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Message no. 1
From: Jan-bart van Beek <flake@***.DDS.NL>
Subject: Re: laser power
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 20:53:40 +0100
I have to disagree with Firepower.
If you would be firing at a banshee with a assault cannon, you're damage
would be 18D against an total armor of 6+18 (body + armor ). Or to put in
another way ,it wouldn't even penetrate the first layer of armor.

while if you would be using a laser you would have a power of 15M against
an overall armor rating of 6+9 (body + half the armor). OK ,wrong example
,it still wouldn't penetrate the armor but at least your effective force
would be 0 instead of -6. Lasers do rule on the field of armor piercing
weapons.(not counting missiles that is)

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Message no. 2
From: Firepower <DVANDERS@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: laser power
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 16:08:04 EST
this makes good sense-- thanx!!! I also agree with Erik that I
should just plain make some things kinda hard to find--- god forbid
that my runners should discove Plutonium--things are bad enough for
them.
Firepower
Message no. 3
From: Shadowdancer <BRIDDLE@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: laser power
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 19:09:21 EST
Jan-bart writes:

> If you would be firing at a banshee with a assault cannon, you're
damage
> would be 18D against an total armor of 6+18 (body + armor ). Or to
put in
> another way ,it wouldn't even penetrate the first layer of armor.
>
> while if you would be using a laser you would have a power of 15M
against
> an overall armor rating of 6+9 (body + half the armor). OK ,wrong
example
> ,it still wouldn't penetrate the armor but at least your effective force
> would be 0 instead of -6. Lasers do rule on the field of armor
piercing

You are a little off. When you are firing at said banshee, the assult
cannon(18d) would bounce off the armor(18 basic scout model). This
is because you are trying to hit the banshee, a shoot-through. But
since the assult cannon is explosive, trying to damage the armor will
be easier, since the armor ramains the same. The only time you add
body to armor is when the vehicle is resisting damage, and that is
body+1/2armor. The armor also reduces the power of the weapon by
its rating. The assult shell has no power left. THe laser, on the other
hand, is armor-piercing. Only 1/2 armor counts if it is a
shoot-through. 15m vs a 9, laser gets through with a 6m, vehicle
resistes with a 15. It may not do damage, but the damn thing
penetrated. Plus the armor will degrade by 1, making it easier next
time.



Many people run the shadows, praying that whatever gods they worship will smile upon them.
I waltz through shadows with my gods, and I lead!

-SHADOWDANCER-
Message no. 4
From: Malcalypse The Younger <shadow@******.NET>
Subject: Re: laser power
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:02:25 -0500
On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Firepower wrote:

> this makes good sense-- thanx!!! I also agree with Erik that I
> should just plain make some things kinda hard to find--- god forbid
> that my runners should discove Plutonium--things are bad enough for
> them.

ACTUALLY.... Plutonium (almost weapon's grade) is produced by a lot of
old-style nuclear reactors... All the runner might have to to is go to
some 3rd world nation and make a raid on thier nuke facilities.... Or
perhaps a terrorist group does this and the runners have to put a stop to
it.... Hm. Just some ideas.

Shadow
Message no. 5
From: Adam Getchell <acgetche@****.UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: laser power
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 08:45:15 -0800
On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Malcalypse The Younger wrote:

> ACTUALLY.... Plutonium (almost weapon's grade) is produced by a lot of
> old-style nuclear reactors... All the runner might have to to is go to
> some 3rd world nation and make a raid on thier nuke facilities.... Or
> perhaps a terrorist group does this and the runners have to put a stop to

Actually, third world countries get light-water reactors, which
do not produce weapons grade anything. Such as the Canadian Alcator
series. There are only certain kinds of reactors that can produce
weapons grade uranium and plutonium, and we are quite familiar with their
operating characteristics.

Shadow >

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Message no. 6
From: Kevin Ragan <kragan@***.UVIC.CA>
Subject: Re: laser power
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:59:47 PST
Hi there. Case in point: India.

It was sent one of the Candu nuclear reactors, and extracted weapons grade
plutonium for it in the development of fission weapons. For that breach of coract, Canada
has stated that it is no longer responsible for the maintenance of these reactors, and now
they are falling apart, a hair's width away from a
meltdown.

A sorry state of affairs.

Just my thoughts,
Blackest Night
AKA Tom Hirt.

"... Well, I didn't want to spoil your tea."

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