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Message no. 1
From: "Logan Graves <Fenris>" <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
Subject: Law & Disorder in Seattle (was: Prison in Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:53:39 -0500
In our last episode, Mamoulian wrote:
>
> I have some questions regarding incarseration in Shadowrun:
> Who runs it?

(Note: I pulled this topic outside of the 'CyberPirates' thread fer
easier viewing. ;-)

Currently, in my burg (Seattle), the city's security contract is held by
Lone Star Security Services. Along with the Metroplex Guard (based out
of Ft. Lewis), they provide most of the public law enforcement, however
the Federal Gov't is also present (in a much diminished capacity).

>
> Where are the major prisons?

Well, in Seattle, you can hardly sneeze without blowing snot on one. In
other words, every district (except fer Council Island) has a major
prison:

Seattle's downtown Metroplex Prison
the Federal Building in downtown Seattle has 'holding cells'
Silcox Correctional Facilities in Tacoma
Shadowlake Correctional Facilities in Renton
the McMillin Correctional Facilities in Puyallup
Bellevue Correctional Facilities
the Wynaco Correctional Facilities in Auburn
Thrasher's Correctional Facilities in Snohomish
the Fort Lewis Stockades
and of course, the Hollywood Correctional Facilities in Redmond.


>
> Are there still witness protection programs? Who runs them?

Not sure about Lone Star's policy. IMHO, they'd rather 'off' the "pesky
witnesses," once their usefulness is fulfilled, instead of having to put
'em up in luxury somewhere (but that's just me...).

However, the Federal Witness Protection program is mentioned (hinted at)
in a number of sourcebooks, including Corporate Shadowfiles, where the
Chromed Accountant cites this as his reason for now living in Seattle.

>
> Are there still probation\parole officers for offenders?

Wherever there's a parole system, there'll *always* be offenders &
violators. How do you think all o' those hard-working bounty hunters
make their living? Seriously though, Lone Star has an entire Department
of Parole and Probation.

>
> Any answers, suggestions, or links to info would be appreciated.

Here's a telling quote from page 74 of the Lone Star Sourcebook,
"When cyberware caught on and magic appeared, security
requirements changed again...Governments needed cells
that a juiced samurai couldn't rip his way through and
had to pay hefty salaries to magically adept guards ...
To cap it all off, the numbers of criminals, particularly
ultra-violent criminals who could only be tossed into the
highest-security boxes, continued to rise."

My advice to you, chummer is to grab a hold of a copy of that venerable
favorite, the Seattle Sourcebook (or if you can wait fer it) buy Steven
Kenson's "Seattle Sourcebook, MK II." Also, you *really* need a copy of
the Lone Star Sourcebook. Lots & lots of criminal & legal drek in
there! Also, the Sprawl Sites Sourcebook has a fairly comprehensive
mini-section on Sprawl Law & what'll happen to you when you break it (&
how long you can expect to stay, & how much it'll cost you, etc.)

Hope this helps.
--Fenris
_______________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
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Message no. 2
From: James Lindsay <jlindsay@******.CA>
Subject: Re: Law & Disorder in Seattle (was: Prison in Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 05:14:41 GMT
On Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:53:39 -0500, Logan Graves <Fenris> wrote:

> In our last episode, Mamoulian wrote:
> >
> > Are there still witness protection programs? Who runs them?
>
> Not sure about Lone Star's policy. IMHO, they'd rather 'off' the "pesky
> witnesses," once their usefulness is fulfilled, instead of having to put
> 'em up in luxury somewhere (but that's just me...).

I very much doubt it :) News like this would be big (off-ing high
maintenance witnesses after they have testified) and it *would* get out.
Think about it... someone working for such a program could approach the
media with such a story and get paid well enough to retire for life! Then
you'd have a sharp _decline_ in the number of witnesses coming forward :)




James W. Lindsay Vancouver, British Columbia
"http://www.prosperoimaging.com/ground_zero";

Money talks... it usually says "bend over"...

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