| From: | "James W. Thomas" <cm5323@***.AC.UK> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: monowires |
| Date: | Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:59:15 +0000 |
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:03:23 +1100
> From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
> Subject: Monowire is just plain silly.
>
> There are so many absurdities with monofilament:
>
> 1) It would be harder to control than a mediaeval mace. Did you know
> that one theory as to why there are so many well-preserved specimens
> of mace, hanging on walls in stately homes and castles in England, is
> the idea that they were used until the wielder nearly killed himself
> with it.
> Yet the SR rules still give an absurdly low fumble chance for the weapon.
<CHOPPER> it IS difficult to control
and i think you meen a Morning star, the spiky ball on a chain
weapon
>
> 2) If it's fine enough to cut through `almost anything' with little effort,
> then it must not be using much energy. So it must not be permanently
> breaking the chemical and electrostatic bonds of the material. So the
> bonds would reform as it passed through, and the object would take little
> damage because it would hardly cause a ripple as it passed through.
<CHOPPER> you ever do physics?
pressure = force / area or something...
your swinging a heavy weight to generate a force, and focusing
it onto a 7nm thread. thats a big cutting force.
> 3) The material science belongs far in the future, even if it were ever
> possible. If the monofilament is sufficiently strong to work as
> described, it must have far greater strength than any other material.
> So you'd have woven ropes with load strengths of thousands of tons;
> skyscrapers to the top of the atmosphere ... etc. etc.
<CHOPPER> it exists currently, in fractions of a millimeter
lenghts, no ones sussed how to make it longer
YES, you would have a great building material
>
> 4) If it can't cut through `everything', then it would be easy to have
> tangler-pieces on batons or even armour. So you'd easily disarm whip-
> wielders, or trap the sorry bastards by their finger if they were
> stupid enough to have it implanted in a finger.
<CHOPPER>in 'Voice of the whirlwind' the monowhip catches onto
the armour in a armour jacket and doesn't cut.
> The only reason it's there is because it appears in so many cyberpunk
> novels. This is a bad reason, in my opinion.
<CHOPPER> its cos the stuff is COOL!
> luke
>
> ------------------------------ +0100
> From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
> Subject: Re: Monowire is just plain silly.
>
> >There are so many absurdities with monofilament:
> What about number 5?
>
> 5) if monowire cuts through everything, how can you wind it on a spool? Or
> tie it to the posts of a fence? Assuming it can't cut itself really well, if
> you tie it around the post, you have to pull the wire, which then slices
> through the post...
> You could avoid this by making the wire thicker every couple of meters, but
> then you'd have to put your posts apart by a specific distance all the time.
<CHOPPER> the book method is a high density ceramic
'one of the new ono-sendai diamond analogs' to quote mr gibson
The wire cuts like a razor, so it'll cut the weaker of the two,
the reel or the guy who walked onto it
>
> Gurth@******.nl or Gurth@***.nl
> De elektronische B-weg...
>
> From: Martin Steffens <BDI05626@***.RHIJ.NL>
>
> [stuff deleted]
> > <CHOPPER> as the implanted monowhip is from 'Johnie Mneumonic'
> > i'll quote from there.
> > the tip of the Yak Assasins thumb is 'As heavy as lead'.
> > So the prosthetic thumbtip has been modified to include either
> > dense metals or ceramic composites that give it weight.
> > > > Ergo, point 1: the whip cannot be given much momentum e.g. the
> > > > whipping action (try to whip with a piece of thin thread and a small
> > > > thing and the top, then you see what I mean).
> > <CHOPPER> the tip IS weighted
> Yeah, fiction differs from reality in a lot of areas. If you make the
> finger tip much heavier, you're bound to end up with damaged joints
> and/or irritated points of attachment of your tendrons (as long as
> you're not using a cyberarm off course).
<CHOPPER> if your paying to put the whip in, may as well get
your tendons reworked and joints coated into the bargain
> [rest of message deleted]
> > Personally, i'd put the monowire into a hot air handdryer so
> > when the air comes on it takes your hands off in chunks
> > or
> > Mix with mace in a can so its shot into someones face at
> > speed.and then they put there hands to there face...
> >
>
> Ai, nasty idea's :-). Only when would you use the first idea?
<CHOPPER> to kill a guy in a corp offices exec toilets.
you go in disguised as 'sanitary engineers'
> As long as we are thinking evil, how about this: AA-grenades with
> monowire? Think what happens if one of the strands gets into the
> motor or rotors.
>
> BTW I agree with Luke Kendall that the idea of monowire is a bit
> silly, but hell, its fun to use.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Martin
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:53:00 GMT
> From: Inquisitor <ESPD92MS@****.ANGLIA-POLYTECHNIC.AC.UK>
> Subject: Re: x-frame
>
> CHOPPER, you got any military experience? If so which country/force?
<CHOPPER> no military experience, i just get drunk witha couple
of mates in the army whenever they're back.
> From: "Bracket <la7hfw@*****.ucc.hull.ac.uk>"
<H.F.Wolverson@***.HULL.AC.UK>
> > Rek you could play someone so calm?
>
> I did, for a while. Until someone hit him with a Barret sniper rifle, he
> was pretty effective.... then he fluffed his rolls, and wound up dead. Oh
> well, c'est la vie. He was pretty formidable in combat, before he died,
> though! [and *very* hard work to play, which is why I enjoyed it so much]
<CHOPPER> i forgot to Mention
Never stand out in a crowd!
bad luck on the sniper hit...not much you could do to stop that
sorta thing
>
