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From:	Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject:	Medicine lodge question
Date:	Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:35:01 -0500

Message no. 1 A medicine lodge is an astral barrier all the time, right?

So it is NOT a good place to start your astral recon, because you'd need to fight
your way out of it, correct? Or does the owner get to treat it like a tuned ward?

If you do fight your way out of it (or in to it), what happens to the lodge? Does it
regenerate next turn? Are the materials in it used up? Is there any visible effect?

Double-Domed Mike

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Medicine lodge question
Date:	Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:06:30 +0100

Message no. 2 Mike Elkins said on 15:35/10 Dec 96...

> A medicine lodge is an astral barrier all the time, right?
>
> So it is NOT a good place to start your astral recon, because you'd
> need to fight your way out of it, correct? Or does the owner get to
> treat it like a tuned ward?

Although I don't think it's specifically mentioned in any rules, I'd say
the owner of a medicine lodge or hermetic circle can enter and leave at
any time. Only "outsiders" must fight the barrier to get in or out (it's
not mentioned if this has to be done every time, or only once).

> If you do fight your way out of it (or in to it), what happens to the
> lodge? Does it regenerate next turn? Are the materials in it used up?
> Is there any visible effect?

If you break the lodge's resistance by reducing its Barrier Rating to 0,
you -- and only you -- can go through; the barrier remains solid to any
other astral intruder. If you give up the fight before reducing the
rating to 0, it's permanently reduced to whatever rating you managed to
get it down to.

(References for all this: SRII pages 147 and 148.)

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From:	Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject:	Re: Medicine lodge question
Date:	Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:04:35 +0000

Message no. 3 On 10 Dec 96 at 15:35, Mike Elkins wrote:

> A medicine lodge is an astral barrier all the time, right?
>
> So it is NOT a good place to start your astral recon, because you'd need to
> fight your way out of it, correct? Or does the owner get to treat it like a
> tuned ward?
You are right, according to the rules the lodge would be a barrier even for
the shaman who set it up.

> If you do fight your way out of it (or in to it), what happens to the
> lodge? Does it regenerate next turn? Are the materials in it used up? Is
> there any visible effect?
That one is easy, see SRII pp. 147-148. The materials are not used up, the
barrier is broken for one char only, and it regenerates ...

Nonono... just joking. You fight against the barrier, and if you win, the
barrier is reduced. If the barrier is reduced to 0, it is broken. Sounds good?
Thought so. But... this works only for the attacking char, and "The barrier
remains intact against all other intruders."

As for visual affects, I'd say there are none, as the barrier is not destroyed
for most people.

Hope that helps...

Sascha
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