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Message no. 1
From: Lander Williams <lander@****.WAVE.CA>
Subject: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 02:02:46 -0600
im looking for info on Calgary and area.
i know its in the NAN, although the SRII manual doesn't seem to know
which area its in <one map says algonquin <sp>-manitou, another
says.. somewhere else.. dont remember off hand>

anyways.. i looked through a couple of the NAN books, and couldn't
find any reference. Ill grant that i was doing so in a store, where browsing
is frowned upon, so i couldn't take my time. *IS* there any info in said
books,
or somewhere on the 'net, or should i look into that as something to submit
(G)
Message no. 2
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:57:51 -0600
At 02:02 04/05/98 -0600, you wrote:
>im looking for info on Calgary and area.
>i know its in the NAN, although the SRII manual doesn't seem to know
>which area its in <one map says algonquin <sp>-manitou, another
>says.. somewhere else.. dont remember off hand>

Dead town, IMO. Most of Alberta is too rural to survive properly when
'artificial' food comes into play big time. The only thing that could
still bring it enough money to keep Alberta afloat is the oil industry, if
it hasn't died by then. Do the experts have any guesses on when those oil
sands up north will run out at the current rate we're going?

>anyways.. i looked through a couple of the NAN books, and couldn't
>find any reference. Ill grant that i was doing so in a store, where browsing
>is frowned upon, so i couldn't take my time. *IS* there any info in said
>books,
>or somewhere on the 'net, or should i look into that as something to submit
>(G)

I don't have either of the NAN books myself. I assume you're in Calgary --
last time I was up there Sentry Box had both NAN books in the used section.
Of course, that was several months ago, so who knows. I've never seen
anything for Calgary on the net, although I have considered doing it
myself, but certainly don't have the time now :/

-Adam J
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Message no. 3
From: Lander Williams <lander@****.WAVE.CA>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:16:39 -0600
>At 02:02 04/05/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>im looking for info on Calgary and area.
>>i know its in the NAN, although the SRII manual doesn't seem to know
>>which area its in <one map says algonquin <sp>-manitou, another
>>says.. somewhere else.. dont remember off hand>

>Dead town, IMO. Most of Alberta is too rural to survive properly when
>'artificial' food comes into play big time. The only thing that could
>still bring it enough money to keep Alberta afloat is the oil industry, if
>it hasn't died by then. Do the experts have any guesses on when those oil
>sands up north will run out at the current rate we're going?


no idea.. never really looked into it. Calgary does have more to it than
just
agriculture and oil, tho id be hard pressed to give any GOOD examples. :)

>I don't have either of the NAN books myself. I assume you're in Calgary --

yeah.. lived here most of my life, and i still dont klnow much about its
industry

>last time I was up there Sentry Box had both NAN books in the used section.
> Of course, that was several months ago, so who knows. I've never seen
>anything for Calgary on the net, although I have considered doing it
>myself, but certainly don't have the time now :/


ill check out the NAN books more thoroughly.. i live near Sentry Box, so
thats not
hard. If i dont find anything, im gonna look into doing something about
that, if anyone
wants to help :)

i figure that calgary would still be around, just not as 'industrial' or
'commercial' as
it is now. There are all sortsa 'spiritual' things about it.. one of the
reasons it always
gets a lot of supernatural attention in other RPGS (speciffically Beyond the
Supernatural
and Rifts), so shamantic mages might do stuff around here. And because its
quite out of
the way, it could make for decent secure areas for corp research.
Message no. 4
From: Geoff Morochnick <bodiam@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:31:50 -0400
> im looking for info on Calgary and area.
> i know its in the NAN, although the SRII manual doesn't seem to know
> which area its in <one map says algonquin <sp>-manitou, another
> says.. somewhere else.. dont remember off hand>
>

Well, the big map at the back of the BBB says it's Algonkian-Manitou, though it
is fairly close to the Athabascan Council and Salish-Sidhe.

--
Stonebow
"A milion years?" persisted the jeering old man with keen sadistic zest.
"A half million? The frog is is almost 500 million years old.Could
you really say, with much certainty, that America, with all it's
strength and prosperity, with it's fighting man that is second to
none and with it's standard of living that is the highest in the
world, will last as long as... the frog?"
Joseph Heller, Catch-22
bodiam@**********.com
http://www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/8427
Message no. 5
From: Lander Williams <lander@****.WAVE.CA>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:52:35 -0600
>> im looking for info on Calgary and area.
>> i know its in the NAN, although the SRII manual doesn't seem to know
>> which area its in <one map says algonquin <sp>-manitou, another
>> says.. somewhere else.. dont remember off hand>

>Well, the big map at the back of the BBB says it's Algonkian-Manitou,
though it
>is fairly close to the Athabascan Council and Salish-Sidhe.


yeah, but the Matrix Chapter RTG Map puts it in the Sioux Nation..

lander@****.wave.ca
Message no. 6
From: Philippe Garneau <aaa302@*****.ULAVAL.CA>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 17:00:27 -0400
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Lander Williams <lander@****.WAVE.CA>
À : SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET <SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date : 4 mai, 1998 15:18
Objet : Re: looking for info


>>At 02:02 04/05/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>im looking for info on Calgary and area.
>>>i know its in the NAN, although the SRII manual doesn't seem to know
>>>which area its in <one map says algonquin <sp>-manitou, another
>>>says.. somewhere else.. dont remember off hand>
>
>>Dead town, IMO. Most of Alberta is too rural to survive properly when
>>'artificial' food comes into play big time. The only thing that could
>>still bring it enough money to keep Alberta afloat is the oil industry, if
>>it hasn't died by then. Do the experts have any guesses on when those oil
>>sands up north will run out at the current rate we're going?


The tar sands, if i remember correctly, are mainly located in the
Northwestern region of Alberta, which is in the territory of the Athabascan
council (which main export is petrolium products, as a matter of fact,
though certainly more from Alaska than from the Alberta fields). As a
note, Edmonton is located in the Athabaskan council too. The tar sands
fields have begun to be exploited in the recent years, and as the collecting
process is quite complicated (and slow), I would expect that a substancial
portion of the ressources are still unexploited in the 2050s. I would say
the same about the Albertan natural gas resources.

As for Alberta agriculture, I read somewhere in the NAN books that the
Awakening (or the Great Ghost Dance)have brought even more extreme weather
patterns in the Native lands, so rural life must be even more difficult.

_____________________________________________________

Philippe Garneau, a.k.a Filou
Bachelier en Sciences, Microbiologie

Godzilla lives again! -> Memorial Day, 1998
Message no. 7
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 17:59:02 -0600
At 13:16 04/05/98 -0600, you wrote:

>>Dead town, IMO. Most of Alberta is too rural to survive properly when
>>'artificial' food comes into play big time. The only thing that could
>>still bring it enough money to keep Alberta afloat is the oil industry, if
>>it hasn't died by then. Do the experts have any guesses on when those oil
>>sands up north will run out at the current rate we're going?
>
>no idea.. never really looked into it. Calgary does have more to it than
>just
>agriculture and oil, tho id be hard pressed to give any GOOD examples. :)

Err.. umm.. it does? ;) I know it's going a bit more hi-tech and from
checking a few places it appears to have plenty of computer jobs available,
but aside from that I can't think of anything major.

And just think -- if there's no agriculture and cattle, the rodeo goes,
too. Eek! ;)


>>last time I was up there Sentry Box had both NAN books in the used section.
>> Of course, that was several months ago, so who knows. I've never seen
>>anything for Calgary on the net, although I have considered doing it
>>myself, but certainly don't have the time now :/

>i figure that calgary would still be around, just not as 'industrial' or
>'commercial' as
>it is now. There are all sortsa 'spiritual' things about it.. one of the
>reasons it always
>gets a lot of supernatural attention in other RPGS (speciffically Beyond the
>Supernatural
>and Rifts), so shamantic mages might do stuff around here. And because its
>quite out of
>the way, it could make for decent secure areas for corp research.

That's a thought.. alot of the areas in southern Alberta have native
significance, although I imagine a fair amount of that is media bred.

It would certainly make an okay place to do corp research that needs to be
in sub-zero tempratures for too long each year :)

-Adam J
El Nino makes Alberta nice.
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http://www.interware.it/users/adamj \ fro@***.ab.ca \ ICQ# 2350330
ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader \ FreeRPG Webring \ TSS Productions
The Shadowrun Supplemental \ SR Archive Co-Maintainer \ RPGA Reviwer
Message no. 8
From: Lander Williams <lander@****.WAVE.CA>
Subject: Re: looking for info
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:46:59 -0600
>>no idea.. never really looked into it. Calgary does have more to it than
>>just
>>agriculture and oil, tho id be hard pressed to give any GOOD examples. :)
>
>Err.. umm.. it does? ;) I know it's going a bit more hi-tech and from
>checking a few places it appears to have plenty of computer jobs available,
>but aside from that I can't think of anything major.


well... uhm. a lota corps are moving there.. uhm.. <grasping at straws> the
movie industry is getting some attention too :)

>And just think -- if there's no agriculture and cattle, the rodeo goes,
>too. Eek! ;)


no more 'worlds most expensive outdoor show'?? too bad..

>>and Rifts), so shamantic mages might do stuff around here. And because its
>>quite out of
>>the way, it could make for decent secure areas for corp research.

>That's a thought.. alot of the areas in southern Alberta have native
>significance, although I imagine a fair amount of that is media bred.


<nods> or native bred, wanting to embaress the feds

>It would certainly make an okay place to do corp research that needs to be
>in sub-zero tempratures for too long each year :)


<g> i suppose that some corps could find some way to use the praries for
testing of new, tougher-breeding crops, or to hide biological and chemical
mistakes as well

>-Adam J
>El Nino makes Alberta nice.

hearhear!

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