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Message no. 1
From: "Fisher, Victor" <Victor-Fisher@******.COM>
Subject: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:15:42 -0400
Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.

Victor

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BOOM stick!'
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Message no. 2
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:37:53 +0000
On 3 Jul 97 at 17:15, Fisher, Victor wrote:

> Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
> drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
> campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
> drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.
>
> Victor

Good point. I couldn't agree more.

And by the way, Victor, no '>' this time.

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Message no. 3
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:01:58 -0400
At 05:37 PM 7/3/97 +0000, you wrote:
>On 3 Jul 97 at 17:15, Fisher, Victor wrote:
>
>> Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
>> drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
>> campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
>> drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.

Because a gm has to deal with whiners who can't grasp his/her reasons behind
why he/she belives in the lethality rules.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 4
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:16:38 -0600
At 18:01 7/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>> Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
>>> drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
>>> campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
>>> drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.
>
>Because a gm has to deal with whiners who can't grasp his/her reasons behind
>why he/she belives in the lethality rules.

Then you pistol whip the bastard, and explain to him the rules work both
ways, by pistol whipping some poor ganger punk as an example.
The rules ALL work both ways!

-Aj
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Message no. 5
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 18:29:18 +0500
On 3 Jul 97 at 18:01, NightLife wrote:

> Because a gm has to deal with whiners who can't grasp his/her
> reasons behind why he/she belives in the lethality rules.

GM's have to deal with whiner's no matter what, unless you are lucky.
Again, that is no reason to change the rules.

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Message no. 6
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:46:14 -0400
>GM's have to deal with whiner's no matter what, unless you are lucky.
>Again, that is no reason to change the rules.

You play more than you gm don't you? Aside from physical violence it's not
that easy to shut someone up when they've think they've got something in
black and white and it's official.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 7
From: "Bruce H. Nagel" <NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:21:37 -0500
You wrote:
> Because a gm has to deal with whiners who can't grasp his/her reasons behind
> why he/she belives in the lethality rules.
It's not our problem if your PCs are whiners, nor if anyone else's are whiners.
Anyone starts giving me crap over my decisions of how to play, I tell them they
can try running instead. This isn't a reason to change the rules, imo. If you
explain to your PCs why you're doing it, and they don't agree, they don't
*have* to play, y'know. There's always Monopoly.

losthalo
Message no. 8
From: Greg Childress <greg@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:48:40 -0400
At 05:15 PM 7/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
>drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
>campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
>drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.
>
>Victor

Because we're discussing the rules for SRIII


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Message no. 9
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:55:26 -0700
| > Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
| >drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
| >campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
| >drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.
| >
| >Victor
|
| Because we're discussing the rules for SRIII

Because Greg, Steve K. asked how we felt about the drain of spells and what
the "default" should be F/2 or F. Since then Nightlife and Myself among
others have been discussing it, with what I would like to believe are
legitimate points on both sides...Steve asked for reasons and gosh durnit
Nightlife and I gave 'em some. :)

-Caric

"These pretzels are MAKING ME THIRSTY!!!!!"
Message no. 10
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:18:39 -0400
> Since then Nightlife and Myself among
>others have been discussing it, with what I would like to believe are
>legitimate points on both sides...Steve asked for reasons and gosh durnit
>Nightlife and I gave 'em some. :)

Damn right ;-)

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 11
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 23:01:38 +0500
On 3 Jul 97 at 18:46, NightLife wrote:

> >GM's have to deal with whiner's no matter what, unless you are lucky.
> >Again, that is no reason to change the rules.
>
> You play more than you gm don't you? Aside from physical violence
> it's not that easy to shut someone up when they've think they've got
> something in black and white and it's official.

Actually, nope, I have always GM'ed. Never had the occassion to play,
except in PBEM games. Whiners usually get shone to the door if they
disrupt play too much. There is no reason to tolerate that or any
disruption of your game.

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Message no. 12
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:28:30 -0400
>Actually, nope, I have always GM'ed. Never had the occassion to play,
>except in PBEM games. Whiners usually get shone to the door if they
>disrupt play too much. There is no reason to tolerate that or any
>disruption of your game.

Later when he's back I'll have my co-gm fill you in on how much I've had to
tolerate lately.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 13
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:03:39 +0500
On 3 Jul 97 at 23:28, NightLife wrote:

> >Actually, nope, I have always GM'ed. Never had the occassion to play,
> >except in PBEM games. Whiners usually get shone to the door if they
> >disrupt play too much. There is no reason to tolerate that or any
> >disruption of your game.
>
> Later when he's back I'll have my co-gm fill you in on how much I've
> had to tolerate lately.
>

Had to? Why? You don't live on an island. Get rid of the problem and
find new players. If the whiner wants to play with your group, he
will learn to keep his mouth shut.

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Message no. 14
From: Greg Childress <greg@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:11:42 -0400
At 07:55 PM 7/3/97 -0400, Caric wrote:
>| > Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
>| >drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits their
>| >campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on what
>| >drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.
>| >
>| >Victor
>|
>| Because we're discussing the rules for SRIII
>
>Because Greg, Steve K. asked how we felt about the drain of spells and what
>the "default" should be F/2 or F. Since then Nightlife and Myself among
>others have been discussing it, with what I would like to believe are
>legitimate points on both sides...Steve asked for reasons and gosh durnit
>Nightlife and I gave 'em some. :)
>
Huh?
I thought I was involved in this discussion already, are my posts getting
through?
I was just clarifying for Victor why we were discussing this; or more
accurately why I am involved in discussing this. In cases like the F
vs.F/2 debate I would normally take the position that it doesn't matter,
use whatever makes you happy, then I wouldn't have to stress over
nightlife's insistence that mages take damage every time they cast a spell
;-> That's why, although I've been on the list for like two years now I
hardly ever post.

Geez I'm feeling sorta invisible...

<greg>
(s)He seems to have an invisible touch,
yeah!

P.S. I just got my draft of the SR Origins
tournament and, hoo boy...
Message no. 15
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:23:28 -0400
>Had to? Why?

I was trying to be a nice guy.

> You don't live on an island. Get rid of the problem and
>find new players.

That's what I had to do.

>If the whiner wants to play with your group, he
>will learn to keep his mouth shut.

Actually he didn't he organized a little conspiracy behind my back
thankfully my loyalists made me aware of this before it was to late.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 16
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:30:45 -0400
> I would normally take the position that it doesn't matter,
>use whatever makes you happy, then I wouldn't have to stress over
>nightlife's insistence that mages take damage every time they cast a spell
>;->

At last a smiley. No I'm stressing drain not damage. Stun doesn't equal damage.

That's why, although I've been on the list for like two years now I
>hardly ever post.

Hmm sounds like a complex. ;-) BTW I just heard a great line on the tube.

Greg don't worry we'll cover for you you can plead insanity.

Yeah I hear Van Gogh did some of his best work in a asylum.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 17
From: "... ..." <Brother-1@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:13:56 -1000
>It's not that easy to shut someone up...
If you're gming and someone is whining about rules that are in black and
white and therefore "official" just tell him that it's your game and if
they don't like the rules you'll take your books and go home.
Message no. 18
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:54:44 +0500
On 4 Jul 97 at 0:30, NightLife wrote:

> At last a smiley. No I'm stressing drain not damage. Stun doesn't
> equal damage.

It doesn't? Then why are there target number mods?

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Message no. 19
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:03:14 +0500
On 4 Jul 97 at 0:23, NightLife wrote:

> >Had to? Why?
>
> I was trying to be a nice guy.

Well, there is a lot to be said for that. But after awhile, it ruins
everyone's fun, especially yours.

> > You don't live on an island. Get rid of the problem and
> >find new players.
>
> That's what I had to do.

It sucks at first, but things are ok now, neh?

> >If the whiner wants to play with your group, he
> >will learn to keep his mouth shut.
>
> Actually he didn't he organized a little conspiracy behind my back
> thankfully my loyalists made me aware of this before it was to late.

Oh yeah, I remember you talking about that. IMHO, that player had
serious mental instability, How did that turn out, BTW? Did
everything work out?

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Message no. 20
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:13:45 +0100
|
|On 4 Jul 97 at 0:30, NightLife wrote:
|
|> At last a smiley. No I'm stressing drain not damage. Stun doesn't
|> equal damage.
|
|It doesn't? Then why are there target number mods?

And why does punching someone in the face do STUN?

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Message no. 21
From: Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:14:27 -0700
NightLife wrote:
>
> At 05:37 PM 7/3/97 +0000, you wrote:
> >On 3 Jul 97 at 17:15, Fisher, Victor wrote:
> >
> >> Why doesn't everyone just use the Increased Lethality Rules for
> >> drain, listed in the Shadowrun, 2nd edition rule book, IF it suits
> their
> >> campaign, instead of trying to enforce a system wide moritorium on
> what
> >> drain should be? I thought that's what they were there for.
>
> Because a gm has to deal with whiners who can't grasp his/her reasons
> behind
> why he/she belives in the lethality rules.

If a GM can't set ground rules, then I think the GM shouldn't be.

My players, desipte their many failings, whining amongst them, don't
argue with my interpretation of the how letha the game is. It's *my*
world they are playing in. If they didn't like it, they'd play with
someone else.

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Message no. 22
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:22:12 -0400
>It doesn't? Then why are there target number mods?

Becuase you're fatigued. You however aren't two steps away from deaths door
just working on being unconsious.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 23
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:27:13 -0400
>It sucks at first, but things are ok now, neh?

Almost. They've been replaced it remains to be seen if the new guys are any
better.

>Oh yeah, I remember you talking about that. IMHO, that player had
>serious mental instability, How did that turn out, BTW? Did
>everything work out?

It turned out that he got torked then his buddy got torked, then onto e-mail
harrassment again with finally his buddy telling me to F-off. Hopefully now
theyre gone for good. Sorry for going off on you and a couple of others in
this debate though I've had a lousy week. But on the bright side I just
turned 24 as of 25 minutes ago.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 24
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:50:45 -0400
>If a GM can't set ground rules, then I think the GM shouldn't be.

If a Gm was trying to be a nice guy and a peace keeper he might have a bit
of troublw with people who want their way.

>My players, desipte their many failings, whining amongst them, don't
>argue with my interpretation of the how letha the game is. It's *my*
>world they are playing in. If they didn't like it, they'd play with
>someone else.

Lucky you.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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Message no. 25
From: "Bruce H. Nagel" <NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:04:20 -0500
You wrote:
> >If a GM can't set ground rules, then I think the GM shouldn't be.

> If a Gm was trying to be a nice guy and a peace keeper he might have a bit
> of troublw with people who want their way.

> >My players, desipte their many failings, whining amongst them, don't
> >argue with my interpretation of the how letha the game is. It's *my*
> >world they are playing in. If they didn't like it, they'd play with
> >someone else.

> Lucky you.

Sorry to hear you have trouble with your players, but the game system doesn't
need to change to reflect that, does it? Wasn't that where this thread
started, the SR3 rules?

losthalo
Message no. 26
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:03:10 -0700
| >If the whiner wants to play with your group, he
| >will learn to keep his mouth shut.
|
| Actually he didn't he organized a little conspiracy behind my back
| thankfully my loyalists made me aware of this before it was to late.

For some reason this made me laugh really hard. :)
I can just see a man dressed in black coming to Nightlife and they would be
calling each other "Patriot," and such. Sorry the loyalist part just got
to me. =)

Proceed.

-Caric

"These pretzels are MAKING ME THIRSTY!!!!!"
Message no. 27
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:00:29 -0700
| Huh?
| I thought I was involved in this discussion already, are my posts getting
| through?

Sorry about that Greg my faux pas (uh huhuhuh I said faux pas) I was in
such a hurry to keep up with the mail that I misunderstood who was asking
the question...sorry 'bout that.

| I was just clarifying for Victor why we were discussing this; or more
| accurately why I am involved in discussing this. In cases like the F
| vs.F/2 debate I would normally take the position that it doesn't matter,
| use whatever makes you happy, then I wouldn't have to stress over
| nightlife's insistence that mages take damage every time they cast a
spell
| ;-> That's why, although I've been on the list for like two years now I
| hardly ever post.

That's what I was trying to do also, just in a more roundabout way. =)

| Geez I'm feeling sorta invisible...

Anyone else hear that? <grin>

-Caric

"These pretzels are MAKING ME THIRSTY!!!!!"
Message no. 28
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:29:54 -0700
| It turned out that he got torked then his buddy got torked, then onto
e-mail
| harrassment again with finally his buddy telling me to F-off. Hopefully
now
| theyre gone for good. Sorry for going off on you and a couple of others
in
| this debate though I've had a lousy week. But on the bright side I just
| turned 24 as of 25 minutes ago.

Happy Birthday Nightlife...if you make it to the con I owe you a drink.

-Caric

"These pretzels are MAKING ME THIRSTY!!!!!"
Message no. 29
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical drain
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:03:46 -0400
>For some reason this made me laugh really hard. :)
>I can just see a man dressed in black coming to Nightlife and they would be
>calling each other "Patriot," and such. Sorry the loyalist part just got
>to me. =)
>
>Proceed.

Well if the CIA everm offered me a black suit, shades ,and the tie I'd take
them.

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YES and my followers will be legion! The world will be mine
"SO SWEARS THE LEADER!"
All will bow before my might and bask in my radience. Kneel before you lord
and master. Kiss the ruby ring of power and cower before me.


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