| From: | Brian Johnson <john0375@****.TC.UMN.EDU> |
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| Subject: | magic marbles/spells (now shorter!) |
| Date: | Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:23:06 -0600 |
> A good question on this point is 'can you detect spell locks with a
> 'detect magic' spell even if they are masked?'
I'd say yes. It's not really possible to change the nature of something
using masking, just make it harder to 'see/detect' Like, If you're a
magician, when you mask your aura, you still scan as a human/whatever.
Even when you mask your aura, your basic appearance (alive, human) does
not change, so when you mask a focus, uh--it's hard to see, but it is
still a focus for the purposes of a detect spell. It's a way to
circumvent the process.
> > > of a[] phone or radio circuit, up to 10+ Km you get your mage back in
> > > about 1 round if you need him, and 100 is still under a minute! don't
> > > you like astral fast speed.
> >
> > Hmmm. 6000 kmh? 100 km/minute? ok. Magic 6, though. And 1 round is 3
> > seconds, 10 km is six seconds. Nice math.
> >
> its magic attribute * 1000m (ie 1km) per complex action.
> on int*2 + 15 +1D6 + grade that should be 3/round or typically
> 6Km/second, orbital velocity is only about 11km/second! or so (round
> the globe in 90 minutes)
Okay, I get you, but isn't that a change from [never mind you just said
you don't have sr1] (I'll have to look this up)
> > Grounding...
[snip]
> > I don't think so. Any spell sent at a projecting magician can ground.
> > The magician's astral body constitutes the link from physical to
> > astral. [Since the magician can track down their own physical body if it
> > has been moved, I'd argue there is a link.] All you need to see is the
> > magician's astral body. No focus is needed, as the magician IS the
> > focus. The whole 'grounding through a focus' bit is when the magician
> > is NOT using astral projection/perception. If they are, the spell can
> > ground through their 'body' instead of a focus.
> >
> And last point.
>
> It states in the rules that to affect something with a combat spell
> 'You MUST be able to see it', on no occasion i know of does it say
My take:
What is meant by 'see' is see in astral space, i.e., the focus, astral
body, etc. If the guy is invisible, you should still be able to nail the
focus, as there is no such thing as 'astral invisibility' spells look
like spells, so a spell granting such invisibility would look like a
giant, easily distinguishable spell with a nice 'invisible' lable on it,
wrapped around a warm, gooey center with the 'human' sticker on it.
maybe I'm drifting off the point.
> grounding breaks this rule. Yes the spell hits the magicians astral
> aura and grounds into his physical body, sure, but unless the caster
> can also see the magicians physical body that as far as it gets. Yes
> you can ground through a magicians astral form, but unless you can
> also see his/her physical form the spell only hurts the magician you
> grounded it through. [well thats how i read the rules, you can read
> them other ways but i have yet to see a rule that says i'm wrong and
> the LOS one says i'm right]
I'd agree with all this above, except in the case of an AREA spell,
which well, somewhere out there was dealt with in the rules. See SR2,
grounding, and look for the words 'area spell' That's where it gets
nasty. Otherwise I'd agree, the spell can only affect (effect?) the
person or magician holding the focus/ spell lock and the
focus/spell lock itself, which is destroyed if the [combat] spell
grounds.
I guess I'd also modify the bit about physical spell required, too,
because the spell was required to be physical based on attacking a focus,
which wouldn't be affected by mana spells. So any combat spell (optional
area affect) can ground if cast at a magician projecting in astral space.
