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Message no. 1
From: What's this button do? <GRAFF85@********.CORTLAND.EDU>
Subject: Laser sight/ Smartgun links...
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:58:02 -0400
I have a question that keeps coming up in my mind....probably was one of the
first ones answered on this list...is it too munchkinous to stick to the rules
about smart gun links and laser sights (can't be used in conjunction) till the
day said munchkin dies?

--Dave

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Message no. 2
From: Egil Geir Brautaset <egilbra@***.UNIT.NO>
Subject: Re: Laser sight/ Smartgun links...
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:37:21 +0100
SHOW NO MERCY

Egil
Message no. 3
From: What's this button do? <GRAFF85@********.CORTLAND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Laser sight/ Smartgun links...
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 09:42:40 -0400
>SHOW NO MERCY
>
>Egil
^^^^^<=- Munchkin.....
Message no. 4
From: The Powerhouse <P.C.Steele@*********.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Laser sight/ Smartgun links...
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:37:31 +0000
In reply to What's this button do? .....

> I have a question that keeps coming up in my mind....probably was one of the
> first ones answered on this list...is it too munchkinous to stick to the rules
> about smart gun links and laser sights (can't be used in conjunction) till the
> day said munchkin dies?
>

What is the point of using a laser sight and a smartgun link together ? With
the smartgun link you get a cross hair on your retina and some feedback to
help you steady the gun. With the laser sight you just have another dot on
the target in the same place where you see the cross hair. Seems a bit
pointless to me, there is also the downside of laser sights. When a laser sight
is activated it is quite possible to be able to see the light, all you need is
a dark or smokey enviroment, anyone who as every played a laser quest game can
tell you that.

If your munchkin stil wants to do it, let him but only give him -2 to TN's, not
-3.

Phill.
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Message no. 5
From: "I. M. Legion" <legion@***.SC.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Laser sight/ Smartgun links...
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 08:44:17 -0700
The Powerhouse writes:
> What is the point of using a laser sight and a smartgun link together ? With
> the smartgun link you get a cross hair on your retina and some feedback to
> help you steady the gun. With the laser sight you just have another dot on
> the target in the same place where you see the cross hair. Seems a bit
> pointless to me, there is also the downside of laser sights. When a laser
> sight is activated it is quite possible to be able to see the light, all
> you need is a dark or smokey enviroment, anyone who as every played a laser
> quest game can tell you that.

Aha! You *wouldn't* get a little red dot in the same place that the smartlink's
reticle would be if you were using the two in conjunction. The reason: a
laser sight is calibrated to target where the round will hit for a general
range, like ~25m or ~50m. The smartgun link knows all the ballistic
capabilities of the weapon, as well as other governing factors like the
temperature, crosswind velocity (it gets that info from your eyeballs and
sensory areas in the brain), humidity in the general area, etc... It takes
all these factors into account, calulates the super-elevation and deflection
to aim at, tells the hand/arm/shoulder where to point it, and puts the
eye reticle on the projected point of impact. Rarely are these two targetting
methods going to match up. Not to mention the fact that it's easier to knock
a laser sight out of alignment than it is to knock out a smartgun link.

> If your munchkin still wants to do it, let him but only give him -2 to TN's,
> not -3.

Screw that. Don't give him any modifiers (except maybe a bad one). He'd be
too busy trying to figure out which aiming point was the right one to get
any bonuses from either.

Legion
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Message no. 6
From: "Silly puppy...." <MHILLIARD@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Laser sight/ Smartgun links...
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:14:23 -0500
I thought that the smartgun depended on an integral laser sight and
already included the laser's -1 tn withing it's own -2.

Oh, wait, I'm thinking of Cyberpunk. Sorry.
But you could tell your munchkin that anyway. =)

Phelan

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