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From:	Silvio Sampietro <cyric@*****.NETSURF.DE>
Subject:	Melee and Firearms or Spells
Date:	Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:07:00 MET

Message no. 1 Greetinx Chummer!

IMO the rules in SR2 don´t say what happens if only 1 oppenent wants to
attack in melee. What if the other opponent doesn´t want to and prefers
firing a gun or casting a spell? Does it only depend on the initiatve if i
follow the melee rules or not?

Just wondering...

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From:	Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: Melee and Firearms or Spells
Date:	Thu, 28 Nov 1996 16:32:10 GMT

Message no. 2 Silvio Sampietro writes
>
> IMO the rules in SR2 don t say what happens if only 1 oppenent wants to
> attack in melee. What if the other opponent doesn t want to
well he gets hit!
stand aimlessly in front of a guy with a sword and you are liable to
become a head shorter!

> and prefers
> firing a gun or casting a spell? Does it only depend on the initiatve if i
> follow the melee rules or not?
>
When they guy wanting to use melee goes his target gets no choice
he's in melee, if he doesn't want to defend well i'm sure the
attacker won't mind :)
Firing a gun while being attacked in melee is +2TN per attacker max
gun size = pistol, spellcasting doesn't require you manouver a
physical object so no penalty.

Mark

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Melee and Firearms or Spells
Date:	Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:40:11 +0100

Message no. 3 Silvio Sampietro said on 17:07/28 Nov 96...

> IMO the rules in SR2 don t say what happens if only 1 oppenent wants to
> attack in melee.

Real simple: then you're a target that gets attacked, instead of being
able to counter-attack -- just as with ranged combat.

> What if the other opponent doesn t want to and prefers firing a gun or
> casting a spell? Does it only depend on the initiatve if i follow the
> melee rules or not?

I don't think there are rules for casting a spell while you're being
attacked, but you get a +2 modifier per opponent if you fire a gun when
you're in melee combat. I'd say that if you want to cast a spell, you're
going to have to wait until your next action...

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From:	Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject:	Re: Melee and Firearms or Spells
Date:	Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:03:14 +0000

Message no. 4 On 29 Nov 96 at 11:40, Gurth wrote:
[snip shooting/casting while under melee attack]
> I don't think there are rules for casting a spell while you're being
> attacked, but you get a +2 modifier per opponent if you fire a gun when
> you're in melee combat. I'd say that if you want to cast a spell, you're
> going to have to wait until your next action...
I'd assume the +2 TN for damaging manipulations also, since you are aiming the
elemental effects like a gun, and it _is_ something physical...

Sascha
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