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Message no. 1
From: "Fisher, Victor" <Victor-Fisher@******.COM>
Subject: Japanese Business Etiquette [Was Things to do in Seattle...]
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:05:12 -0400
David Lowe said:
Oh yeah? I have a friend who is currenly living in Japan and working for
a large Japanese auto manufacturer (one of the big three BTW). He is a
>native english speaker, and his job is to sit in at business meetings and
take notes on what was said, then he later explains to his employers
>what was meant. My understanding is that this is common practice in Japanese
business. His employers may speak English, but they still use
>translators, they are just more subtle about it.

Sorry I didn't delineate myself further [was that the right choice
of words?]. Many Japanese overseas study English much more extensively
than Americans Japanese. And, many companies I was given to believe also
employ translators [human]. But I'll bet those who use translators don't
do so exclusively in important meetings. Many languages, especially ones
like Japanese, often can express a different content just by the
inflection and tone given a sentence, that a translator [at least now]
just can't replicate.
I know at Oxford University, in England, they're doing incredible
things with computer simulated human voices, where great singers can now
perform musical pieces they never sang in life. It's incredible.
Still, you can't tell me that an English businessman with a good
command of Japanese wouldn't score more points [or at least garner a
little more respect] by addressing those 'foreign' businessmen in their
native language. Almost everywhere I've been [except France :-], people
are honored that someone is trying to learn how to speak their tongue,
and tend [NOT ALWAYS] to be a little more sympathetic.
I think I understand a little about the position; I almost took a
similar one in Tokyo teaching English to Japanese students.
There was even a congresional committee on the tv a year or two
ago, talking about the same thing.
And it just proves my point; Japanese businessmen understand more
about how Americans do business than vice versa. It's not an inditement
or anything. I just think learning the language, both in character, and
real life, is worth it.
What the hell was I talking about , anyway?!?
Message no. 2
From: "Fisher, Victor" <Victor-Fisher@******.COM>
Subject: Japanese Business Etiquette [Was Things to do in Seattle...]
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:10:42 -0400
>And, many companies I was given to believe also employ translators [human].
>But I'll bet those who use translators [this should have been MECHANICAL]
>don't do so exclusively in important meetings. Many languages, especially
>ones like Japanese, often can express a different content just by the
>inflection and tone given a sentence, that a mechanical translator [at least
>now] just can't replicate.
>
> That's how it should have turned out.
>
Message no. 3
From: david lowe <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Japanese Business Etiquette [Was Things to do in Seattle...]
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:39:49 -0800
At 4:05 PM 6/5/97, Fisher, Victor wrote:

> Still, you can't tell me that an English businessman with a good
>command of Japanese wouldn't score more points [or at least garner a
>little more respect] by addressing those 'foreign' businessmen in their
>native language. Almost everywhere I've been [except France :-], people
>are honored that someone is trying to learn how to speak their tongue,
>and tend [NOT ALWAYS] to be a little more sympathetic.

Ooops, sorry about that. I came across a little harsh. But I agree, I think
Americans business tends to overlook the importance of knowing at least a
little of the language. I shows respect and a willingness to cross the
boundaries. I get frustrated in general with the American "why can't
everyone speak english" attiude. My brother in law has a great story about
being in Berlin and overhearing a couple Americans complaining about "these
damn foreigners." He finally went over to them and said "hello, who are the
ones with the passports here? Who's the 'damn foreigners?'"

D.

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