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Message no. 1
From: 92804168@***.UWPLATT.EDU
Subject: Masking and quickenings
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 17:42:00 CST
Ok, as I understand it, an Initiate can use masking to make themselves appear
as a mundane, a normal mage, or they can appear as their true selves, an

Initiate. Now, I have a question: what happens to their quickened spells if
they are masked? Do they a) still show up as quickened spells "oh that? my
friend Sarkon cast it on me. Really", b) as a spell lock, c) as some
"unidentified" source of the spell, or d) not at all (i.e. you cannot tell
they have quickened spells if they are masked).

If there is an actual rule on this, please quote me a page number. If it is
in the Grim II, please summarise the rule, as I do not have the Grim II.
And if you simply have an opinion, please post it so I can get some ideas.

--Dave
92804168@***.uwplatt.edu
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Message no. 2
From: Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Masking and quickenings
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 11:17:45 EDT
>>>>> "Dave" == 92804168 <92804168@***.uwplatt.edu> writes:

Dave> Ok, as I understand it, an Initiate can use masking to make
Dave> themselves appear as a mundane, a normal mage, or they can appear as
Dave> their true selves, an Initiate.

Just to clarify, they are masking their personal aura to look like
something else.

Dave> Now, I have a question: what happens to their quickened spells if
Dave> they are masked? Do they a) still show up as quickened spells "oh
Dave> that? my friend Sarkon cast it on me. Really", b) as a spell lock, c)
Dave> as some "unidentified" source of the spell, or d) not at all (i.e.
Dave> you cannot tell they have quickened spells if they are masked).

A: they look like any other quickened spells. As I said, masking affects
the mage's *personal* aura, not the aura of anything he's carrying as they
have their own auras.

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Message no. 3
From: David Loewenstern <loewenst@****.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Masking and quickenings
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 23:18:30 EDT
... On Mon, 21 Jun 1993 11:17:45 EDT, Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.neu.edu> said:
}>>>>> "Dave" == 92804168 <92804168@***.uwplatt.edu>
writes:

}Dave> Now, I have a question: what happens to their quickened spells if
}Dave> they are masked? Do they a) still show up as quickened spells "oh
}Dave> that? my friend Sarkon cast it on me. Really", b) as a spell lock, c)
}Dave> as some "unidentified" source of the spell, or d) not at all (i.e.
}Dave> you cannot tell they have quickened spells if they are masked).

} A: they look like any other quickened spells. As I said, masking affects
} the mage's *personal* aura, not the aura of anything he's carrying as they
} have their own auras.

This is clearly false for foci (see GrimII). I have always understood
that the same applied to quickenings. If you can mask foci and not
quickenings, it would sure reduce the usefulness of quickenings relative to
spell locks. Sure, quickenings defend better than locks, but you
can't attack what you can't see.

Quincunx
Message no. 4
From: Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Masking and quickenings
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 08:06:04 EDT
>>>>> "David" == David Loewenstern
<loewenst@****.rutgers.edu> writes:

David> This is clearly false for foci (see GrimII). I have always
David> understood that the same applied to quickenings. If you can mask
David> foci and not quickenings, it would sure reduce the usefulness of
David> quickenings relative to spell locks. Sure, quickenings defend
David> better than locks, but you can't attack what you can't see.

You can't mask active spells, and quickenings are active spells.

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Message no. 5
From: "David Loewenstern, Bell Labs,
Subject: Masking and quickenings
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 10:52:42 EDT
... On Tue, 22 Jun 1993 08:06:04 EDT, Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.neu.edu> said:
} You can't mask active spells, and quickenings are active spells.

I don't recall a distinction between active and passive spells made in the
Grimoire. Perhaps I just missed it. It certainly isn't clear to me how
a quickening is "active" and and a spell lock is "non-active".

Quincunx

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