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Message no. 1
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: More Frames
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 11:19:34 -0700
>>I took a good long look at VR last night and I got to admit I have
>>changed my mind about frames slightly. I think that they CAN operate
>>without a connection to the deck. BUT I do not think that they may
>>perform system functions. Reasoning:

>>Frames are viral constructs. What would a frame need a deck for. It fits with
>>their explanation better that they may be autonomous. Even smart frames are
>>not going to be able to get around simple Security measures to perform system
>>functions.

Not to insult your intelligence, but I still must disagree. A frame is
autonomous in the fact that it can act on its own. I find the FASA definition
of a frame as a viral construct to be a throw away term considering their
apparent knowledge of computers. Also if I remember correctly frames require
a controller program to be running in the cyberdeck while they are active. I
just can't remember if that's for all frames or just dumb frames (I really must
get the VR book back in my hands).

As for programs to do those things frames cannot, they have merit. Just be
careful while your writing them up.

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker
Message no. 2
From: Todd Montgomery <tmont@****.WVU.EDU>
Subject: More Frames
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 14:38:24 -0400
> From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>

> Not to insult your intelligence, but I still must disagree. A frame is
> autonomous in the fact that it can act on its own. I find the FASA definition
> of a frame as a viral construct to be a throw away term considering their
> apparent knowledge of computers. Also if I remember correctly frames require
> a controller program to be running in the cyberdeck while they are active. I
> just can't remember if that's for all frames or just dumb frames (I really
must
> get the VR book back in my hands).
>

Smart frames do not require a controller. And dumb frames have T# +
for being a certain distance away. So dumb frames just could not
operate awy from the deck. I was referring to smart frames.

> As for programs to do those things frames cannot, they have merit. Just be
> careful while your writing them up.

O Ye of little faith. I hope you do not see me as a munchkin after all
this time, Nightstalker.

-- Quiktek
a.k.a. Todd Montgomery
tmont@****.wvu.edu
tmont@***.wvu.edu
un032507@*******.wvnet.edu
Message no. 3
From: Dave Sherohman <esper@*****.IMA.UMN.EDU>
Subject: Re: More Frames
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 14:18:36 -0500
> Also if I remember correctly frames require
>a controller program to be running in the cyberdeck while they are active. I
>just can't remember if that's for all frames or just dumb frames (I really must
>get the VR book back in my hands).

That's only the dumb ones; the main advantage of smart frames is that they
don't need Controller.

esper@***.umn.edu

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