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Message no. 1
From: Wafflemeisters <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Mages and Space (that little empty spcae....)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:43:20 -0500
> |> high demand amongst the farming community. A Castrate spell would
> |> be clean, simple and fast with no risk of infection etc...
> |>
> |> Not to mention excellent for intimidation purposes. :-)
> |
> |Yes, but how are you going to prove you have it?
>
> "You see that dog over there...?" >>>CASTRATE<<<
> "Next time, that's you!"

Clean, simple, and fast is the LAST thing you want for intimidation-
a clumsy female troll samuri with a set of hand razors and a biotech
chip (low rating, preferably) would be much worse.

If that kind of thing worries you. Hormone shots can replace the
function, cloning can replace the organs, and surgery can improve both.
Do you really think mutilation is gonna get you very far as an
interrogation technique in SR, at least with anybody who really has
something worth hiding? Sure, your punk on the street is scared, but
he's a pushover anyhow.

Maybe I'm just a little less "anxious" than most, but I can't see
this bothering any character whose already had his entire reflex and
endochrinal system re-done.

-Mongoose
Message no. 2
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Mages and Space (that little empty spcae....)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:01:10 -0400
Mongoose wrote:
>> |> high demand amongst the farming community. A Castrate spell would
>> |> be clean, simple and fast with no risk of infection etc...
>> |>
>> |> Not to mention excellent for intimidation purposes. :-)
[snip]
> Clean, simple, and fast is the LAST thing you want for intimidation-
>a clumsy female troll samuri with a set of hand razors and a biotech
>chip (low rating, preferably) would be much worse.

Well, faster than herding up the sheep, locking it in some device and
snipping manually. Much easier to just look at the sheep. The
speed of the operation isn't that much of a factor in intimidation -
you can't get much quicker than a gunshot. OK, it's not much for
*torture*, but that's a whole different subject.
>
> If that kind of thing worries you. Hormone shots can replace the
>function, cloning can replace the organs, and surgery can improve both.

Depends on the spell. Besides, they wouldn't be *original*. :-)

>Do you really think mutilation is gonna get you very far as an
>interrogation technique in SR, at least with anybody who really has
>something worth hiding? Sure, your punk on the street is scared, but
>he's a pushover anyhow.

It makes for much more... interesting roleplaying sequences. Yeah,
you could just make an intimidation roll and get the info but some
of us are sadistic bastards who like to make (N)PCs squirm. :-)
>
> Maybe I'm just a little less "anxious" than most, but I can't see
>this bothering any character whose already had his entire reflex and
>endochrinal system re-done.

I wouldn't want to have my hand removed even if I knew I could get
it replaced - it just wouldn't be *mine*. Getting your reflexes
rewired is different - it's an improvement, not a replacement.
Besides, psycho combat gods are pretty tough to intimidate anyhow.
Mind Probe is much easier. Not as much fun, but easier. :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Mages and Space (that little empty spcae....)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:15:02 +0100
And verily, did Wafflemeisters hastily scribble thusly...
|> "You see that dog over there...?" >>>CASTRATE<<<
|> "Next time, that's you!"
|
| Clean, simple, and fast is the LAST thing you want for intimidation-
|a clumsy female troll samuri with a set of hand razors and a biotech
|chip (low rating, preferably) would be much worse.

Hey, no-one said that the intimidation version of the spell (as opposed to
the utilitarian one) had to be painless.....

<EGMG>

| If that kind of thing worries you. Hormone shots can replace the
|function, cloning can replace the organs, and surgery can improve both.
|Do you really think mutilation is gonna get you very far as an
|interrogation technique in SR, at least with anybody who really has
|something worth hiding? Sure, your punk on the street is scared, but
|he's a pushover anyhow.

How about a permanent manipulation spell that not only removed the
genitalia, but also alters the victims DNA slightly, so that it thinks he
never had one?

<EEGMG>
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Message no. 4
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mages and Space (that little empty spcae....)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:40:39 -0500
>
> And verily, did Wafflemeisters hastily scribble thusly...
> |> "You see that dog over there...?" >>>CASTRATE<<<
> |> "Next time, that's you!"
> |
> | Clean, simple, and fast is the LAST thing you want for intimidation-
> |a clumsy female troll samuri with a set of hand razors and a biotech
> |chip (low rating, preferably) would be much worse.
>
> Hey, no-one said that the intimidation version of the spell (as opposed to
> the utilitarian one) had to be painless.....
>
> <EGMG>
>
> | If that kind of thing worries you. Hormone shots can replace the
> |function, cloning can replace the organs, and surgery can improve both.
> |Do you really think mutilation is gonna get you very far as an
> |interrogation technique in SR, at least with anybody who really has
> |something worth hiding? Sure, your punk on the street is scared, but
> |he's a pushover anyhow.
>
> How about a permanent manipulation spell that not only removed the
> genitalia, but also alters the victims DNA slightly, so that it thinks he
> never had one?
>
> <EEGMG>
Evil sick and twisted, and most likely impossible (the dna part I mean).
But an A+ for creativity in my book. :)

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