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Message no. 1
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Johnny Mnemonic once again (was Re: FASA and Hollywood)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:59:37 +0100
GRANITE said on 8:14/12 Dec 96...

> Why wouldn't you want to see it??? There are some really good portrayals of
> the way things could be in that movie..I thought it was a great first
> step toward a real SR movie..It introduces the
> lifestyle..Deckers..Samis..implant Tech..Some of the same exotic
> weapons..as well as the Mr Johnson concept..and the basic plot "the
> runner will be screwed by just about everybody"..What's snot to
> like???

I read the short story several years ago, and what I've seen of the movie
is just too far removed from what I remember to be JM to me, but still
too close to be something totally different (does that make sense?).

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Message no. 2
From: Peter David Boddy <pdboddy@****.CARLETON.CA>
Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic once again (was Re: FASA and Hollywood)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:41:09 EST
Gurth writes:
> GRANITE said on 8:14/12 Dec 96...
> > Why wouldn't you want to see it??? There are some really good portrayals of
> > the way things could be in that movie..I thought it was a great first
> > step toward a real SR movie..It introduces the
> > lifestyle..Deckers..Samis..implant Tech..Some of the same exotic
> > weapons..as well as the Mr Johnson concept..and the basic plot "the
> > runner will be screwed by just about everybody"..What's snot to
> > like???

Don't forget cyborgs...

> I read the short story several years ago, and what I've seen of the movie
> is just too far removed from what I remember to be JM to me, but still
> too close to be something totally different (does that make sense?).

Yes it makes sense. I haven't read the short story, but I have seen the
movie. I thought the movie was a pretty good portrayal of the 'Net, and
brain implants. Strange Days had a more Shadowrun-ish atmosphere, its
darker, more gritty, it shows what happens when you have too much
cyberware (or improperly installed cyberware), and it proves that you
can't trust anyone (among other things).

Pete

Pete aka Spitfire
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at http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/8920/index.html
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Peter David Boddy
Carleton University
Email address: pdboddy@****.carleton.ca
Email address: bx955@*******.carleton.ca
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Message no. 3
From: Justin Pinnow <jpinnow@*****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic once again (was Re: FASA and Hollywood)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:59:37 -0500
Peter David Boddy wrote:

<Snip>

> Yes it makes sense. I haven't read the short story, but I have seen the
> movie. I thought the movie was a pretty good portrayal of the 'Net, and
> brain implants. Strange Days had a more Shadowrun-ish atmosphere, its
> darker, more gritty, it shows what happens when you have too much
> cyberware (or improperly installed cyberware), and it proves that you
> can't trust anyone (among other things).

And don't forget that Angela Bassett kicked three kinds of butt in
Strange Days. :) I actually enjoyed Strange Days quite a bit. Mainly
because it really caught the paranoid feel of the Shadowrun universe. I
have (and still do) played in too many games where the other players
think I am playing my character as overly paranoid when I take the usual
basic precautions that any shadowrunner (read: CRIMINAL) should take in
order to stay alive and in business. I haven't seen another movie catch
the feel of Shadowrun anywhere near as well as Strange Days. However, I
would watch Johnny Mneumonic to fill in some details about the Matrix
and headware...oh, and what reflex enhancements can do and how they
reflect on your reputation (everyone was criticizing the sammie chic
because she was TOO hyped up in regards to reflexes...bad social thing
to do, even among fellow shadowrunners).

Justin :)
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Justin Pinnow
jpinnow@*****.edu
Message no. 4
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic once again (was Re: FASA and Hollywood)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:21:24 -0700
> From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
> I read the short story several years ago, and what I've seen of the movie
> is just too far removed from what I remember to be JM to me, but still
> too close to be something totally different (does that make sense?).

Sort of..You liked the character in the story too much to see how he
had been changed in the movie...Am I close?? This I can at least
understand..But I would still recommend the flick..I too have often
been dissatisfied in this manor..that is why now I wait till after
the I see the movie to read the novel..Otherwise I keep comparing the
two and it ruins the whole movie..When I read the book after I can
more easily put the movie asside in my mind and enjoy the book... :)

-------------------------------GRANITE
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Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic once again (was Re: FASA and Hollywood)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:17:24 +0100
GRANITE said on 20:21/13 Dec 96...

> Sort of..You liked the character in the story too much to see how he
> had been changed in the movie...Am I close??

I guess that's mostly what's keeping me from renting the movie, yes. It's
also why I still haven't seen Interview With The Vampire, even though I've
been told it's been done pretty well.

> This I can at least understand..But I would still recommend the flick..I
> too have often been dissatisfied in this manor..that is why now I wait
> till after the I see the movie to read the novel..Otherwise I keep
> comparing the two and it ruins the whole movie..When I read the book
> after I can more easily put the movie asside in my mind and enjoy the
> book... :)

Not so easy if you read the novel and a few years later somebody makes a
movie out of it :) At any rate I would still find myself comparing the
two, just it would go the other way around -- "They didn't have this in
the movie!" or "Where is the scene where this and that happened?" :)

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