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Message no. 1
From: "Brett M. Carlisle" <brettmc@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:16:34 -0500
At 07:43 PM 3/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
>They don't, I don't have PAoNA. With out seeing the critters stats I'd say
>willpower resisted Deadly spells backed up by force 4 to 8 spirits. Other
>then that I'd guess autocannons or maybe small amounts of chemical
>weaponry. Other then that you could try to herd the thing somehow. If
>someone would post the stats and shadowtalk I'd apperciate it.

Steve,

All you had to do was ask...

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Juggernaut

Game Information
B Q S C I W E R Attacks
Juggernaut 15/4 4x3 42 - 1/3 9 7 4 9D3

Powers: Enhanced Physical Attributes (Quickness, once per day, for (Essence
x 2)D6 turns), Enhanced Senses (Improved Healing and Smell, Motion
Detection), Fear, Immunity to Cold, Immunity to Fire, Immunity to
Pathogens, Immunity to Poisons


Identification

Another Awakened createure that arose from the common armadillo (D.
novemcinctus), the juggernaut has the same jointed armor of bony plates and
the same poor eyesight. The juggernaught, however, reaches lengths of 14
meters or more.

Like the armadillo, the juggernaut has no teeth; unlike the armadillo, the
juggernaut has sharp serrated ridges of bone in both upper and lower jaw.
The creature's feet are clawed.


Magic Capability

Parabiological


Habits

The juggernaut is an omnivore in the truest sense of the word. Its chemical
economy can absorb and extract nutrients from everything, be it plant,
animal, rocks or even scrap metal. It does seem to prever live prey,
however. This variable chemical economy allows the juggernaut to respire
anaerobically for hours. When its metabolism has switched over to
anaerobic, it needs no air. (Though it cannot swim, a juggernaut can hunt
fish in a lake by walking around on the lake bed.) When operating
aerobically, however, the creature is considerably faster (reflecting the
greater chemical efficiency of aerobic respiration).

To compensate for its weak eyesight, the juggernaut has enhanced hearing
and smell, and motion detection (apparently based on detection of
electrical fields). Juggernauts do not have thermographic vision. On the
other side, they show a very small IR signature, and thus are difficult to
detect using thermos. (This is an apparent consequence of the insulating
nature of the juggernaut's hide plates, though how the excess heat is
dissipated remains a mystery).

Juggernauts are aggressive hunters. They are also solitary creatures.
Unless one is male and the other a female in estrus, an encounter between
two juggernauts almost inevitably leads to a fight to the death of one or
both.


Commentary

A juggernaut will cut a swath through a region, eating and destroying
everything in its path. They are the ultimate killing machine, and
conversely, exceedingly hard to kill. Most governments offer a significant
bounty for the destruction of a juggernaut. (It is perhaps instructive that
very few juggernaut bounties have ever been paid out.)


Weaknesses

None


Shadowtalk

>>>(How the slotting hell do you kill one of these things?)<<<
-Greyhawk (2-23-51)

>>>(Panzer with an assault cannon. Say it with sabots.)<<<
-Mad Merc (2-23-51)

>>>(I'm not kidding. There's no easy way to take these guys down?)<<<
-Greyhawk (2-23-51)

>>>(If you're thinking of going for one of those bounties, I'd advise
against it. The bounty's a good purse, but you'll spend most of it getting
yourself put back together again--if you make it back at all.)<<<
-Casper (2-23-51)

>>>(No, Greyhawk, there's no easy way. You just got to pound on it till it
croaks. If you can face up to it without running.)<<<
-Eagle (2-24-51)

>>>(I've thought about that. Does this bleeder really cause fear, or is
that just the only logical natural reaction?)<<<
-Neddy (2-24-51)

>>>(Hey, Greyhawk. If you're serious about going after a jugger, I can
kluge together something that might save your butt. For a price, of course.
The guide says they do their motion detection trick by detecting electrical
fields. I can whip you up a random field generator, an electrical analog of
white noise, and it should throw the big bleeder for a serious loop. Of
course, it might only make it mad.)<<<
-Straight Gain (2-24-51)

>>>(I agree with Cap the Knife, Greyhawk. I've seen one of these things
from the air. It must have been a baby, no more than eight or nine meeters.
The thing was chewing on a Harley. There wasn't anything I could do for the
biker, or what little was left of her, so I dropped a rack of AV cluster
bombs on the jugger. I think that hurt it, but it sure didn't kill it. And
AV clusters are designed to shred panzers. Still want to take on the
bounty, Greyhawk?)<<<
-Candice (2-24-51)


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That's about it guys.

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Message no. 2
From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:05:14 -0600
At 11:16 PM 98-03-25 -0500, you wrote:
>At 07:43 PM 3/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>They don't, I don't have PAoNA. With out seeing the critters stats I'd say
>>willpower resisted Deadly spells backed up by force 4 to 8 spirits. Other
>>then that I'd guess autocannons or maybe small amounts of chemical
>>weaponry. Other then that you could try to herd the thing somehow. If
>>someone would post the stats and shadowtalk I'd apperciate it.
>
>Steve,
>
>All you had to do was ask...
>
>-----
>
>Juggernaut
>
>Game Information
> B Q S C I W E R Attacks
>Juggernaut 15/4 4x3 42 - 1/3 9 7 4 9D3
>
>Powers: Enhanced Physical Attributes (Quickness, once per day, for (Essence
>x 2)D6 turns), Enhanced Senses (Improved Healing and Smell, Motion
>Detection), Fear, Immunity to Cold, Immunity to Fire, Immunity to
>Pathogens, Immunity to Poisons
>
>
Well taking it down via mundane means seems to be out. I'd say with a will
of 9 the best way to take the thing down would be ritual sorcery with a
deadly level mana spell. Getting the links going to be hard though (my
suggestion bomb it from the air and hope for some blood). Other then magic
the only thing that comes to mind is about a ton of TNT. In the wild I'd
say the only thing that would stop one of these (besides maybe a dragon)
would be a couple awakened magic using beasts getting together to drop a
ritual on it (werefoxes come to mind but then they're the were creature
you're least likely to find in the wild).

Of course if your really good you'll get spirits to herd it to the other
side of the boarder and make it somebody elses problem.

SteveD
Stephen Delear
University of Missouri-Columbia
Check out my Photo Message Board at http://www.missouri.edu/~c715591
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the shutter" Ansel Adams
Message no. 3
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:12:02 +1000
Stephen Delear writes:
[Juggernaut stats snipped]
>Well taking it down via mundane means seems to be out. I'd say with a will
>of 9 the best way to take the thing down would be ritual sorcery with a
>deadly level mana spell. Getting the links going to be hard though (my
>suggestion bomb it from the air and hope for some blood). Other then magic
>the only thing that comes to mind is about a ton of TNT. In the wild I'd
>say the only thing that would stop one of these (besides maybe a dragon)
>would be a couple awakened magic using beasts getting together to drop a
>ritual on it (werefoxes come to mind but then they're the were creature
>you're least likely to find in the wild).


You could also do it the way your ancestors would have... dig a whopping
great big hole, cover it with something that can hold a man, but not a ten
tonne beasty, and lure it on to it. Then proceed to pound on the helpless
juggie until it's dead.

Either that or artillery. :)

(Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)

--
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Message no. 4
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:06:25 -0800
Robert Watkins wrote:

> (Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)

Since you mention it, Discover magazine (in either this month's or last
motnh's issue) had a small blurb on prehistoric armadillos; apparently,
there was one of considerable size (about a hippo, iirc). I don't have
the copy anymore, but someone else might have it handy.


- Matt

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Message no. 5
From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:24:54 -0600
At 03:12 PM 98-03-26 +1000, you wrote:
>Stephen Delear writes:
>[Juggernaut stats snipped]
>>Well taking it down via mundane means seems to be out. I'd say with a will
>>of 9 the best way to take the thing down would be ritual sorcery with a
>>deadly level mana spell. Getting the links going to be hard though (my
>>suggestion bomb it from the air and hope for some blood). Other then magic
>>the only thing that comes to mind is about a ton of TNT. In the wild I'd
>>say the only thing that would stop one of these (besides maybe a dragon)
>>would be a couple awakened magic using beasts getting together to drop a
>>ritual on it (werefoxes come to mind but then they're the were creature
>>you're least likely to find in the wild).
>
>
>You could also do it the way your ancestors would have... dig a whopping
>great big hole, cover it with something that can hold a man, but not a ten
>tonne beasty, and lure it on to it. Then proceed to pound on the helpless
>juggie until it's dead.
>
>Either that or artillery. :)
>
>(Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)
>

Armadillos carry leprosy so the only time I've seen one I wasn't getting
close enough to measure it. I'd say the thing with about eight inches but
it could have been young. I've heard of the things getting up to two feet
long.

SteveD
>--
>sig deleted to conserve electrons robert.watkins@******.com
>
Stephen Delear
University of Missouri-Columbia
Check out my Photo Message Board at http://www.missouri.edu/~c715591
"Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
the shutter" Ansel Adams
Message no. 6
From: Jerry Hill <agh60070@*******.CC.UCF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:48:04 -0500
>(Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)


Heh, the biggest armadillo I've seen is large cat or small dog size. Maybe
1 ft. high, 2 ft. long.

Jerry Hill
Message no. 7
From: MgkellyMP5 <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:17:49 EST
In a message dated 98-03-26 18:53:36 EST, you write:

<< >(Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)
>>

i may have missed the original post, so i'm assuming (probably a mistake.
making an assumption makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption') that it regards
Behemoths. The Behemoth may be huge, as well as a variant of the common
armadillo, but it's an Awakened armadillo.
Message no. 8
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:39:46 +1000
MgkellyMP5 writes:
><< >(Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)
> >>
>
>i may have missed the original post, so i'm assuming (probably a mistake.
>making an assumption makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption') that it
regards
>Behemoths. The Behemoth may be huge, as well as a variant of the common
>armadillo, but it's an Awakened armadillo.


It was about Juggernauts, actually (isn't the behemoth the awakened
alligator?). I was just pointing out that the size increase is enormous...
from something that has been stated to be about a meter long (from list
posts), to something more than 14 times that size, and Dog only knows how
much heavier...

Hey, this gives me a theory: Juggernauts must be goblinised, not merely
Awakened, aramdillos... otherwise the poor mothers would have been ripped
open in the first trimester of pregnancy. :) Now, most victims of
goblinisation are slightly mad (or worse...). This implies that most
Juggernauts are mad!

Take it and play with it is you will.

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Message no. 9
From: Philaims <Philaims@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:51:22 EST
In a message dated 98-03-26 22:18:34 EST, you write:

> i may have missed the original post, so i'm assuming (probably a mistake.
> making an assumption makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption') that it
regards
> Behemoths. The Behemoth may be huge, as well as a variant of the common
> armadillo, but it's an Awakened armadillo.

Behemoth is an entirely different nasty armored thing...awakened Alligator,
yes? Ever wonder if there's some sort of paranimal chic? You know, Behemoth
skin boots, a fur wrap made from a kluude...
Message no. 10
From: Jerry Hill <agh60070@*******.CC.UCF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:00:36 -0500
> Hey, this gives me a theory: Juggernauts must be goblinised, not merely
> Awakened, aramdillos... otherwise the poor mothers would have been ripped
> open in the first trimester of pregnancy. :) Now, most victims of
> goblinisation are slightly mad (or worse...). This implies that most
> Juggernauts are mad!

Hmmm... WRT goblinization, perhaps some sort of spontaneous goblinization,
then breeding true. The implication certainly seems to be that they do
breed, and breed more Juggernaught (not too often I hope, though).

Why do you think that most victims of goblinization are mad? at least in my
world the general population of orcs and trolls are not insane (though a
large portion of the runners tend to be, no matter what the metatype).


Jerry Hill
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Message no. 11
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:52:49 EST
In a message dated 98-03-26 18:53:37 EST, you write:

<< >(Hey, anyone know how big armadillos get? This thing is HUGE!)


Heh, the biggest armadillo I've seen is large cat or small dog size. Maybe
1 ft. high, 2 ft. long. >>

I heard a friend once describe them as being roughly the right size for a
hardened "Cod" piece (if you can't figure that one out then take a look
between your legs -for the guys that is-).

Mike
Message no. 12
From: MgkellyMP5 <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:53:35 EST
In a message dated 98-03-26 22:44:43 EST, you write:

<< t was about Juggernauts, actually (isn't the behemoth the awakened
alligator?). I was just pointing out that the size increase is enormous... >>

whoops! got myself confused again ;] always get the Juggernaut and Behemoth
mixed up ;]

Mgkelly
Message no. 13
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:19:03 -0500
On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 10:51:22PM -0500, Philaims wrote:
> In a message dated 98-03-26 22:18:34 EST, you write:
>
> > i may have missed the original post, so i'm assuming (probably a mistake.
> > making an assumption makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption') that it
> regards
> > Behemoths. The Behemoth may be huge, as well as a variant of the common
> > armadillo, but it's an Awakened armadillo.
>
> Behemoth is an entirely different nasty armored thing...awakened Alligator,
> yes? Ever wonder if there's some sort of paranimal chic? You know, Behemoth
> skin boots, a fur wrap made from a kluude...

Heh..In my world there is. Along with barghests pelts etc.
After all its a perfect status symbol for the rich.
(Which is also a good run by the way, protecting some rich snob, while
they go "Big game" hunting).

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Message no. 14
From: Jerry Hill <agh60070@*******.CC.UCF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Milspec hardened armor (Juggernaut/uber-dillo)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:47:00 -0500
> (Which is also a good run by the way, protecting some rich snob, while
> they go "Big game" hunting).


I've used this one before, and it does work well. The campaign was a
street-level campaign in Tir Nan Og. (It was a lot of fun, and not a single
person wanted to play an elf!) Anyway, one of their runs was to "escort" a
small group of second sons on their hunt. The rules: The lords must live
through the hunting trip. The lords cannot see you. The lords must think
THEY killed the animal, no matter what the truth was. It went real well
until one of the lords took off after a Hellhound by himself....


Jerry Hill
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 but it didn't take long to go up in flames'
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