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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Raul Morales)
Subject: Love and Metatypes
Date: Tue Oct 23 12:25:01 2001
>>Sure, sexual attraction isn't a simple thing. People can get it for women,
>>men, animals, inanimate things, anything. We're really not all that evolved
>>from the bonobos at all. I'd say that if someone goblinised then they'd
>>still be more attraced to humans, especially if they don't like their new
>>shape, though trolls probably won't go in much for other races because the
>>size differences would be a bit wierd, it'd be like having sex with a kid.
>>
>>
>I must disagree. I think it has been stated enough both directly and
>indirectly that those that are born meta or morph into meta not only go
>thru a physical change but a metnal one as well. If that wasnt the case
>how do you explain the dwarfs and orcs perfer to live underground, for
>example? Not very typical human nature. Thus, I dont think its a huge
>leap to say with that in mind that they also find their race generally
>more attractive then their former or other races. But as you also said
>there certainly would be exceptions and I dont think it would be
>realistic to say otherwise.
>But generally speaking along with there many mental alterations I think
>this would be one.

Actually i think I must disagree with harlequin, we must remember that no
matter which metatype you are into or the
mental changes you been through every character has a general human
behavior, and like humans every character may decide
they like a person from any metatype just "because", every person has
"quirks", little sparks of originality that forms the best of us,
So no matter what, maybe there's this little dwarf female just madly in
love with the BB Troll because of his way of doin' stuff or because
they have similar tastes on music and/or weapons, we can't say that an
individual from any metatype is "generally inclined" to anything,
maybe dwarfs and orks prefer to live underground 'cause their new vision
is hampered with sun-light, so actually i prefer to leave this kind of details
apart, Harlequin is right in a couple of things though, people who change
physically is never the same mentally or emotionally than before,
and if he/she was born into an specific metatype then his/her behavior is
more learned than controlled by his/her "urges".
And remember one lil'detail, our players are humans, so there's a fat
chance that they might *know* how does a troll or an ork actually think,
we must be tolerant with those details and leave them to the char, maybe he
will like or even despise the others who share his/her metatype!


ATT

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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Harlequin)
Subject: Love and Metatypes
Date: Tue Oct 23 13:05:00 2001
Raul Morales wrote:

>
> Actually i think I must disagree with harlequin, we must remember that
> no matter which metatype you are into or the
> mental changes you been through every character has a general human
> behavior, and like humans every character may decide
> they like a person from any metatype just "because", every person has
> "quirks", little sparks of originality that forms the best of us,
> So no matter what, maybe there's this little dwarf female just madly
> in love with the BB Troll because of his way of doin' stuff or because
> they have similar tastes on music and/or weapons, we can't say that an
> individual from any metatype is "generally inclined" to anything,
> maybe dwarfs and orks prefer to live underground 'cause their new
> vision is hampered with sun-light, so actually i prefer to leave this
> kind of details
> apart, Harlequin is right in a couple of things though, people who
> change physically is never the same mentally or emotionally than before,
> and if he/she was born into an specific metatype then his/her behavior
> is more learned than controlled by his/her "urges".
> And remember one lil'detail, our players are humans, so there's a fat
> chance that they might *know* how does a troll or an ork actually think,
> we must be tolerant with those details and leave them to the char,
> maybe he will like or even despise the others who share his/her metatype!
>
>
I think this whole 'There just humans with a different outward shell'
idea is wrong IMO. Thats seems what you are saying in a nutshell. I must
disagree. I feel enough has been said where not only do they do through
a drastic physical chnage but also mental. I am not saying different
racial romances dont develop. By your logic then all metas would just me
humans in a differnet skin. If that was the case the sucide rate would
be ENORMOUS! Imagie if you woke up tomorrow and were a ork witht eh same
mind set you have today. So you really think you'd want to live or look
at yourself the same way? Doubtful.

So thus it seems pretty obvious to me one must also have some amount of
mental changes as well which would really make sense. Also then why do
metas have mental mods to starting chars and not just physical?

Harle
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Bira)
Subject: Love and Metatypes
Date: Tue Oct 23 20:45:00 2001
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:08:15 -0400
Harlequin <harlequin@********.cncdsl.com> wrote:

>
> I think this whole 'There just humans with a different outward shell'
> idea is wrong IMO.

However, that's what most of the books seem to say.

> Thats seems what you are saying in a nutshell. I must
> disagree. I feel enough has been said where not only do they do through
> a drastic physical chnage but also mental. I am not saying different
> racial romances dont develop. By your logic then all metas would just me
> humans in a differnet skin. If that was the case the sucide rate would
> be ENORMOUS! Imagie if you woke up tomorrow and were a ork witht eh same
> mind set you have today. So you really think you'd want to live or look
> at yourself the same way? Doubtful.

I imagine the suicide rate was quite large during the early period of
Goblinization. But it's not common anymore - when it happens, the "victims"
usually have plenty of forewarning, and most of the "originals" who are still
alive have gotten used to it anyway.


--
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