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From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Jason Spadaro)
Subject:	Mono-weave armor
Date:	Tue Aug 28 18:40:01 2001

Message no. 1 Hmmm... Looks like it's _theoreticaly_ possible to have armor the
needed strength, but how feasible is it to even exist. A trillion
trillion nuyen (or what ever it was quoted) is impossibly high for PC's
to own (or maybe it isn't and I'm just really stingy with my PC's cash
:) ). Also, is it possible to achieve the necessary manufacturing and
weaving techniques with Shadowrun tech? Actually, if nano's made this
(the only feasible way I can see) it might be cheaper than estimated.

-Cthulhupunk

From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Graht)
Subject:	Mono-weave armor
Date:	Tue Aug 28 18:55:00 2001

Message no. 2 At 06:43 PM 8/28/2001 -0400, Jason Spadaro wrote:
>Hmmm... Looks like it's _theoreticaly_ possible to have armor the
>needed strength, but how feasible is it to even exist. A trillion
>trillion nuyen (or what ever it was quoted) is impossibly high for PC's
>to own (or maybe it isn't and I'm just really stingy with my PC's cash
>:) ). Also, is it possible to achieve the necessary manufacturing and
>weaving techniques with Shadowrun tech? Actually, if nano's made this
>(the only feasible way I can see) it might be cheaper than estimated.

Can you imagine the amount of wear and tear monowire would generate on a
weaving machine? If the cost of the monowire isn't prohibitive, the
manufacturing process would be, IMHO.

To Life,
-Graht
ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader II
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From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject:	Mono-weave armor
Date:	Wed Aug 29 02:50:05 2001

Message no. 3 Jason Spadaro writes:

> Hmmm... Looks like it's _theoreticaly_ possible to have armor the
> needed strength, but how feasible is it to even exist. A trillion
> trillion nuyen (or what ever it was quoted) is impossibly high for PC's
> to own (or maybe it isn't and I'm just really stingy with my PC's cash
> :) ). Also, is it possible to achieve the necessary manufacturing and
> weaving techniques with Shadowrun tech? Actually, if nano's made this
> (the only feasible way I can see) it might be cheaper than estimated.

Given the difficulties of handling monowire, some sort of nanotech assembly
process would probably have to be used. Creating ceramic weaving equipment
might be possible, but would be an extremely arduous design task for some
poor engineer :-).

In M&M, nanobots are used to actually make monowire, at a cost of 2000 nuyen
per meter. This implies that it's a rather difficult expensive process to
manufacture monowire, even using nanotechnology. Maybe the process is very
very slow (atmoic level assembly probably would be), or perhaps there is a
very high failure rate (make 1km of monowire, and you'll get 5m of usable
material out of it, because all it takes is 1 defect to ruin the perfect
structure), or maybe the conditions need to be extremely precise (temperature
-150.5505 oC, pressure 12.8 uT, less than 3 parts per trillion oxygen
contamination, etc, etc).

I'd say that the entire assembly would probably have to be made in-situ. ie,
rather than making 0.02 light years worth of monowire, and then nanoweaving
it into a jacket, you'd need to get your half a kilo (or whatever) of
carbon, and nano create the entire jacket, woven monowire and all. This
would, understandably, be more difficult to do than merely creating a simple
thread of monowire, and the process would probably be, if anything, even
more expensive than purchasing the raw materials.

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong
Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au
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