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Message no. 1
From: Dwayne MacKinnon <910252m@******.ACADIAU.CA>
Subject: Modifying Vehicles Question
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 16:09:08 -0300
Well,
Just wondering: can anyone hear come up with an imaginative,
plausible reason why adding the datjack link equipment to a vehicle
would cause the handling to go up by one? I've tried, and I've
failed. I'd think it should make handling EASIER, not harder, but the
book says "add", so.... :)
Also, here's a game "feel" question. What's the view on Riggers
taking air vehicles? Would it lead to the "separation" problem like
deckers? The reason I'm asking is that I'm making up a Rigger who has
a main van, but has enough money to get eanother vehicle. I'm considering
giving him a Skyshark LAV, but I don't know if it'd be worth it. He has a good
urban vehicle, maybe a good off-road one would be a better investment.
Something like a Landrover or something. What does everyone think?

DMK

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Dwayne MacKinnon My opinions are my own, never
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Message no. 2
From: Gary Carroll <gary@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Modifying Vehicles Question
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 13:42:38 -0700
>Dwayne Asks:
>Well,
> Just wondering: can anyone hear come up with an imaginative,
>plausible reason why adding the datjack link equipment to a
>vehicle would cause the handling to go up by one? I've tried,
>and I've failed. I'd think it should make handling EASIER, not
>harder, but the book says "add", so.... :)

Well from what I understood it is easier *there may be a fix
in the ERATTA*

> Also, here's a game "feel" question. What's the view on
>Riggers taking air vehicles? Would it lead to the "separation"
>problem like deckers? The reason I'm asking is that I'm making
>up a Rigger who has a main van, but has enough money to get
>another vehicle. I'm considering giving him a Skyshark LAV,
>but I don't know if it'd be worth it. He has a good urban
>vehicle, maybe a good off-road one would be a better investment.
>Something like a Landrover or something. What does everyone think?

Well half your money goes to rigger level 3 as far as cars...
Well my personal preference is a large van *seriously buffed up*
spending alot of money adding armor turbo, sensors, roll cage,
eccm, runflat, medium remote pop-up turret, etc...
then spending the rest on a drone rack and 4 or 5 drones with
camera's sensors, guns, *then a warehouse as living conditions
upstairs bedroom kitchen - downstairs garage with shop equipment.

as far as air vehicles anything that get's you off the ground is
awesome - but make it tough enough to withstand a firefight, or get
forged permits - good enough to get you through air traffic control.

Happy Riggin'

Thanks
Gary C.
Message no. 3
From: Mark Steedman <RSMS@******.EEE.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Modifying Vehicles Question
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 08:53:59 GMT
> From: Gary Carroll writes

> Well half your money goes to rigger level 3 as far as cars...
> Well my personal preference is a large van *seriously buffed up*
Canada bison, or anything that has moderate body and lots of storage
space, base prices 50 - 200K types.

> spending alot of money adding armor turbo, sensors, roll cage,
> eccm, runflat, medium remote pop-up turret, etc...
add some armour if needed. Ammount depends on GM rulings on subtlty
but about barrier 9 with the body slows most things down enough (if
that won't do you probably should not have attracted the attention)

> then spending the rest on a drone rack and 4 or 5 drones with
> camera's sensors, guns, *then a warehouse as living conditions
> upstairs bedroom kitchen - downstairs garage with shop equipment.
>
that warehouse is a real good idea.
also remember some cheap drones. Unmodified skimmer or balloons
for those have a look what is round the corner jobs, oh so it was 20
guards in military armour oops, oh well 2K for the new drone 'don't
go that way folks!!!' (also useful for exact C12 delivery he he)

> as far as air vehicles anything that
> get's you off the ground is
> awesome - but make it tough enough to withstand a firefight, or get
> forged permits - good enough to get you through air traffic control.
>
only hitch is cost, a chopper worth the name is far too expensive,
however some of the drones are ok, try rotor drone and mount Ranger
arms sm3, ''god' in the sky, sniper time' .

> Happy Riggin'
>
> Thanks
> Gary C.
>

Mark
Message no. 4
From: Andre' Selmer <031SEA@******.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject: Re: Modifying Vehicles Question
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 10:20:29 +0200
:->Well,
:-> Just wondering: can anyone hear come up with an imaginative,
:->plausible reason why adding the datjack link equipment to a vehicle
:->would cause the handling to go up by one? I've tried, and I've
:->failed. I'd think it should make handling EASIER, not harder, but the
:->book says "add", so.... :)

I have no direct explination, i is the same with the auto pilot. The
only solution (a tenative one at that) that I can come up with is
that the data jack gives you partial access to the controls, hence
you have to use a mixture of your basic motor functions plus brain
(the brain is faster) hence you have split concentration, parts of
the vehical react faster than others with the result of jumpiness. (I
said it was tenative)

:-> Also, here's a game "feel" question. What's the view on
Riggers
:->taking air vehicles? Would it lead to the "separation" problem like
:->deckers? The reason I'm asking is that I'm making up a Rigger who has
:->a main van, but has enough money to get eanother vehicle. I'm considering
:->giving him a Skyshark LAV, but I don't know if it'd be worth it. He has a good
:->urban vehicle, maybe a good off-road one would be a better investment.
:->Something like a Landrover or something. What does everyone think?
:->

Yes to the seperation problem, and buy the plane. Our team eventually
decided to pool resources to buy our first one. After all the hastles
we had on our last few runs (and what the rigger we hired to jump the
boarder cost us) it makes good economic sence.

Andre'
Oh-no, Look what you've done now.... The end of the world is com..
Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Modifying Vehicles Question
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:09:38 +0200
> Just wondering: can anyone hear come up with an imaginative,
>plausible reason why adding the datjack link equipment to a vehicle
>would cause the handling to go up by one? I've tried, and I've
>failed. I'd think it should make handling EASIER, not harder, but the
>book says "add", so.... :)

The Handling increase is for people who are _not_ using a datajack, IMHO.
The reason could be something like modification of the controls or something...


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Message no. 6
From: Peter Bailey <pbailey@*****.IPSWICHCITY.QLD.GOV.AU>
Subject: Re: Modifying Vehicles Question
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 21:52:48 +0200
Hi Dwayne,

> Well,
> Just wondering: can anyone hear come up with an imaginative,
> plausible reason why adding the datjack link equipment to a vehicle
> would cause the handling to go up by one? I've tried, and I've
> failed. I'd think it should make handling EASIER, not harder, but the
> book says "add", so.... :)
> Also, here's a game "feel" question. What's the view on Riggers
> taking air vehicles? Would it lead to the "separation" problem like
> deckers? The reason I'm asking is that I'm making up a Rigger who has
> a main van, but has enough money to get eanother vehicle. I'm considering
> giving him a Skyshark LAV, but I don't know if it'd be worth it. He has a good
> urban vehicle, maybe a good off-road one would be a better investment.
> Something like a Landrover or something. What does everyone think?

Well, my rigger is called "Remote" for a very good reason. She very rarely
takes here meat body out any closer to a job than she absolutely has to. It
works well for her. She has a rating 4 remote control deck and every one of
her vehicles is set up for remote rigging. This becomes a very effective
force amplifier. Indeed the other players tend to use her vehicles/skills
as more or less an Air Cavalry unit.

If you decide to use that sort of an idea, I've found that a mix of rotor
drones, crawlers, and a "heavy hitter" drone works well. If you like I can
knock up a bit of a list of her drones for you, and/or tell you about some
of her expolits. :-)

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