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Message no. 1
From: honken101@********.net (Fredrik Holmqvist)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 02:10:22 +0200
How much have you used the media in Shadowrun? I am running the "Silver
angel" adventure with a fresh Shadowrun group. I am trying to use the media
as a part of the city "noise". Noise as in the small stuff you put in there
to make the city alive. Anyway, if there is a firefight i am thinking of
letting the players see themselves on the trideo when they finish the run.
They will never appear in clear view but they will see muzzle flashes and
people running, and they will recognize the place where they did the run.
Have you done anything like this, and what was the players reactions, was
it good or bad?


My other question, if the media is attracted to the place of the run, the
Lone Star will surely be there too. How would you have them react? The area
isn't their jurisdiction, since the site is corporate (Mitsuhama). Would
they just be there as containment so the action / firefight didn't spread
too the city or would they just jump into the firefight?

/Honken
Message no. 2
From: zebulingod@*******.net (zebulingod)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:00:52 -0700
Fredrik Holmqvist wrote:
>
> How much have you used the media in Shadowrun? I am running
> the "Silver angel" adventure with a fresh Shadowrun group. I
> am trying to use the media as a part of the city "noise".
> Noise as in the small stuff you put in there to make the city
> alive. Anyway, if there is a firefight i am thinking of
> letting the players see themselves on the trideo when they
> finish the run.
> They will never appear in clear view but they will see muzzle
> flashes and people running, and they will recognize the place
> where they did the run.
> Have you done anything like this, and what was the players
> reactions, was it good or bad?
>
>

My players take it almost as a badge of honor to be featured on Friday Night
Firefights, a special that several trideo stations run featuring firefights
of the past week. The players don't set out to get on the show, but they do
like seeing themselves, even if it means they have to leave town for awhile.

*eg*

Zebulin

"Per Ardua ad Astra"
Message no. 3
From: tjlanza@************.com (Timothy J. Lanza)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:58:26 -0400
At 08:10 PM 5/12/2004, Fredrik Holmqvist wrote:
[Snip!]
>My other question, if the media is attracted to the place of the run, the
>Lone Star will surely be there too. How would you have them react? The
>area isn't their jurisdiction, since the site is corporate (Mitsuhama).
>Would they just be there as containment so the action / firefight didn't
>spread too the city or would they just jump into the firefight?

If the combat is taking place on extraterritorial property, they won't do
anything more than establish a perimeter. Lone Star's business is enforcing
law, so it wouldn't do well when their contract next comes up to have
violated the law.

However, it's worth noting that not /all/ corporate facilities are
extraterritorial. Many of the smaller facilities, and those of subsidiaries
may not fall under aegis of extraterritoriality. Depending on the area,
they may not want public notification of the site's true owner. In other
cases, the government in control of the area may deny extraterritorial status.

--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman
Message no. 4
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:02:56 +0200
According to Fredrik Holmqvist, on Thursday 13 May 2004 02:10 the word on
the street was...

> Anyway, if there is a firefight i am
> thinking of letting the players see themselves on the trideo when they
> finish the run. They will never appear in clear view but they will see
> muzzle flashes and people running, and they will recognize the place
> where they did the run. Have you done anything like this, and what was
> the players reactions, was it good or bad?

I haven't done anything like this myself, unless it was a deliberate part
of an adventure, but my group's current GM has definitely overused it.
Especially early on in the current campaign, it seemed we couldn't get
into a firefight or we were live on the trid, which naturally made us
rather nervous. IMHO firefights in SR are common enough that not every one
of them makes it onto the evening news -- you probably only hear about
them if they're sonehow remarkable, like if a noteworthy person was
involved (or got killed), if it was in some unusual location, if it's very
big, etc.

> My other question, if the media is attracted to the place of the run,
> the Lone Star will surely be there too. How would you have them react?
> The area isn't their jurisdiction, since the site is corporate
> (Mitsuhama). Would they just be there as containment so the action /
> firefight didn't spread too the city or would they just jump into the
> firefight?

If it's outside their jurisdiction, they won't do anything -- they can
probably only get into trouble for intervening, for exactly that reason.
Only if the firefight spreads to territory LS is supposed to protect will
they get involved, IMHO -- and even then it probably depends on several
factors. One of them would be who is involved in the fighting: if there's
one side that either the LS cops or LS as a whole has problems with, I
doubt they'd do much against the people fighting them, unless they start
endangering a third party, for example.

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Message no. 5
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:37:20 +0100
At 01:10 AM 5/13/2004, Honken wrote:
><Snip> am thinking of letting the players see themselves on the trideo
>when they finish the run. They will never appear in clear view but they
>will see muzzle flashes and people running, and they will recognize the
>place where they did the run. Have you done anything like this, and what
>was the players reactions, was it good or bad? </Snip>

My players insist on their characters watching the trid' after a run, they
always want to know whether they've made it onto the news (and of course if
anyone could identify them by the footage if they have) it's a perfectly
sensible system, if you see a shot of yourself which would allow people to
identify you you grab your bugout bag and run before the 'Star break down
your door. (If the 'Star get to you first of course you don't get to see
yourself on the trid'.)
News media plays a huge role in our games, I hope you find it as useful as
I have.


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Lone Eagle
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Message no. 6
From: mc23@**********.com (MC23)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:17:44 -0400
On May 12, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Fredrik Holmqvist wrote:

> How much have you used the media in Shadowrun?

Part of my background for Charlotte involved had Trideo Free
Charlotte, pirate broadcasters and part time information brokers. Great
contacts, great for creating atmosphere.

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Message no. 7
From: bort2@***.de (bort2)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff...
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:09:27 +0200
Thursday, May 13, 2004, 2:10:22 AM
<snip>
> My other question, if the media is attracted to the place of the run, the
> Lone Star will surely be there too. How would you have them react? The area
> isn't their jurisdiction, since the site is corporate (Mitsuhama). Would
> they just be there as containment so the action / firefight didn't spread
> too the city or would they just jump into the firefight?
IIrc, the Ucas is not the only contractpartner of LS, so several Corps also
have contracts with the Star, so the extraterritorail status aof the site does
not necesserily mean that LS is not allowed to go/act there. On the
whole, they will surely show up, just in case the fighters cross the
border. And if they get attacted, they will surely react somehow
(although laws might them force to just retreat if they get attacked.
Im not sure on the selfdefense-issue.

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