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Message no. 1
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:12:15 -0700
| You wrote:
| > Well certainly it isn't something that you just cast willy nilly as it
does
| > do stun damage albeit light, but as a shadowrunner I really wasn't
overly
| > concerned about whether it was legal or not...only cast on an unwilling
| > target twice I think (and one of those was a teammember for there own
| > good).
| And I wasn't really talking about legality. I'd find it incredibly rude,
| almost on the level of rape. Just because it's magically created doesn't
mean
| you're not responsible for your actions...

Oh no I understood that...of course it is rude...I wouldn't put it anywhere
near the act of rape as it is completely non-violent, but of all the spells
you could cast on someone it's hardly the worst. Would you rather have an
orgams and get tired or burn to death as your head explodes?

-Caric

"If a man talks in the forest, and there isn't a woman around to hear him,
is he still wrong?"
Message no. 2
From: "Bruce H. Nagel" <NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:39:16 -0500
You wrote:
> Oh no I understood that...of course it is rude...I wouldn't put it anywhere
> near the act of rape as it is completely non-violent,
Define violence as you will, but I generally define it as someone doing what
they want to with my body without my permission. This counts... It's not
putting someone to sleep to avoid killing them, it's an invasion of privacy and
humiliating.

but of all the spells
> you could cast on someone it's hardly the worst. Would you rather have an
> orgasm and get tired or burn to death as your head explodes?

That really isn't the point. 'Would you rather be raped or murdered?' isn't a
fair choice, neither is something you should do to someone, eh? Some people
view sex pretty seriously, and this would be an extreme violation, doing it to
someone against their will (as opposed to voluntarily, which is an original and
interesting idea :) is the equivalent of taking control of their most personal
thoughts and desires. Not nice.

To those who think I'm taking this too seriously, well, *shrug*

losthalo
Message no. 3
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:01:31 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-11 13:48:37 EDT, NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
(Bruce H. Nagel) writes:

> Define violence as you will, but I generally define it as someone doing
what
> they want to with my body without my permission. This counts... It's not
> putting someone to sleep to avoid killing them, it's an invasion of
privacy
> and
> humiliating.

True, but for a game theme, it can be performed, just with caution for those
in mind...unless you intended what I did, go for the shock value of some
players whom have become to smug in their own actions and abuses...

>
> but of all the spells
> > you could cast on someone it's hardly the worst. Would you rather have
an
> > orgasm and get tired or burn to death as your head explodes?
>
> That really isn't the point. 'Would you rather be raped or murdered?'
isn't
> a
> fair choice, neither is something you should do to someone, eh? Some
people
> view sex pretty seriously, and this would be an extreme violation, doing
it
> to
> someone against their will (as opposed to voluntarily, which is an
original
> and
> interesting idea :) is the equivalent of taking control of their most
> personal
> thoughts and desires. Not nice.
>
> To those who think I'm taking this too seriously, well, *shrug*
>
> losthalo

Halo, sorry I said. I wasn't trying to start a war here. And yes, you are
right, sexual "non-aggressive" violence does exist. In SR's "world"
it would
definitely exist. Adam (admin), I guess you are right, this does fall under
the category of "adult-theme" content. I will try and be more responsible in
the future postings of such.

-K

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