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Message no. 1
From: James A Riegel <riegelja@*******.MSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MOnty Hall
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:06:02 -0400
Damion writes...
>
> Could ya just define "Monty Hall" for me, I remember reading something
about
> it somewhere (alongside munchkinism I think) but I cant rememebr what it
> reffered to. Ta
>
> Damion
>

Essentially. I belive it was coined mostly for AD&D. Monty Hall is the host
of let's make a Deal. Monty gaming is basically incredibly overpowered
unchallenging and just plain lame. A good example is the campaign that 9 out
of 10 AD&D players have experienced...Going to hell and clearng out most of the
nine planes. (or at least killing Tiamat without breakng a sweat). In SR it
would be the equivalent of wiping out the entire Red Samrai alone, Rewriting
the entire Renraku computer structure without setting off an alarm, then
casting a force 34 Decrease Cybered Reaction -4 without taking any drain.

In other words, gaming without challenge.

Jim
Message no. 2
From: Gian-Paolo Musumeci <musumeci@***.LIS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: MOnty Hall
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:11:42 -0500
Hey. I once upon a time had ONE character that managed to kill Tiamat. ;-)
Message no. 3
From: the holy Entombed <rasputin@***.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: MOnty Hall
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:44:49 -0400
Okay, I know cakewalking is an integral part of a "Monty Haulish"
campaign, but I had always understood that the larger part consisted of
the rewards given to characters.

For example, a Monty Haul adventure in Shadowrun would likely
consist of the runners taking out a couple of sammies and being rewarded
with 24 karma per character and a warehouse well stocked with brand new
MP laser systems, mortars, shells, Panther Cannons, Vindicators, and
100,000 rounds of APDS ammunition, all sitting under two gleaming 2055
Banshees (with leather, A/C, and those little windshield wipers for the
headlights) parked on the roof, right next to a little valet holding the
keys and a hot towel for everyone.

I've experienced the AD&D equivalent, but I've only actually been
a Shadowrun PLAYER twice, and the GMs were anything but Monty Haul
wannabees...

I know this list has experienced this before, but I wouldn't mind
reading stories from those who've played in Haulish Shadowrun
adventures. If you've GMed that sort of thing, keep it to yourself. The
carp are always at the ready...


On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, Gian-Paolo Musumeci wrote:

> Hey. I once upon a time had ONE character that managed to kill Tiamat. ;-)

Yeah... I had an eighth level Ranger that waltzed through the nine hells
and wiped out all of the arch-devils, six of them with psionics.

Asmodeus with a Power Word, Kill.



Yours in Christ,

the holy Entombed
Rasputin the (not so) Horrible
rasputin@***.umd.edu


PS- Did I mention the Banshees were filled with 5000 =Y= certified
credsticks?

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