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Message no. 1
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:55:57 -0500
At 20-Jul-97 wrote Mike (Leszek Karlik):

MUNCHKIN ALARM TAKE COVER


>I've been reading through the Paranoid Animals of NA, and saw the
>Speed Samurai archetype...

Speed Samurai in the PnAoNA ??
How did you do that ??

>Now, think about that: a physical adept (or, better yet, physical
>mage) with at least 1st grade initation (so he can have the +2D6
>bioware and the max. adept initiative increase (+3D6) for IIRC 5
>magic points...). Now, that gives him a 6D6 initiative, but that's
>not all... Now, add an increase reflexes +3D6 spell, for a total of
>9D6 initiative. And now Critterform him into a tiger or a panther,
>for an additional 2D6 to initiative. Voila, a whopping 11D6
>initiative, for an average roll of 33, whitout counting the reaction.
>Make the critterform force 6, cast with 6 magic pool and 12 successes
>(Karma and Team Karma), that adds +6 to all physical attributes of
>the tiger, increasing the reaction by 3 (at least).

Take a shapshifter leopard or tiger physical shaman instead.
8d6 in humanform or 10 d6 in animal form.
If the GM allows you can even add a synaptic 2
going for 10d6/12d6
the only problen is the implantation of the BW and you should at least be an
initiate 2 to counter the magic loss..

>(I think I should be shot, to miminalize the suffering of my
>immediate entourage. Heh. :P )

Fire at will guys!!!!


>(Of course, one could say that in critterform, the bioware bonus does
>not apply... In that case, skip the critterform unless you want to
>engage in HTH, or rather HTP combat. Still, you've got yourself an
>adept with 9D6 initiative. Add the raise reaction power, raise
>attribute spells and you've got one fast fragger. Also, he should be
>rather high-graded init to mask all that Christmas lights, err..
>spell locks. :P Or, while we're at it, give the initiate physad a
>beta or delta-grade wired 3 instead of the bioware - if you allow
>spell and cyberware stacking. Which is not appilcable in any sane
>campaign...).

With the critterform spell you will loss the BW/CW effects.
And theres something beter to do than initiate to counter the magic loss
from implants with your karma. belive me I know.


BTW I go with 30 + 6d6 and a +15 from taccomp and since we have
a battleTAC link which adds another 10-20 (operator dependant).
i can savely say I`m real fast and the others are only 20 points behind me
:-)))


MUNCHKIN ALARM OVER ALL IS SAFE AGAIN

please keep your replay to field clear it makes live easier for us

--
Barbie


==================================================
You can see the earth we`re high here we`re
climbing over sumertowm you can kiss the air we`re
gliding follow me for sumerland no sound no life
no essence we lay enstranged in our curious ways
memories lay beside us but i`m seeing through an
age who i`m through sumerland.

(Fields of the Nephilim-Eilzium-Weil of Sumer)

Message no. 2
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:16:19 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-20 12:00:23 EDT, barbie@**********.COM (Barbie)
writes:

>
>
> BTW I go with 30 + 6d6 and a +15 from taccomp and since we have
> a battleTAC link which adds another 10-20 (operator dependant).
> i can savely say I`m real fast and the others are only 20 points behind me
> :-)))
>
>
Uh, Barbie, how in the name of the ghost do you pull off a 30? I've seen the
17 to 21 on a "speed freak" but beyond that, I don't know. I'm muy
curiosantes...
-Keith
Message no. 3
From: "Mike (Leszek Karlik)" <trrkt@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:25:43 +0000
Hmmm...

> MUNCHKIN ALARM TAKE COVER

<wide, sheepish grin>

(or is that carpish grin?)

> >I've been reading through the Paranoid Animals of NA, and saw the
> >Speed Samurai archetype...
>
> Speed Samurai in the PnAoNA ??
> How did you do that ??

OK, so maybe it was in some other Plastic Warriors... I've read
through all of them in one night, so I could have made a mistake...

<munchkin example shown cloaked>

> Take a shapshifter leopard or tiger physical shaman instead.
> 8d6 in humanform or 10 d6 in animal form.
> If the GM allows you can even add a synaptic 2
> going for 10d6/12d6
> the only problen is the implantation of the BW and you should at least be an
> initiate 2 to counter the magic loss..

Damn. I know I SHOULD have persuaded my GM to get that SR Companion
through mail order, not matter what the cost. :>
I wonder when will it be available in here...

> >(I think I should be shot, to miminalize the suffering of my
> >immediate entourage. Heh. :P )
>
> Fire at will guys!!!!

Thwapthwapthwapthwap. <click>
Oh well...

<FZOOK>


.
> >spell locks. :P Or, while we're at it, give the initiate physad a
> >beta or delta-grade wired 3 instead of the bioware - if you allow
> >spell and cyberware stacking. Which is not appilcable in any sane
> >campaign...).
>
> With the critterform spell you will loss the BW/CW effects.
> And theres something beter to do than initiate to counter the magic loss
> from implants with your karma. belive me I know.

Yep. I know it too, but this was about speed, not other abilities...

> BTW I go with 30 + 6d6 and a +15 from taccomp and since we have
> a battleTAC link which adds another 10-20 (operator dependant).
> i can savely say I`m real fast and the others are only 20 points behind me
> :-)))

<GRIN>

Ever seen an Order of CuChullain physical adept with bioware, taccomp
and 2,5 point in enhanced senses? :P

> MUNCHKIN ALARM OVER ALL IS SAFE AGAIN
>
> please keep your replay to field clear it makes live easier for us

I did... (Well, now I did for sure...)


Mike (Leszek Karlik) - trrkt@******.com; http://www.wlkp.top.pl/~bear/mike
FL/GN Leszek/Raptor II/ISD Vanguard, (ISM) {IWATS-IIC} JH(Sith)/House Scholae Palatinae
(Emperor's Hammer)
Cyclist have it between their legs.
Message no. 4
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 04:02:35 -0500
At 20-Jul-97 wrote Mike (Leszek Karlik):



>Damn. I know I SHOULD have persuaded my GM to get that SR Companion
>through mail order, not matter what the cost. :>
>I wonder when will it be available in here...

The companion is nice but the official rule about the shapeshifter are re=
aly
§$%$(/%$$%&/&/( we ditched them in the first second.

>Yep. I know it too, but this was about speed, not other abilities...

But speed alone is not enough to consider, always take care of the
larger picture.


>Ever seen an Order of CuChullain physical adept with bioware, taccomp
>and 2,5 point in enhanced senses? :P

Yup, he was dead before his turn came.


-- =

Barbie


==========================
==========================

You can see the earth we`re high here we`re
climbing over sumertowm you can kiss the air we`re
gliding follow me for sumerland no sound no life
no essence we lay enstranged in our curious ways
memories lay beside us but i`m seeing through an
age who i`m through sumerland.

(Fields of the Nephilim-Eilzium-Weil of Sumer)

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Message no. 5
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 04:37:12 -0500
At 20-Jul-97 wrote J. Keith Henry:

>Uh, Barbie, how in the name of the ghost do you pull off a 30? I've seen the
>17 to 21 on a "speed freak" but beyond that, I don't know. I'm muy
>curiosantes...

Ok, Keith just for your curiosity:
First its in animal form :-)
18 from attributes
3 lightning reflexes
6 reaction enhancer
1 enhanced atriculation
2 from the shapeshifter

In human form the last one doesn`t count so its 28.

To clear things even more we don`t use the silly compainon rules for
shapeshifter.
We have revers engineered the npc stats for them.
Mainly because the compainon was not on the horizon when we needed shapeshifer
rules.
And normaly our shapshifter can`t get implantes but this character is special
she is not born as animal. She became a shapeshifter because the GM used her
for a guinea pig after she had all the implants. From that point on her live
was realy
hard, today she had barly controll over her new powers.
Another special rule is that when you become something with regeneration
or shapealtering powers AFTER you had some implantes they stay within your
body but its not possible to alter some of the implats after that through
operations or so
they can only be damaged but not repaired anymore.
So in the long run it doesn`t count.
I can`t even get rid of my cortexbombs<sigh>
And if someone discovers that I`m a shapshifter I will be in deep deep shit.
Since that special case had happened only once in five years and until today
noone of my group had tried to misuse these rules, it worked for us.

Hope this makes things clearer.
--
Barbie


==================================================
You can see the earth we`re high here we`re
climbing over sumertowm you can kiss the air we`re
gliding follow me for sumerland no sound no life
no essence we lay enstranged in our curious ways
memories lay beside us but i`m seeing through an
age who i`m through sumerland.

(Fields of the Nephilim-Eilzium-Weil of Sumer)

Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:01:18 +0100
Barbie said on 17:55/20 Jul 97...

> >I've been reading through the Paranoid Animals of NA, and saw the
> >Speed Samurai archetype...
>
> Speed Samurai in the PnAoNA ??
> How did you do that ??

ParaNOID, not ParaNORMAL. Available from my WWW page, if you have the time
and inclination to download about 2 MB. Everybody seems to think the pics
on the back are a joke about CCGs, but they're not...

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Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Munchkin man
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:10:45 +0100
|> Speed Samurai in the PnAoNA ??
|> How did you do that ??
|
|OK, so maybe it was in some other Plastic Warriors... I've read
|through all of them in one night, so I could have made a mistake...

I should hope so. PNAoNA is genuine FASA, not plastic warriors....
Or did you mean PARANOID animals of north america?????

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