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Message no. 1
From: rothgefa@*******.com (Robert Fanning)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff... (bort2)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:16:10 +1000
>Thursday, May 13, 2004, 2:10:22 AM
><snip>
>>My other question, if the media is attracted to the place of the run, the
>>Lone Star will surely be there too. How would you have them react? The
>>area
>>isn't their jurisdiction, since the site is corporate (Mitsuhama). Would
>>they just be there as containment so the action / firefight didn't spread
>>too the city or would they just jump into the firefight?
>IIrc, the Ucas is not the only contractpartner of LS, so several Corps also
>have contracts with the Star, so the extraterritorail status aof the site
>does
>not necesserily mean that LS is not allowed to go/act there. On the
>whole, they will surely show up, just in case the fighters cross the
>border. And if they get attacted, they will surely react somehow
>(although laws might them force to just retreat if they get attacked.
>Im not sure on the selfdefense-issue.

Well, I am sure that Lone Star has reciprocal aggreements with various
companies, being the primary security provider in a lot of places. Any
related corporations certainly will, such as Ares Macrotech.

If nothing else, a payment to the Police "Widows and Orphan" funds can
ensure compliance, or just being "chummers" with their counterpart in the
other corporation.

The only problem I can see is if the LS officers get involved in a firefight
that damages the facilities of the other corporation.

Certainly they would be careful with incendiary and explosive ammunitions -
autofire weapons would probably also be limited to 3 shot bursts (or the
limits of recoil compensation) to ensure that civilians don't cop any stray
rounds.

If you read "Into the Shadows", what they did to McKuen's Scrap and Salvage
(in the 2nd last chapter) would not be tolerated, but then old Geogie Porgie
never did follow the rules anyway.


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Message no. 2
From: area51_guy@*******.com (Whayne Sebrey)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff... (bort2)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:29:42 -0800
>Well, I am sure that Lone Star has reciprocal aggreements with various
>companies, being the primary security provider in a lot of places. Any
>related corporations certainly will, such as Ares Macrotech.

Well, technically Ares wouldn't exactly be on the best of terms with LS, as
Knight Errant is an Ares subsidary and a major competitor for LS.

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Message no. 3
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff... (bort2)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:37:37 +0100
At 04:16 AM 5/18/2004, Robert wrote:
>Well, I am sure that Lone Star has reciprocal aggreements with various
>companies, being the primary security provider in a lot of places. Any
>related corporations certainly will, such as Ares Macrotech.

Ares Macrotechnology are highly unlikely to have reciprocal agreements,
Lone Star is after all in direct competition with Ares Macrotechnology's
Knight Errant security division.

>If nothing else, a payment to the Police "Widows and Orphan" funds can
>ensure compliance, or just being "chummers" with their counterpart in the
>other corporation.

The problem of course is that most of the megas have things they want to
keep out of sight, most will want to avoid having the 'Star see for example
how they dispose of their waste.


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Message no. 4
From: bort2@***.de (bort2)
Subject: Media in Shadowrun, and some other stuff... (bort2)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:17:26 +0200
<snip>
> The problem of course is that most of the megas have things they want to
> keep out of sight, most will want to avoid having the 'Star see for example
> how they dispose of their waste.
<snip>
There is not much th ecops can do about that if the area is
extraterritorial, thus not under UCAS-legislation. Plus, the contract
details might prohibit some areas for th eStar (a "forbidden zone", so
to speak).And on other sites were the cops should not sniff around, a
different security provider (KE for example) or the security branch of
the corp would be used. But on a "normal" branch office, LS surely
would be th esecurity provider, complete with (nearly) all rights.

About the damaging thing:
Most contracts will surely have a paragraph that deals with these
matters, beginnig from repayment by LS to restricting them to
non-lethal (thus non-damaging) measures.

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