated that the Russian Military has lost/misplaced over one hundred
suitcase nukes. Several of which were reported as "being 1 kiloton, and
capable of destroying 10 to 15 city blocks with a ground detonation."
These nukes weigh between 60 and 80 pounds, 30-40 (est)Kilos, and were
actually stored in suitcases. Which throws up some obvious questions? Why
were they stored in suitcases? Why not wait until you needed it, then get
the suitcase? A nuke isn't a last minute decision that might come after the
stores all close.
I don't know which worries me more, the fact that a hundred are missing or
the fact that they were stored in such a spur of the moment state of
preperation.

Cynner -


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Message no. 7
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:50:27 -0400
At 11:17 PM 9/4/97 -0400, Mike Sapp wrote these timeless words:

> These nukes weigh between 60 and 80 pounds, 30-40 (est)Kilos, and
were
>actually stored in suitcases. Which throws up some obvious questions? Why
>were they stored in suitcases? Why not wait until you needed it, then get
>the suitcase? A nuke isn't a last minute decision that might come after the
>stores all close.
>
This is based more on a few novels and Spy Movies that I've seen, as well
as some speculation and my own opinion, so take it for what it's worth...
but...

Basically those aren't normal suitcases. They're heavy, armored,
protective cases to protect the nuclear warhead and prevent radiation
leakage and whatnot before the detonation. They also included the
electronics and stuff for the detonation. In essence, the suitcases
themselves WERE the bomb.

Spy movies (and a really funny book written by Shadowplay author Nick
Pollotta dn Phile Foglio called Illegal aliens) always had Russian Spies
carrying these around, just waiting for WW3 to start so they could get in
strategic positions around the world to set them off. Basically, they were
suiciders...:]

Bull
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Message no. 8
From: James Lindsay <jlindsay@******.CA>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 05:29:02 GMT
On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:17:04 -0400, Mike Sapp wrote:

> I caught the last half of a story on NPR, National Public Radio, which
> stated that the Russian Military has lost/misplaced over one hundred
> suitcase nukes. Several of which were reported as "being 1 kiloton, and
> capable of destroying 10 to 15 city blocks with a ground detonation."
> These nukes weigh between 60 and 80 pounds, 30-40 (est)Kilos, and were
> actually stored in suitcases. Which throws up some obvious questions? Why
> were they stored in suitcases? Why not wait until you needed it, then get
> the suitcase? A nuke isn't a last minute decision that might come after the
> stores all close.
> I don't know which worries me more, the fact that a hundred are missing or
> the fact that they were stored in such a spur of the moment state of
> preperation.

I wonder how many are still sitting unclaimed at various airports
around the world :P


James W. Lindsay Vancouver, British Columbia
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the grace to accept the things I cannot,
and a great big bag of money."
Message no. 9
From: Mike Sapp <cynner29@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 01:30:23 -0400
At 12:50 AM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:

<snip>
>This is based more on a few novels and Spy Movies that I've seen, as well
>as some speculation and my own opinion, so take it for what it's worth...
>but...
>
>Basically those aren't normal suitcases. They're heavy, armored,
>protective cases to protect the nuclear warhead and prevent radiation
>leakage and whatnot before the detonation. They also included the
>electronics and stuff for the detonation. In essence, the suitcases
>themselves WERE the bomb.
>
Point taken, NPR just is generally very dry and goes to great detail to
report a story accurately without the speculation of Mainstream media.

>Spy movies (and a really funny book written by Shadowplay author Nick
>Pollotta dn Phile Foglio called Illegal aliens) always had Russian Spies
>carrying these around, just waiting for WW3 to start so they could get in
>strategic positions around the world to set them off. Basically, they were
>suiciders...:]

Is that the correct spelling of the authors' names? I've been searching
off and on for two years to find this book but without the authors I was
stuck with " A really funny Sci-fi book" as a description and generally got
shown to the D. Adams section.
Thanks.

Cynner -
Message no. 10
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 01:44:35 -0400
At 01:30 AM 9/5/97 -0400, Mike Sapp wrote these timeless words:

>>Spy movies (and a really funny book written by Shadowplay author Nick
>>Pollotta dn Phile Foglio called Illegal aliens) always had Russian Spies
>>carrying these around, just waiting for WW3 to start so they could get in
>>strategic positions around the world to set them off. Basically, they were
>>suiciders...:]
>
> Is that the correct spelling of the authors' names? I've been
searching
>off and on for two years to find this book but without the authors I was
>stuck with " A really funny Sci-fi book" as a description and generally got
>shown to the D. Adams section.
> Thanks.
>
Yeah, those are the authors... very good book, and much in the same vein
as Adams... I had a copy signed by Pollotta, but it got lost recently...:(
I was bummed I couldn;t get it signed by Foglio as well at GC
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Message no. 11
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:25:06 +0100
Bull said on 0:50/ 5 Sep 97...

> Spy movies (and a really funny book written by Shadowplay author Nick
> Pollotta dn Phile Foglio called Illegal aliens) always had Russian Spies
> carrying these around, just waiting for WW3 to start so they could get in
> strategic positions around the world to set them off. Basically, they were
> suiciders...:]

Although this isn't going to be very useful for an SR game (too
destructive and unstoppable, probably), I just thought of something to
make these bombs even more effective: tell the operatives there's a time
fuse on the bombs, so they have plenty of time to get away after they
activate the bomb. Then issue them with instant-detonation bombs...

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Message no. 12
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:26:45 -0700
> >Spy movies (and a really funny book written by Shadowplay author Nick
> >Pollotta dn Phile Foglio called Illegal aliens) always had Russian Spies
> >carrying these around, just waiting for WW3 to start so they could get in
> >strategic positions around the world to set them off. Basically, they were
> >suiciders...:]

> Is that the correct spelling of the authors' names? I've been searching
> off and on for two years to find this book but without the authors I was
> stuck with " A really funny Sci-fi book" as a description and generally got
> shown to the D. Adams section.
> Thanks.

Nick Pollotta and Philo Foglio. Published by TSR (!), ISBN
0-88038-715-7 (-8204?)

*Wildly* hilarious. Don't remember there being suitcase bombs in it,
though - which means I get to read it again!
Message no. 13
From: Rune Fostervoll <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:35:42 +0200
About the missing nuclear suitcases:

It was not an official report, it was a comment by Aleksander Lebed during
an interview.

It was unknown wether they had been destroyed, lost, or whatever.

Aleksander Lebed is the earlier chief of security in Russia. He was a
political opponent of Jeltsin during the election, but joined Jeltsin
after he was offered the position of chief of security. (IIRC).

Six months later he was fired when saying that if the present situation
was maintained there was danger of a coup. (During the Tetchenya conflict.).

The statement requires some critical analysis as to motive and intention;
a person in such a position cannot be assumed to say something without
political motives.
Message no. 14
From: Craig S Dohmen <dohmen@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:19:00 -0400
> About the missing nuclear suitcases:

60 Minutes is going to have a story about them this Sunday.

--Craig
Message no. 15
From: Mike Sapp <cynner29@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 02:06:18 -0400
At 09:19 PM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> About the missing nuclear suitcases:
>
>60 Minutes is going to have a story about them this Sunday.
>
>
I caught the rest of the story today, and Rune was right when he pointed
out that Lebed had said that during an interview. So it could be a
fabrication based on political motivation, propaganda isn't exactly an
unexplored art in the former CCCP.
The 60 minutes show on sunday is going to be that interview with Lebed,
I'm not sure how much investigating went into this, since it definitely
sounds like something they want to get out quickly while it's still news.

I caught an excerpt from the interview that went like this:

Reporter:" Could they know where the nukes are and just not be telling you?"

Lebed:" No, no I would know if that were the case."

What the hell did the guy expect? Lebed to slap his forehead and say " You
know you're right they don't have to inform me. This isn't even my
department, what am I doing here?"
So it may be something that you could skip. Sorry I wasted the list's time
with this.

Cynner -
Message no. 16
From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 11:59:06 +0000
> Reporter:" Could they know where the nukes are and just not be telling
you?"
>
> Lebed:" No, no I would know if that were the case."
>
> What the hell did the guy expect? Lebed to slap his forehead and say "
You
> know you're right they don't have to inform me. This isn't even my
> department, what am I doing here?"
> So it may be something that you could skip. Sorry I wasted the list's time
> with this.

You didn't waste our time; it's interesting news. And A. Lebed is
AFAIK a very sensible politician (He seemed rather like one of the
'good guys' in the interviews/reports I've seen on him). And he was
chief of security (supreme military commander) which means it is
information he could have access to. But if it is information from
after that, which is likely, then it is somewhat more suspect but not
necessarily wrong.

(I know a Johnson paying abot 100000 for a trip to Kola naval base
and check a certain number of 'civilian' warehouses for suitcases.
Anyone up to a run? :)


--
Fade

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Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
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Message no. 17
From: Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Interesting News
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:57:28 -0500
Reading today's paper is like reading lines right out of Shadowrun
history.

As most of you heard by now, Chrysler and Mercedes merged last week.
(More specifically, Daimler-Benz, Mercedes parent). Today, there are
talks of Mercedes and Nissan hooking up. That would put Chrysler and
Nissan under the same "roof". That could eventually lead to
Chrysler-Nissan produced vehicles, especially trucks.

Also, a researcher is teaming up with a corporation to map the human
genome, saying they can do it cheaper and faster than the current
federally backed Human Genome Project. Current estimates are that
they will map the entire sequence of human genes for $200 million and
do it within three years. The Human Genome Project is a 15-year
program, and has a budget of 3 thousand million (3 billion). They are
halfway through now, and only have decoded 3 percent so far.
If this researchers estimates are correct, this could have the
potential of putting human knowledge of genetics at or beyond the
scope of knowledge currently in the Shadowrun game.

Interesting stuff. Methinks a seer works at FASA, hmmm? :)

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Message no. 18
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:41:21 -0400
Once upon a time, Tim Kerby wrote;

>Interesting stuff. Methinks a seer works at FASA, hmmm? :)

Nope, it's a magic 8 Ball.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

I swear to tell
the Truth, the partial Truth, or something like the Truth.

I am MC23
Message no. 19
From: "Jeremy \"Bolthy\" Zimmerman" <jeremy@***********.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:54:25 -0700
----------
> From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Interesting News
> Date: Monday, May 11, 1998 10:41 AM
>
> Once upon a time, Tim Kerby wrote;
>
> >Interesting stuff. Methinks a seer works at FASA, hmmm? :)
>
> Nope, it's a magic 8 Ball.
>

"Will Fuchi collapse this year?"
*shake**shake* *flip*

"You may rely on it."

"Will there be any devastating aftermath of this collapse?"

*shake**shake* *flip*

"My sources say no."
Message no. 20
From: Caric <caric@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:38:37 -0700
---Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET> wrote:
>
> Reading today's paper is like reading lines right out of Shadowrun
> history.
>
> As most of you heard by now, Chrysler and Mercedes merged last week.
> (More specifically, Daimler-Benz, Mercedes parent). Today, there are
> talks of Mercedes and Nissan hooking up. That would put Chrysler and
> Nissan under the same "roof". That could eventually lead to
> Chrysler-Nissan produced vehicles, especially trucks.

<snip>

I was thinking something very similar to this when I saw that some
company (Goodyear?) had released a tire that you could still drive on
for 50 some odd miles even with no air. anyone wanna guess what it's
called?....You got it Run Flat.


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Message no. 21
From: Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:05:55 -0500
On 11 May 98 at 14:38, Caric wrote:

> I was thinking something very similar to this when I saw that some
> company (Goodyear?) had released a tire that you could still drive
> on for 50 some odd miles even with no air. anyone wanna guess what
> it's called?....You got it Run Flat.

Scary, innit?

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Message no. 22
From: Mike Loseke <mike@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:12:30 -0600
Thus spake Caric:
>
> ---Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET> wrote:
> >
> > Reading today's paper is like reading lines right out of Shadowrun
> > history.
> >
> > As most of you heard by now, Chrysler and Mercedes merged last week.
> > (More specifically, Daimler-Benz, Mercedes parent). Today, there are
> > talks of Mercedes and Nissan hooking up. That would put Chrysler and
> > Nissan under the same "roof". That could eventually lead to
> > Chrysler-Nissan produced vehicles, especially trucks.
>
> <snip>
>
> I was thinking something very similar to this when I saw that some
> company (Goodyear?) had released a tire that you could still drive on
> for 50 some odd miles even with no air. anyone wanna guess what it's
> called?....You got it Run Flat.

This is a case of FASA stealing from reality, not the other way
around. The runflat tires have been around longer than RiggerBB. The
Humvee's the US military uses have them as standard tires. My unit first
got them in 1987. Basically, it's a magnesium insert inside the tire,
mounted to the wheel, which rides on the flat tire. These were listed
as 30 miles at 30mph.

Of course, they've probably been around longer than that, that was just
my first experience with them.

--
Mike Loseke | Unix: Best used by its freshness
mike@*******.com | date of January 19, 2038
Message no. 23
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Interesting News
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:46:59 +0100
Mike Loseke said on 16:12/11 May 98...

[run-flat tires]
> Of course, they've probably been around longer than that, that was just
> my first experience with them.

Most modern US military wheeled vehicles have runflat tires, I believe
since the mid-1980s or so. Only now do they start appearing on civilian
cars as well. One of the advantages from the car designer's point of
view is that they free up space inside the car where normally the spare
wheel is carried.

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