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Message no. 1
From: Asher Rosenberg <asrosenberg@******.COM>
Subject: Killing hands (Was Re: New PhysAd Power: Adhesion)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:41:42 +0000
On 28 Dec 96 at 20:06, Tim Cooper wrote:
> Nooo...the key word was 'difference' in cost.
>
> Thus if the costs are: L-1, M-2, S-4, D-8 (and I have no idea what they
> ACTUALLY are, but just go with it..)
>
> You subtract the lower levels cost from the next level, thus:
>
> To get to S, you would buy L for 1, M for (2-1=1), and S for (4-2=2),
> which totals 4 either way you do it.

No, each Damage Level is considered a different power, not an upgrade
of the previous level.

<Leans back in chair and gets sourcebooks off bookshelf behind him>
To quote SR2, page 126:
"When using Unarmed Combat, an adept with Killing Hands may choose to
do either the normal Stun damage, or the improved Physical Damage, as
purchased."
i.e. an Adept with Killing Hands D cannot choose to withhold some
of his power and only inlict Moderate Physical damage.

Then, a few lines later it says:
"Technically, there is nothing to stop a physical adept from
acquiring more than one of the levels, say Light and Deadly."
Nowhere is improving the already purchased version of the power
mentioned.

So, as I see it, the only reason an adept would have more than one
level of the power is if they wanted some flexibility about what sort
of Physical Damage they could inflict.
Or, if they purchased a low power version of the power at character
creation and then saved up Magic Points from initiations to buy a
deadlier version of the power.
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Killing hands (Was Re: New PhysAd Power: Adhesion)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:50:54 +0100
Asher Rosenberg said on 14:41/29 Dec 96...

> > To get to S, you would buy L for 1, M for (2-1=1), and S for (4-2=2),
> > which totals 4 either way you do it.
>
> No, each Damage Level is considered a different power, not an upgrade
> of the previous level.

*BBZZZZZZTT* Only if you decide to purchase them that way. Read on...

> <Leans back in chair and gets sourcebooks off bookshelf behind him>
> To quote SR2, page 126:
> "When using Unarmed Combat, an adept with Killing Hands may choose to
> do either the normal Stun damage, or the improved Physical Damage, as
> purchased."
> i.e. an Adept with Killing Hands D cannot choose to withhold some
> of his power and only inlict Moderate Physical damage.

This is true.

> Then, a few lines later it says:
> "Technically, there is nothing to stop a physical adept from
> acquiring more than one of the levels, say Light and Deadly."
> Nowhere is improving the already purchased version of the power
> mentioned.

Not in that paragraph, no. Look under Physical Adepts And Magic, also on
page 126, and you'll see that a physad can upgrade a power to a higher
level by spending the difference in costs -- Killing Hands is even given
as an example.

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