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Message no. 1
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Load
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 15:18:23 -0500
Black IC doesn't contribute to node loads? Wow--the most power IC out there
and it doesn't have to worry about overloading a node. If you follow the
reasoning that it's on a separate system, then why does a decker (whose
deck is a 'separate system') contribute?

A decker affects node load because his software has to use some load
memory in order to affect it. Black IC must do the same--it can't affect
a node without interacting with the node and consequently using up
memory.

J Roberson
Message no. 2
From: Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Load
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:17:43 EDT
>>>>> "RJR" == RJR96326 <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU> writes:

RJR> Black IC doesn't contribute to node loads? Wow--the most power IC out
RJR> there and it doesn't have to worry about overloading a node. If you
RJR> follow the reasoning that it's on a separate system, then why does a
RJR> decker (whose deck is a 'separate system') contribute?

Read VR. When an active alert is triggered, the load in a node is increased
automatically to increase the effectiveness of IC. When Black IC is
activated, the node's load is already 50% higher or more. So technically
the Black IC doesn't increase the load, it's just filling up the space
thats been made for it.

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Message no. 3
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Load
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:55:56 -0700
RJR> Black IC doesn't contribute to node loads? Wow--the most power IC out
RJR> there and it doesn't have to worry about overloading a node. If you
RJR> follow the reasoning that it's on a separate system, then why does a
RJR> decker (whose deck is a 'separate system') contribute?

>>Read VR. When an active alert is triggered, the load in a node is increased
>>automatically to increase the effectiveness of IC. When Black IC is
>>activated, the node's load is already 50% higher or more. So technically
>>the Black IC doesn't increase the load, it's just filling up the space
>>thats been made for it.

While I don't have ready access to VR, I do remember that when an active or
passive alert is sounded the effective value of White IC is increased 50%
because the system spends more processing time on them. I don't believe this
counts for Grey or Black IC, at least in VR. Regardless the node's maximum
load rating doesn't change. And I'm still damn sure that Black IC has a load
rating (of 1.5 per point)..

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker
Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Load
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:29:40 -0600
K is the Symbol wrote:
/
/ There is also one more thing to consider. No where within the rules have the
/ concepts of "Multiple Power Plants" been fully flushed out. Let's face facts,
/ think of the modified 747 (or whatever that Jet is) is that carries the
/ shuttle from point A to point B. Now go for the load bearing rules, and you
/ will see where things just need a bit more tweaking/flushing out in order to
/ really get into the swing of things.

Keep in mind that the shuttle is supporting most of it's own weight
once the 747 gets up to speed. It's engines may not be firing, but air
is moving over the shuttle's wings, creating lift.

-David
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Message no. 5
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Load
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:28:27 EDT
In a message dated 7/17/1998 9:29:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG writes:

>
> Keep in mind that the shuttle is supporting most of it's own weight
> once the 747 gets up to speed. It's engines may not be firing, but air
> is moving over the shuttle's wings, creating lift.
>
> -
The important thing is the "up to speed" part. The fact of the matter still
remains that the engines of the 747 are still being required to do all of
this. They are also required to continue to provide the lift over the drag.

And please note, the shuttle does -NOT- produce very much positive lift at
all. Those wings aren't for gaining altitude, they are for maintaining a
controlled fall.

-K

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