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Message no. 1
From: Brett Borger <SwiftOne@***.EDU>
Subject: Mana Barrier
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 00:04:34 GMT
Okay, I've never been a good one when it comes to grounding, so bear with me
(this isn't a grounding question, just a funky one)

[inspired by an off-the hand comment in another thread]

Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?

If so, would it stay when you went physical?

(Note: I'd say no, you couldn't, but I'm hard pressed to justify it)

(Note2: say, did anyone think to mention this in the FAB debate? When you
(physical and astral[passive]) hit a Mana barrier (astral[active],
considered "immovable") You bounce, not it.....thus lending strength to the
"i'd support a net and be crushed bya ten ton FAB" arguement....not that I
want to inflict that on all of you....)

(Note3: I don't suppose there are any list logs before the switch to Itribe?)

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 2
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:13:14 -0700
> Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?

Sure yopu can cast it, but you can't sustain it so what is the point.

> If so, would it stay when you went physical?

Irrelevant.

> (Note: I'd say no, you couldn't, but I'm hard pressed to justify it)

See above. =)

> (Note2: say, did anyone think to mention this in the FAB debate? When
you
> (physical and astral[passive]) hit a Mana barrier (astral[active],
> considered "immovable") You bounce, not it.....thus lending strength to
the
> "i'd support a net and be crushed bya ten ton FAB" arguement....not that
I
> want to inflict that on all of you....)

/ignore anything with FAB in it.


Whew! Barely got that switch in. ;)

-Caric

"One cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."
-Albert Einstein
Message no. 3
From: Brett Borger <SwiftOne@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 00:27:21 GMT
>> Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?
>Sure yopu can cast it, but you can't sustain it so what is the point.

So would you allow an "instantaneous" casting that could, say....bounce a
bike rider?
Or maybe just deflect him a little?

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <SwiftOne@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 00:27:21 GMT
>Sure yopu can cast it, but you can't sustain it so what is the point.

could you activate an Anchor that could do it? (i.e. Activate it while in
Astral space.....)

This has some nasty consequences....

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 5
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:42:04 -0700
---Brett Borger wrote:
>
> Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?
>
> If so, would it stay when you went physical?
>
> (Note: I'd say no, you couldn't, but I'm hard pressed to justify it)
>
> (Note2: say, did anyone think to mention this in the FAB debate?
When you
> (physical and astral[passive]) hit a Mana barrier (astral[active],
> considered "immovable") You bounce, not it.....thus lending strength
to the
> "i'd support a net and be crushed bya ten ton FAB" arguement....not
that I
> want to inflict that on all of you....)
>
> (Note3: I don't suppose there are any list logs before the switch to
Itribe?)
>
> -=SwiftOne=-

You couldn't sustain the spell while astrally projecting, so what
would be the point?

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Message no. 6
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:02:21 -0700
---Brett Borger wrote:
>
> >> Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?
> >Sure yopu can cast it, but you can't sustain it so what is the
point.
>
> So would you allow an "instantaneous" casting that could,
say....bounce a
> bike rider?
> Or maybe just deflect him a little?
>
> -=SwiftOne=-

Nope. Besides, I'd say this falls under the blanket rule that a
projecting mage cannot affect the physical plane. ;o)

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Message no. 7
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:11:33 GMT
Brett Borger writes
>
> Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?
>
Yes but sustaining it could be touch difficult :)

>
> (Note2: say, did anyone think to mention this in the FAB debate? When you
> (physical and astral[passive])
eg like a mundane.

> hit a Mana barrier (astral[active],
> considered "immovable") You bounce, not it
See the ganger on motorbike example SR2.
Correct assuming the barrier survives the collision (barrier damage
rules apply)

>.....thus lending strength to the
> "i'd support a net and be crushed bya ten ton FAB" arguement....not that I
> want to inflict that on all of you....)
>
:)

Mark
Message no. 8
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:15:22 GMT
Brett Borger writes

> >Sure yopu can cast it, but you can't sustain it so what is the point.
>
> could you activate an Anchor that could do it? (i.e. Activate it while in
> Astral space.....)
>
You need to have the Anchoring object with you to anchor, though the
astral form of said object if it was a focus might do.
Anchoring does not involve sustaining the spell yourself it simply
adds a complex action/link to casting times soa temporal link might
work.

The old fashioned method is a handy Earth elemental (manipulation
spell) told before hand to step in and sustain the spell you are
about to cast.

> This has some nasty consequences....
>
:)

Mark
Message no. 9
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Mana Barrier
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 14:29:52 +0100
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Caric wrote:

> > Can you cast Mana Barrier while astrally projecting?
>
> Sure yopu can cast it, but you can't sustain it so what is the point.

A house rule that I'm thinking about is to allow spells to be sustained in
astral space but only so long as they effect astral space (due to the lack
of their body the astral mage cannot calibrate the spell to cross the
Divide into the physical plane. Likewise I'd allow spells to be cast which
only affect astral space (one good reason to have a spirit barrier or the
like).

Maybe the GM could allow spells whihc normally inlfuence both astral and
physical planes, eg Mana barriers, to affect only teh astral plane (thus
allowing them to be sustained) this may incur a +2-4 TN penalty depedning
on teh GM.

The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell - mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it"
-Rush, Losing It

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