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Message no. 1
From: "Paolo Marcucci" <paolo@*********.it>
Subject: Magic and adepts
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:05:24 +0200
So, it's time for me too to join the magic debate..:)

In Awakenings, a runner comments that a mage can ground a spell through an
astral perceiving adept.

But, when you astral perceive, don't you just shift your perceptions not
making you this way more astral detectable? Or not?

The answer is to the list.

Bye, Paolo
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Message no. 2
From: Joel Nesbitt <joel.nesbitt@******.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Magic and adepts
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:33:47 +0100 (BST)
On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Paolo Marcucci wrote:

> So, it's time for me too to join the magic debate..:)
>
> In Awakenings, a runner comments that a mage can ground a spell through an
> astral perceiving adept.
>
> But, when you astral perceive, don't you just shift your perceptions not
> making you this way more astral detectable? Or not?

I thought that an astal perceiver was effectively dual-natured. You
_are_ vulnerable to astral attack whilst perceiving.


* Joel Nesbitt, Exeter College, Oxford *
* "I hummed this tune to all the girls I'd known, *
* Should I care about the chances I've blown?" *
Message no. 3
From: Jeff Perrin <jperrin@*********.net>
Subject: Re: Magic and adepts
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:44:16 -0400
Joel Nesbitt wrote:
> I thought that an astal perceiver was effectively dual-natured. You
> _are_ vulnerable to astral attack whilst perceiving.

that is at least the rules stated in either the main book or in grimoire
II

Luc aka BobW
Message no. 4
From: Faux Pas <fauxpas@******.net>
Subject: Re: Magic and adepts
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:34:51 -0500
At 05:33 PM 6/11/96 +0100, you wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Paolo Marcucci wrote:
>>
>> But, when you astral perceive, don't you just shift your perceptions not
>> making you this way more astral detectable? Or not?
>
>I thought that an astal perceiver was effectively dual-natured. You
>_are_ vulnerable to astral attack whilst perceiving.
>
According to the SR2 main rule book: "The act of astrally perceiving opens
the magician's own aura to astral space, making it vulnerable to attack. As
stated previously, astrally perceiving characters are vulnerable to astral
combat. They can also be directly affected by mana spells, and physical
spells can be cast to ground-out through them." p 146.

-Thomas Deeny
Cartoonist At Large

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jet pilot."
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Medieval Horror]_
Message no. 5
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Magic and adepts
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:59:45 -0400 (EDT)
At 05:05 PM 6/11/96 +0200, you wrote:

>So, it's time for me too to join the magic debate..:)

Dooh!

>In Awakenings, a runner comments that a mage can ground a spell through an
>astral perceiving adept.
>
>But, when you astral perceive, don't you just shift your perceptions not
>making you this way more astral detectable? Or not?

When you assense, you become dual-natured. This is why one can ground spells
thru an active focus but not a sustained spell. *grin*

--
"I remember my first sexual encounter because I kept the recipe."
- Jeff Dahmer
Message no. 6
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Magic and adepts
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:28:37 +0100
Paolo Marcucci said on 17:05/11 Jun 96...

> In Awakenings, a runner comments that a mage can ground a spell through an
> astral perceiving adept.
>
> But, when you astral perceive, don't you just shift your perceptions not
> making you this way more astral detectable? Or not?

You make yourself susceptible to astral combat if you're astrally
perceiving, so you can be ground through as well: like a manifest spirit,
you form a bridge between the astral and physical planes. If some mage
spots you from astral space, he can whack a spell through you to hit
anyone closeby (if it's area-effect, anyway :).

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Message no. 7
From: "Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Magic and adepts
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:30:42 GMT
> From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
>
> >In Awakenings, a runner comments that a mage can ground a spell through an
> >astral perceiving adept.
> >
> >But, when you astral perceive, don't you just shift your perceptions not
> >making you this way more astral detectable? Or not?
>
> When you assense, you become dual-natured. This is why one can ground spells
> thru an active focus but not a sustained spell. *grin*
>
Its a bit more somplex than that details later i've been doing some
rulebook assisted research.

Mark

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