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Message no. 1
From: Sebastian Wiers <seb@***.RIPCO.COM>
Subject: Re: Melee Idea/tactics
Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:06:12 -0500
>
> I've stayed out of this, but...
>
> >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Wiers
<seb@***.RIPCO.COM> writes:
>
> Sebastian> I play an elven Samurai with a reaction of 16 (wire 3, high
> Sebastian> stats, bioware).
>
> Um, Reaction/Initiative bonuses from different boosts do not combine. You
> only get the best one, and that's your Wired-3.
>
> Sebastian> That was as a starting caracter, its gone down to 14 sice he got
> Sebastian> sick and had to take drugs and shut off the suprathyriod. I
> Sebastian> Imediately raised these "well, if i'm fast, don't I get a combat
> Sebastian> bonus" questions, and the answer was a big no.
>
> The question is "do you get an *extra* combat bonus" and the answer is
> still "no."
>
> Sebastian> But, bieng fast is an advantage: you should always have
> Sebastian> supperior position,
>
> No, you don't. Good tactics will beat speed every time. And that's not even
> beginning to touch on the psychology of warfare and combat; all the speed
> in the world will do you no good if I've psyched you out with Kujikiri
> techniques, for example.
>
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Message no. 2
From: Bob Ooton <topcat@**.CENCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: Melee Idea/tactics
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:46:23 -0500
>Good tactics will beat speed every time. And that's not even
> beginning to touch on the psychology of warfare and combat; all the speed
> in the world will do you no good if I've psyched you out with Kujikiri
> techniques, for example.

If you're psyched out by hand-jive, you've got no business (and no hope) in
a fight of any sort, go home and take up basket weaving. Wave hands at a
decent fighter like that and you'll probably come out of it with a mangled
hand or two (if you get lucky and he doesn't really decide to make you pay).
Good tactics will not beat speed every time. One-on-one competition. I
know you're there, you know I'm there. There are literally millions of
other possibilities (I hide behind a door... sure I'm slower but I'll get
surprise!) You'll get one chance, maybe he doesn't move fast enough to
counter... if he does, you're meat. In an open fight, speed kills. And
after surprise has had it's way... every fight is an open fight.


-- Bob Ooton <topcat@******.net>
Message no. 3
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Melee Idea/tactics
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:12:51 -0400
>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Ooton <topcat@**.CENCOM.NET> writes:

Bob> If you're psyched out by hand-jive, you've got no business (and no
Bob> hope) in a fight of any sort, go home and take up basket weaving.

At least you know what it is :).

Bob> Wave hands at a decent fighter like that and you'll probably come out
Bob> of it with a mangled hand or two (if you get lucky and he doesn't
Bob> really decide to make you pay).

Kujikiri is a blanket name for a number of hypnotic and distracting
techniques. Even if it makes you stand there and wonder what the fuck he's
doing, even for a moment, it's done it's job.

Bob> Good tactics will not beat speed every time. One-on-one competition.

Good tactics and *strategy*. Those say that if you're better than I, I
should never approach you in a one-on-one. Proper Planning Prevents
Piss-Poor Perfomance, and all that :).

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