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Message no. 1
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:27:36 +0100
Tom Pendergrast said on 18:08/14 May 96...

> > I thought the standard firearm for cops was now the Ruger Thunderbolt.
> > It's a lot scarier than a Predator.

Yep.

> ((Ruger Thunderbolt? What's that? <stats anyone?>))

Its a lousy heavy pistol that fires 3-round bursts only. 12 rounds (so
only 4 bursts), and an integral laser sight or smartlink. It's in the Lone
Star sourcebook, where they say it's got a ROF of 1500 rounds per
second... reality check, anyone?

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Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Wed, 15 May 96 19:41:16 +1030
>Its a lousy heavy pistol that fires 3-round bursts only. 12 rounds (so
>only 4 bursts), and an integral laser sight or smartlink. It's in the Lone
>Star sourcebook, where they say it's got a ROF of 1500 rounds per
>second... reality check, anyone?

It depends what you mean... it's got a rate of 1500 rounds/second for 3
round bursts. That's why it gets so little recoil. Add in a 4th, and it
doesn't. :)


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Message no. 3
From: Justin Thomas <Justin.C.Thomas-1@**.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 13:58:59 -0500
At 11:27 AM 5/15/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Tom Pendergrast said on 18:08/14 May 96...
>
>> > I thought the standard firearm for cops was now the Ruger Thunderbolt.
>> > It's a lot scarier than a Predator.
>
>Yep.
>
>> ((Ruger Thunderbolt? What's that? <stats anyone?>))
>
>Its a lousy heavy pistol that fires 3-round bursts only. 12 rounds (so
>only 4 bursts), and an integral laser sight or smartlink. It's in the Lone
>Star sourcebook, where they say it's got a ROF of 1500 rounds per
>second... reality check, anyone?

What do you mean a lousy pistol... 3 of my seven players in my group have
the ruger thunderbolt.... it fires the first burst with out any recoil and
does 12S damage... and with seven people a person hardly ever uses up that
clip in one combat sequence...
******************************
Justin Thomas
"Farr"
Email:
thom0767@****.tc.umn.edu
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Message no. 4
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:18:45 -0400 (EDT)
At 13:58 5/15/96 -0500, you wrote:
>At 11:27 AM 5/15/96 +0100, you wrote:
>>Tom Pendergrast said on 18:08/14 May 96...
>>
>>> > I thought the standard firearm for cops was now the Ruger Thunderbolt.

>>> > It's a lot scarier than a Predator.
>>
>>Yep.
>>
>>> ((Ruger Thunderbolt? What's that? <stats anyone?>))
>>
>>Its a lousy heavy pistol that fires 3-round bursts only. 12 rounds (so
>>only 4 bursts), and an integral laser sight or smartlink. It's in the Lone
>>Star sourcebook, where they say it's got a ROF of 1500 rounds per
>>second... reality check, anyone?
>
>What do you mean a lousy pistol... 3 of my seven players in my group have
>the ruger thunderbolt.... it fires the first burst with out any recoil and
>does 12S damage... and with seven people a person hardly ever uses up that
>clip in one combat sequence...
>

Must suck when they all run dry at the same time.

Sasquatch

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Message no. 5
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Thu, 16 May 96 11:56:20 +1030
>What do you mean a lousy pistol... 3 of my seven players in my group have
>the ruger thunderbolt.... it fires the first burst with out any recoil and
>does 12S damage... and with seven people a person hardly ever uses up that
>clip in one combat sequence...

It's lousy 'cause it's got no ammo capacity worth mentioning... It's good
for intimidation, and as a back-up weapon, but there's no way I'd want it
as my primary gun.

4 shots is NOT much.


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Message no. 6
From: "Paul J. Adam" <paul@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 23:47:26 +0100
In message <199605150926.LAA17871@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.nl> writes
>Its a lousy heavy pistol that fires 3-round bursts only. 12 rounds (so
>only 4 bursts), and an integral laser sight or smartlink. It's in the Lone
>Star sourcebook, where they say it's got a ROF of 1500 rounds per
>second... reality check, anyone?

Well, the H&K G11 manages over 2,000rpm for its burst, and most (single
barreled) aircraft cannon can do 1500-1800 at high rate. Perhaps they
made a typo? :) Or maybe it's one of these "Metalstorm" ultra-fast guns.


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Message no. 7
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 11:52:00 +0100
Paul J. Adam said on 23:47/15 May 96...

> >Star sourcebook, where they say it's got a ROF of 1500 rounds per
> >second... reality check, anyone?
>
> Well, the H&K G11 manages over 2,000rpm for its burst, and most (single
> barreled) aircraft cannon can do 1500-1800 at high rate. Perhaps they
> made a typo? :) Or maybe it's one of these "Metalstorm" ultra-fast guns.

It must have been either a typo or someone who doesn't know the first
thing about common sense :) 90,000 rpm is a bit much, if you ask me...

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Message no. 8
From: "Paul J. Adam" <paul@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LMGs, PACs, Sniper Rifles, MMGs, Shotguns, Missile Laun
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:15:54 +0100
In message <199605170950.LAA09491@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.nl> writes
>It must have been either a typo or someone who doesn't know the first
>thing about common sense :) 90,000 rpm is a bit much, if you ask me...

Metalstorm tops 100,000, but only for a very short time: multiple-loaded
barrels fired in parallel, intended as an anti-missile defence for AFVs
in one article I saw. That's just me being pedantic, though, there'd be
no point doing this for small-arms :)

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Paul J. Adam

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