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Message no. 1
From: rothgefa@*******.com (Robert Fanning)
Subject: Magic fingers and phsyads firing 4 guns
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:43:49 +1000
I would think that you would have to have some sort of conscious control
over the spell, so you would cop at least the penalties firing blind or
sustaining multiple spells, unless you have a gun cam and a smartlink
running through the datajack (and then it would be the same as independent
cybereyes.

Failing that, I suppose you could have a number of grenades "orbiting" the
character, which get dropped or thrown on command. At the very least, you
could reload the two pistols held in the hands as a free action.

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Message no. 2
From: zebulingod@*******.net (zebulingod)
Subject: Magic fingers and phsyads firing 4 guns
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:51:54 -0800
Robert Fanning wrote:
> Subject: Magic fingers and phsyads firing 4 guns
>
> I would think that you would have to have some sort of
> conscious control over the spell, so you would cop at least
> the penalties firing blind or sustaining multiple spells,
> unless you have a gun cam and a smartlink running through the
> datajack (and then it would be the same as independent cybereyes.
>
> Failing that, I suppose you could have a number of grenades
> "orbiting" the character, which get dropped or thrown on
> command. At the very least, you could reload the two pistols
> held in the hands as a free action.
>
> <@^@> put "Hey Robert!" (without quotes) in the subject line
> to bypass my junk mail filter and do not mention any sort of
> word associated with commercial transactions.
>

Well, see, my problem lies within the Suppression Fire rule as combined with
this. (See my previous mail about the rules for that.) Aside from that, as
the mage in my group already said (in horror, actually) is that, while it
may be in the rules, it goes against the spirit of them. Sustaining four
spells would make all of your TN#s +8, so actually trying to hit anything
with them would be nearly impossible. I like the idea of the grenades,
though... I might have to use that.

In the last mission, one of the characters had some grenades whose pins were
plucked using Magic Fingers. He complained that they were strapped into his
combat vest, and so the spoons couldn't fly off. (Since I'm not in the
military, I had no way of knowing if that is true or not, but I gave it to
him.) The next action, one of the bad guys hit him with freeze foam which
effectively stopped him from getting rid of the grenades.

I guess my point is that the spell is kinda neat, as long as someone doesn't
go too far with it, but it's up to the GM/players to decide what "too far"
means.

Zebulin

"Per Ardua ad Astra"
Message no. 3
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Magic fingers and phsyads firing 4 guns
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:27:17 +0100
According to zebulingod, on Friday 30 January 2004 06:51 the word on the
street was...

> In the last mission, one of the characters had some grenades whose pins
> were plucked using Magic Fingers. He complained that they were strapped
> into his combat vest, and so the spoons couldn't fly off. (Since I'm not
> in the military, I had no way of knowing if that is true or not, but I
> gave it to him.)

Depends on how the web gear is set up, really. With current US web gear
(which is probably what your player was thinking of) it's likely that he's
right. OTOH there are plenty of possibilities for grenades that are
properly carried in web gear to be detonated like this anyway, I'd think.
It's a GM call, IOW.

> I guess my point is that the spell is kinda neat, as long as someone
> doesn't go too far with it, but it's up to the GM/players to decide what
> "too far" means.

Oh, the joys of having a GM who's reasonably new to GMing SR... Half the
time our characters do things, he whines about how we seem to be too
powerful... :) Just because I cast Control Thoughts on a semi-hostile gang
boss to make him let us walk away, or we open up with an assault rifle on
a bunch of bad guys...

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Message no. 4
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: Magic fingers and phsyads firing 4 guns
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:47:23 +0100
Gurth wrote :
>> In the last mission, one of the characters had some grenades whose
>> pins
>> were plucked using Magic Fingers. He complained that they were
>> strapped
>> into his combat vest, and so the spoons couldn't fly off. (Since I'm
>> not
>> in the military, I had no way of knowing if that is true or not, but I
>> gave it to him.)
>
> Depends on how the web gear is set up, really. With current US web gear
> (which is probably what your player was thinking of) it's likely that
> he's
> right. OTOH there are plenty of possibilities for grenades that are
> properly carried in web gear to be detonated like this anyway, I'd
> think.
> It's a GM call, IOW.

In any case, the Magic Fingers user could as well have made the
grenades fall to the floor while he was at it...

> Oh, the joys of having a GM who's reasonably new to GMing SR... Half
> the
> time our characters do things, he whines about how we seem to be too
> powerful... :) Just because I cast Control Thoughts on a semi-hostile
> gang
> boss to make him let us walk away, or we open up with an assault rifle
> on
> a bunch of bad guys...

These things can also happen with an experienced GM who's discovering
a particular facet of the game... For example, rigging. I've already
told you about that time where I downed fifteen people in one
initiative pass against TNs of 3, haven't I?

-- Wild_Cat
maxnoel_fr@*****.fr -- ICQ #85274019
"Look at you hacker... A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting
and sweating as you run through my corridors... How can you challenge a
perfect, immortal machine?"

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