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Message no. 1
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your Spells,Bring
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:16:22 -0700
:
| > Not a bad idea...I could always post Orgasm to the list. :)
| > It's already up on Loki's page though...got me into a few bars that
little
| > guy did.
| Okay, I can see this as a popular and funny little spell, but it also has
| certain... moral implications. Seriously, how would you like it if some
guy
| came along and made you spontaneously orgasm?

Well certainly it isn't something that you just cast willy nilly as it does
do stun damage albeit light, but as a shadowrunner I really wasn't overly
concerned about whether it was legal or not...only cast on an unwilling
target twice I think (and one of those was a teammember for there own
good).

-Caric

"If a man talks in the forest, and there isn't a woman around to hear him,
is he still wrong?"
Message no. 2
From: "Bruce H. Nagel" <NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your Spells,Bring
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:16:11 -0500
You wrote:
> Well certainly it isn't something that you just cast willy nilly as it does
> do stun damage albeit light, but as a shadowrunner I really wasn't overly
> concerned about whether it was legal or not...only cast on an unwilling
> target twice I think (and one of those was a teammember for there own
> good).
And I wasn't really talking about legality. I'd find it incredibly rude,
almost on the level of rape. Just because it's magically created doesn't mean
you're not responsible for your actions...

losthalo
Message no. 3
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your Spells,Bring
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:52:30 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-11 04:11:11 EDT, NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
(Bruce H. Nagel) writes:

> > good).
> And I wasn't really talking about legality. I'd find it incredibly rude,
> almost on the level of rape. Just because it's magically created doesn't
> mean
> you're not responsible for your actions...
>
>
OOOHHH Big fight topic here at the home game. Responsible Magicians....that
sounds like a flame war or worse in the making...
-K
Message no. 4
From: "Bruce H. Nagel" <NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your Spells,Bring
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 20:12:11 -0500
You wrote:
> OOOHHH Big fight topic here at the home game. Responsible Magicians....that
> sounds like a flame war or worse in the making...
I'm just talking about the fact that people are treating lightly something that
to some would really mess them up. A lot of people are really sensitive about
sex, though many don't realize this. They think that everyone would rather be
having sex, because they would, and that anyone would like an orgasm 'free of
charge', and that it's just funny... If you held someone down and stimulated
them (without permission) until they had an orgasm, would it be wrong? Really
wrong? This is the same thing, you just don't have to touch them because magic
will let you do it... Someone did that to me, they'd better watch their back.

losthalo
Message no. 5
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Mysticism [New Spells for Old,or Bring out your Spells,Bring
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:52:04 -0700
Bruce H. Nagel wrote:

> > OOOHHH Big fight topic here at the home game. Responsible Magicians....that
> > sounds like a flame war or worse in the making...

I don't think that we have to worry about that.

> I'm just talking about the fact that people are treating lightly something that
> to some would really mess them up. A lot of people are really sensitive about
> sex, though many don't realize this. They think that everyone would rather be
> having sex, because they would, and that anyone would like an orgasm 'free of
> charge', and that it's just funny...

I don't think that is the case at all, we all know that some people are
more sensitive to that particular topic then others, but know one ever
said that everyone would like and it should be the best spell ever.


If you held someone down and stimulated
> them (without permission) until they had an orgasm, would it be wrong? Really
> wrong?

Yes, but it would also be impossible in most cases. You were the one to
bring up the mental aspect of an orgasm...you can't force someone to be
sexually aroused...you could tie them down and manipulate all you
wanted, but unless they were in some odd way enjoying it they would not
have an orgasm.


This is the same thing, you just don't have to touch them because magic
> will let you do it... Someone did that to me, they'd better watch their back.

Will do :)

Caric

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