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From:	Martin Steffens <BDI05626@***.RHIJ.NL>
Subject:	medium handguns
Date:	Thu, 23 Feb 1995 18:09:50 +0100

Message no. 1 Just a simple question: why are there heavy and light pistols in
Shadowrun, but no medium? I would say they go for a damage of about
6M. In a lot of cases light pistols are easy to conceal but don't
pack enough firepower and heavies are hard to conceal (and sometimes
just kill the PC's to quickly :).
I have almost no knowledge of firearms (trying to fix that), so maybe
its a stupid question (or a frequently asked one :), but I just
wondered.

Greetings,

Martin
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From:	Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject:	Re: medium handguns
Date:	Fri, 24 Feb 1995 03:38:37 +0930

Message no. 2 Once upon a time, Martin Steffens wrote:
>
> Just a simple question: why are there heavy and light pistols in
> Shadowrun, but no medium?

[ Chomp... ]

> I have almost no knowledge of firearms (trying to fix that)

Neither does FASA. That's why.

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Robert Watkins bob@**.ntu.edu.au
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From:	Beatrice Dominguez-Meiers <polbdm@***.EDU>
Subject:	Re: medium handguns
Date:	Thu, 23 Feb 1995 18:38:04 -0700

Message no. 3 On Fri, 24 Feb 1995, Robert Watkins wrote:

> Once upon a time, Martin Steffens wrote:
> >
> > Just a simple question: why are there heavy and light pistols in
> > Shadowrun, but no medium?
>
> [ Chomp... ]
>
> > I have almost no knowledge of firearms (trying to fix that)
>
> Neither does FASA. That's why.
>
Yes, that's true they don't , but the real reason was because only last
year did a medium frame handgun (manufactured by Beretta) first appear on
the market an d to the public.
When I was at the International Association of Police Chiefs convention
here in Albuquerque, I got to handle one of these guns and they combine
the aspects of both large and small frame guns.
I think the stats for such a gun would be
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
type conc mode ammo damage weight cost avail street index
medium 6 SA 12 6M 1.85 700 14/14 days 1.5

This is for a generic gun. The damage is since .40 cal has almost
the exact same ballistics as a .45 or what FASA considers large handguns,
which they are.

AET guns are British and Tir Nan 'Og brand guns and can only be
bought there since exportation is non-existant. they have an increased
cost of about 30% or so, -1 concealability, 25 rnd clips and availability
and street index are 1.5

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: medium handguns
Date:	Fri, 24 Feb 1995 12:33:58 +0100

Message no. 4 >Just a simple question: why are there heavy and light pistols in
>Shadowrun, but no medium? I would say they go for a damage of about
>6M. In a lot of cases light pistols are easy to conceal but don't
>pack enough firepower and heavies are hard to conceal (and sometimes
>just kill the PC's to quickly :).

I'd say: because there's Light and Heavy doesn't mean there has to be Medium
too... OTOH, if there's Medium and Heavy, I'd expect there to be Light as
well. What you propose for a medium pistol (6M) is what I think a heavy
pistol should be.

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