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From:	David Egeland <davide@*********.NO>
Subject:	Minotaur/Ogre-character's in Shadowrun
Date:	Fri, 11 Aug 1995 18:07:05 +0200

Message no. 1 Hi!

In the discussion about an optional character creation procedure, I
noticed that both Minotaur's and Ogre's were listed as player character
races. Are there any rules for playing these kinds of characters, and if
yes, where can I find them?

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From:	Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Minotaur/Ogre-character's in Shadowrun
Date:	Fri, 11 Aug 1995 13:19:40 -0400

Message no. 2 On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, David Egeland wrote:

> In the discussion about an optional character creation procedure, I
> noticed that both Minotaur's and Ogre's were listed as player character
> races. Are there any rules for playing these kinds of characters, and if
> yes, where can I find them?

The Minotaur and Ogre are European phenotypes of the standard
Troll and Ork metahuman races respectively. They are found the the
Paranormal Animals of Europe sourcebook as a sort of aside. As far as
game mechanics goes, they use the same stat modifications, vision
enhancements, etc as normal orks and trolls, they just look different.
There are probably different cultural ramifications of this kind of
goblinization as well, but the book doesn't really go into that.

Marc

From:	"Blair A. Monroe" <bmonroe@******.FSU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Minotaur/Ogre-character's in Shadowrun
Date:	Fri, 11 Aug 1995 13:50:04 -0400

Message no. 3 >
> Hi!
>
> In the discussion about an optional character creation procedure, I
> noticed that both Minotaur's and Ogre's were listed as player character
> races. Are there any rules for playing these kinds of characters, and if
> yes, where can I find them?
>
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> [/////I/////(O)= David Egeland = davide@*********.no ==================>
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>

Minotaurs and ogres are in the European paranormal critter book. They are
a regional variation on Orks and Trolls. Basically, an Ogre has the same
stats as an ork but is a little shorter and more heavily built. Ogre's
also have more pronounced tusks and almost no hair. Minotaurs are the
same sort of thing, only modifying Trolls. They are a little
shorter...more heavily built...covered in a thin layer of fur, tend to
have pairs of upright horns and slightly animalike faces. Other than
their appearances they are mechanically the same as orks and trolls.

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From:	"Victor Rodriguez, Jr" <sedahdro@*****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Minotaur/Ogre-character's in Shadowrun
Date:	Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:04:00 EST

Message no. 4 David wrote:
>Hi!
>
>In the discussion about an optional character creation procedure, I
>noticed that both Minotaur's and Ogre's were listed as player character
>races. Are there any rules for playing these kinds of characters, and if
>yes, where can I find them?
I don't know where in the books you can find them. But Minotaur is a
genetic variant of a Troll that has a perfectly simetrical body. An Ogre is
a genetic variant of an Ork, slight more physically attractive than an Ork.
Both Ogres and Minataurs have the same bonuses and penalties as their
counterparts.
---Sedah Drol

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Minotaur/Ogre-character's in Shadowrun
Date:	Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:55:58 +0200

Message no. 5 >In the discussion about an optional character creation procedure, I
>noticed that both Minotaur's and Ogre's were listed as player character
>races. Are there any rules for playing these kinds of characters, and if
>yes, where can I find them?

There's two ways of doing this: 1) buy/beg/borrow/steal Paranormal Animals
of Europe, which says an ogre is an ork in game terms, but looks different,
and a minotaur is a ditto troll; 2) download/copy NERPS: Shadowlore, which
has game stats for ogres and minotaurs, making them new PC races.

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From:	Gary Carroll <gary@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Minotaur/Ogre-character's in Shadowrun
Date:	Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:41:46 -0700

Message no. 6 There is a section about them in the NERPS
shadowlore.

Human Halfling Minotaur Ogre
BODY 6 6 10(+4) 9 (+3)
QUICK 6 8 (+2) 6 6
STR 6 5 (-1) 9 (+3) 10 (+4)
CHAR 6 7 (+1) 4 (-2) 5 (-1)
INT 6 7 (+1) 5 (-1) 4 (-2)
WILL 6 6 5 (-1) 5 (-1)
ESS 6 6 6 6
REACT 6 7 5 5
EYES --- Low Lt Thermo Low Lt
SPEC 1 --- *1 *2 --
SPEC 2 --- -- *3 --
RUN x4 x3 x3 x4

*1 == Halflings receive a +1 die bonus when using Social Skills.
*2== Trolls and Minotaurs have a +1 Reach for Armed/Unarmed Combat.
*3== Minotaurs have a pair of horns that will do (Str)M physical
damage. This attack does not benefit from the +1 reach, though.

For more detail see Nerps Shadowlore.

Thanks
Gary C.

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