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From:	dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject:	Min/Max Characters
Date:	Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:05:25 -0700 (MST)

Message no. 1 Terry Amburgey wrote:
|
|>P.S. Remember to think both hermetically and
|>shamanistically about these issues. Neither
|>tradition has all the pieces of the puzzle.
|
|I must admit that I'm hermetic to the core :) I've never played a shaman and
|I'm not sure I could pull it off. Hey, wait a minute! I'm a munchkin I don't
|need to worry about roleplaying! [runs off to start min/maxing a new shaman
|pc]. Terry

Here's an idea. Who can make the most munchkineous character? And who can
make the most munchkineous archetype (Decker, Sam, Rigger, Mage, Shaman,
PhysAd, etc.)? I would ask only one limitation, use only FASA's SRII and
SR sourcebooks, except for VR1.0 (nothing from magazines or web sites).

This could be a lot of fun and we could use them for Cons.

-David

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From:	Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@****.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>
Subject:	Re: Min/Max Characters
Date:	Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:01:32 +0100 (MET)

From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Min/Max Characters
Date:	Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:56:13 +0100

Message no. 3 Sascha Pabst said on 26 Mar 96...

> David wrote:
> > Here's an idea. Who can make the most munchkineous character?
> What about the speed elf from... err... Gurth (?) and... errr...
> someone else?

Me and Martin Steffens, yes... I thought of that char too when David
mentioned this :) Now I'm thiking about making some others like him, and
I think one of Jani's trolls (Mr. Indestructible) would also do quite well
in this thread :)

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From:	Jonas Gabrielson <m94jga@*******.tdb.uu.se>
Subject:	Re: Min/Max Characters
Date:	Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:57:04 +0100 (MET)

Message no. 4 On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Sascha Pabst said on 26 Mar 96...
>
> > David wrote:
> > > Here's an idea. Who can make the most munchkineous character?
> > What about the speed elf from... err... Gurth (?) and... errr...
> > someone else?
>
> Me and Martin Steffens, yes... I thought of that char too when David
> mentioned this :) Now I'm thiking about making some others like him, and
> I think one of Jani's trolls (Mr. Indestructible) would also do quite well
> in this thread :)

Once I actually sat down to see how high you could increase
Reaction and Initiative. I came to the stunning (for me, at least)
conclusion that a starting character could actually reach this limit!
(Given a normal human and no alpha/beta/gamma-ware or cultured bioware.)
This was accoplished with priority A=resources (1,000,000),
B=attributes (24?), C=skills (24?), and D+E at magic and race. With the
money, he could buy adrenal gland, wired 3, enhanced articulation, muscle
augmentation X and lots more, finishing at 19+4D6 in Initiative, and still
having money (and some essence) left to buy weapons etc. The attributes
were placed on B 6 (for lots of bioware potential), Q 6 and I 6. However,
this was before Cybertechnology.

-Jonas Gabrielson, who used to be a contender

From:	"Darrin M. Conant" <dconant@****.spectra.net>
Subject:	Re: Min/Max Characters
Date:	Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:43:49 -0500

Message no. 5 At 10:05 AM 3/26/96 -0700, dbuehrer@****.org wrote:

>Here's an idea. Who can make the most munchkineous character? And who can
>make the most munchkineous archetype (Decker, Sam, Rigger, Mage, Shaman,
>PhysAd, etc.)? I would ask only one limitation, use only FASA's SRII and
>SR sourcebooks, except for VR1.0 (nothing from magazines or web sites).
>
>This could be a lot of fun and we could use them for Cons.

Sounds like fun! :) Give me a couple of days.
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From:	TopCat <topcat@******.net>
Subject:	Re: Min/Max Characters
Date:	Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:00:20 -0600

Message no. 6 >Here's an idea. Who can make the most munchkineous character? And who can
>make the most munchkineous archetype (Decker, Sam, Rigger, Mage, Shaman,
>PhysAd, etc.)? I would ask only one limitation, use only FASA's SRII and
>SR sourcebooks, except for VR1.0 (nothing from magazines or web sites).

Oh man, I got this dead to rights... my cyber-troll ("You mean I got flesh
left? Oh, that's just bioware, got worried there for a minute."). I seem
to remember 14 body, 17 strength, tactical computer, every sense enhancement
I could find, and a dikoted combat axe... ;)

But then again, he was specialized for hand-to-hand and pre-Cybertechnology
(cuddles his copy for a bit then returns to the mail). Hmmm...

For all-encompassing munchkinism, nothing can beat a mage/shaman. If the
mage gets to grab all the elementals he can make before anything really gets
going, then the mage wins hands down. If not, the shaman does (specifically
those Sun types...).

The big spell, of course, is control actions. Earth elementals for mages
work well (sustained barrier spells). Any elemental works well for that
matter, it's like having one mammoth flunky to do your dirty work for you.

Samurai can now decimate physads in number-terms as far as the mundane group
goes. The only physads that have a chance are those that cyber/bio
themselves, which doesn't really make them either physad or samurai.

Deckers are always dangerous in their own little way, but an attack-6D
program doesn't do a whole lot against a troll with an axe. Riggers can get
REALLY nasty with drones and heavy weapons.

So after thought (in an all-out munchkin war from scratch) it'd be the the
mages/shamans all the way. Physads and samurai could look good for a round
or two til they missed their willpower check or got smacked around by a
couple elementals. Now, if you let armor get silly (which it would for any
self-respecting samunchurai) then you've got a slightly different story, but
many spells still cause problems and would probably mean their doom.
Riggers would be cashed as soon as they were found (elementals are good at
that) same for deckers (though I can't really imagine what they be doing
there...).

(looks up at his effort) Why did I do this?

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From:	xanth@****.uky.edu (Terry Amburgey)
Subject:	Re: Min/Max Characters
Date:	Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:34:25 -0500 (EST)

Message no. 7 Topcat wrote:
[snip]
> Now, if you let armor get silly (which it would for any
>self-respecting samunchurai) then you've got a slightly different story,
[snip]

Samunchurai?! This is great, thanks for exapnding my vocabulary. Heh heh, I
can't wait till our next session. Terry

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