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Message no. 1
From: Adam Getchell <acgetche@****.UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: Jamming laser communications (WARNING! Physics)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:30:07 -0800
On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Sam Thomas wrote:

> You are definetly on the right track, you can also defocuss the beam alittle
> to give you better coverage.

Okay, let's do some back of the envelope calculations.

Emitter: Intensity I, Aperture = .01 meters, Divergence =
.1mRad, Distance to Receiver ,000 meters
Jammer: Intensity I, Aperture = .01 meters, Divergence = 1
mRad (de-focussed), Distance to Emitter variable
Receiver: Dish radius = 10 meters

We neglect atmospheric and beam losses, and employ the small
angle approximation.
Emitter flux = I/ (4*pi*r1^2), Jammer flux = I/(4*pi*r2^2). All
we care about is the ratio between the two. When Eflux/Jflux is high,
the jammer is not noticeable. When this ratio drops much below 3 (a
breakpoint in a normal distribution), we need to examine the actual
Maxwell-Boltzman distributing for the frequency and/or the Routh array to
determine signal stability.

Case 1: Jammer equidistant from Emitter and Reciever at 10 km.
Shines on emitter. r1 = .01 meters, r2 = 10000*.001 = 10 meters
Emitter flux/Jammer flux = 1.0 x 10^6 -->No significant effect
Note: I have not precisely calculated the beam divergence of the
two to find (Divergence Emitter) cross (Divergence Jammer). This
calculation would be more complex, and would only add in geometric
effects that would increase the above ratio. (I would also have to
specify the exact geometry of intersection)

Case 2: Jammer shines on receiver. r1 = 10000*.0001 = 1 meter,
r2 = 10000*.001 = 10 meters
Eflux/Jflux = 100 -->No significant effect

Case 3: Jammer at a range of 500 meters from Emitter.
Shines on emitter. r1= .01 meters, r2 = 500*.001 = .5 meters
Eflux/Jflux = 2500 -->No significant effect

Case 4: Jammer at a range of 500 meters from Receiver. Emitter is
10 km from Receiver. Both shine on receiver. r1 000*.0001= 1 meter,
r2 = 500*.001 = .5 meters.
Eflux/Jflux = .25 -->Possible effects
Jammer signal strength is 4 times the emitter's signal.

Note that only in case 4 does the jammer have a possibility of
working. Even so, by simply polarizing the laser beam rectilinearly the
jammer's signal strength can be cut in half, while circularly polarizing
the beam will cut the signal strength down to a minute fraction,
depending upon the polarization frequency.
Also note that the jammer must know the exact location of the
emitter to within 10 meters at least, and within half a meter for short
ranges. In case 4, the only successful possibility, the jammer must be
within a very short distance of the receiver array. However, because the
information content of the jammer is likely to be quite different than
the real signal, noise filtering algorithms can counteract much of the
jammers' effects.

I believe your laser "jammer" exceeds the bounds of practicality.

> Sinbad Sam

========================================================================
Adam Getchell "Invincibility is in oneself,
acgetche@****.engr.ucdavis.edu vulnerability in the opponent."
http://instruction.ucdavis.edu/html/Adam/getchell.html
Message no. 2
From: Sam Thomas <sinbad@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Jamming laser communications (WARNING! Physics)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 20:28:15 -0600
Adam Getchell writes,

> Case 4: Jammer at a range of 500 meters from Receiver. Emitter is
>10 km from Receiver. Both shine on receiver. r1 000*.0001= 1 meter,
>r2 = 500*.001 = .5 meters.
> Eflux/Jflux = .25 -->Possible effects
>Jammer signal strength is 4 times the emitter's signal.
>
> Note that only in case 4 does the jammer have a possibility of
>working. Even so, by simply polarizing the laser beam rectilinearly the
>jammer's signal strength can be cut in half, while circularly polarizing
>the beam will cut the signal strength down to a minute fraction,
>depending upon the polarization frequency.
> Also note that the jammer must know the exact location of the
>emitter to within 10 meters at least, and within half a meter for short
>ranges. In case 4, the only successful possibility, the jammer must be
>within a very short distance of the receiver array. However, because the
>information content of the jammer is likely to be quite different than
>the real signal, noise filtering algorithms can counteract much of the
>jammers' effects.

Hey you are getting warmer so to speak, example four is definetly on the
right track. But it does not have to be closer just <data deleted> than
nonjamming incoming signal.
> I believe your laser "jammer" exceeds the bounds of practicality.

Well I disagree as to this we (US military) currently do it, and I am sure
that other nations have the ability. But let us agree to disagree.

Sinbad Sam
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Jamming laser communications (WARNING! Physics)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 11:13:36 +0100
> Also note that the jammer must know the exact location of the
>emitter to within 10 meters at least, and within half a meter for short
>ranges.

Not necessarily: you can simply "spray" the suspected area with a lot of
lasers -- you're bound to hit something... Anyone with a few laser detectors
set up in the same area would naturally find your position quickly enough,
of course...


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Message no. 4
From: Sam Thomas <sinbad@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Jamming laser communications (WARNING! Physics)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 12:03:02 -0600
Gurth writes,

>Not necessarily: you can simply "spray" the suspected area with a lot of
>lasers -- you're bound to hit something... Anyone with a few laser detectors
>set up in the same area would naturally find your position quickly enough,
>of course...

Again you are definetly on track with the above. You could make your beam
spread out too.

Sinbad Sam
Message no. 5
From: Adam Getchell <acgetche@****.UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Jamming laser communications (WARNING! Physics)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 09:38:49 -0800
On Sat, 4 Mar 1995, Gurth wrote:

> Not necessarily: you can simply "spray" the suspected area with a lot of
> lasers -- you're bound to hit something... Anyone with a few laser detectors

Not if it's a 10 km by 50 km "corridor", say through the Rocky
Mountains.

> Gurth@******.nl - Gurth@***.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html

========================================================================
Adam Getchell "Invincibility is in oneself,
acgetche@****.engr.ucdavis.edu vulnerability in the opponent."
http://instruction.ucdavis.edu/html/Adam/getchell.html
Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Jamming laser communications (WARNING! Physics)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:13:00 +0100
> Not if it's a 10 km by 50 km "corridor", say through the Rocky
>Mountains.

I was assuming you at least know the approximate position of the receiver.
If you don't, you might as well resort to a tactical nuke :)


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