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Message no. 1
From: Stuart Marsh <sam10@***.AC.UK>
Subject: NAGM
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:20:33 +0000
This neo anarchists guide to magic, is it a real shadowrun product which is
going to be published or just something on the net.

I have just read Bug city, oh boy oh boy oh boy are some runners going to be
shocked. Especialy if they are running in chacargo on the eventful day, evil
grin.

Cinder
Message no. 2
From: "Thomas W. Craig" <Craigtw1@***.COM>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 16:34:43 -0500
NAGM is a real product that was playtested on AOL and Genie...I have one of
the play-testing copies, but I don't quote from it very often.
Tom Craig
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 11:20:40 +0100
>This neo anarchists guide to magic, is it a real shadowrun product which is
>going to be published or just something on the net.

It's an official product, supposed to come out around October, I believe.


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Message no. 4
From: Electric Monk <goehrigd@****.CANISIUS.EDU>
Subject: NAGM
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 09:40:54 -0400
On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Damion Milliken wrote:

I think Gurth said. > BTW, what's the NAGM? > > -- > Damion Milliken

Might it be the infamous Neo Anarchists Guide to Magic that only a few have
seen?

--==<< Electric Monk >>==--
Message no. 5
From: P Ward <P.Ward@**.CF.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:34:54 BST
Wait a minute, what exactly is in your copy of the NAGA?

I have something with voodoo, and stuf flike that in it.

Same volume?

Phil (Renegade)
Message no. 6
From: Bob Ooton <topcat@**.CENCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 11:53:38 -0500
>Wait a minute, what exactly is in your copy of the NAGA?
>
>I have something with voodoo, and stuf flike that in it.

It could be. I have the voudoun rules as well as phys mag rules in mine,
not to mention a lot of things that clari-/obscuri- fy magic in Shadowrun.
The bulk of the "book" seems to deal pretty heavily with the voudoun
concept. It does call itself the NAGA, but semi-official word puts it as NAGM.


-- Bob Ooton <topcat@***.com.net>
Message no. 7
From: Damion Milliken <adm82@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 16:03:19 +1000
P Ward writes:

> Wait a minute, what exactly is in your copy of the NAGA?
>
> I have something with voodoo, and stuf flike that in it.
>
> Same volume?

Yeah, I think so. It has paranormal animal totems and rules
expansions/clarifications and so on. Different kinds of wards and that kind
of stuff. And a big section on voodoo.

My problem is trying to get Word for Windoze 6 to accept the Francis font I
downloaded from Paolos WWW pages. Buggered if I can work out how to do it.
Any Windoze gurus out there who have an idea?

--
Damion Milliken Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: adm82@***.edu.au

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Message no. 8
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 02:09:15 -0400
On Sun, 16 Apr 1995, Damion Milliken wrote:

> My problem is trying to get Word for Windoze 6 to accept the Francis font I
> downloaded from Paolos WWW pages. Buggered if I can work out how to do it.
> Any Windoze gurus out there who have an idea?

Do you have the font itself on file? If so, you can just go to
the "fonts" folder somewhere in the "System" file in windows. It will
have an "add fonts" button in there. You just click on that and it will ask
you what fonts you want to add and you just go from there.

Marc
Message no. 9
From: Damion Milliken <adm82@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 19:40:53 +1000
Thanks to Marc and Gurth for the Windoze tips. I was trying to figure out
how to get Word to accept the new font, not Windoze. I've worked it out now,
thanks guys.

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong E-mail: adm82@***.edu.au

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Message no. 10
From: GR DIRK KENNETH W <DIRKKENN@***.ISU.EDU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:58:43 MST
Hi folks,
I'm fairly new so don't flame me if this is a stupid question.
In following the discussion on the Neo Anarchist's Guide to Magic
(or the Awakened as it may be called) I have a question reguarding
the Physical Mage. Do they automatically have astral perception
or do they have to spend 2 magic points to aquire the power like
normal phys ads? Finally, if I don't have access to AOL how can
I go about getting a copy of NAGM?

Thanks in advance,

-DrugDoc
Message no. 11
From: GR DIRK KENNETH W <DIRKKENN@***.ISU.EDU>
Subject: NAGM
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:20:20 MST
Hi folks,
I'm new so don't flame me if these are stupid questions.
This reguards the physical mage that has been discussed--
from the NAGM (or NAGA if you prefer). I would like to know if
these physical mages automatically gain astral perception or
do they have to purchase the power like normal phys ads? Also,
is there any way to get a copy of the NAGM if I don't have
access to AOL? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
-DrugDoc
Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:21:49 +0200
>I would like to know if
> these physical mages automatically gain astral perception or
> do they have to purchase the power like normal phys ads?

The NAGM says:
"With their focus on the physical, physical magicians start out with no
access to astral space. They may purchase and use the Astral Perception
power normally, but can never use Astral Projection. Physical magicians can
only use Metamagic if they have purchased the Astral Perception power,
otherwise they may only use masking to hide their auras and no other
metamagical abilities."


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Message no. 13
From: Jonas Gabrielson <m94jga@*******.TDB.UU.SE>
Subject: NAGM
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 17:06:19 +0200
Where do all you guys get the NAGM? Is it out in the States
already? And the CSH, is that out too? (Yes, I know I'm living in a
secluded, close-to-third-world-status-country :-) )

-Jonas
Message no. 14
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 12:13:37 +0200
> Where do all you guys get the NAGM? Is it out in the States
>already? And the CSH, is that out too? (Yes, I know I'm living in a
>secluded, close-to-third-world-status-country :-) )

NAGM: not out yet, playtest versions are circling around the net.
CSH: I got my copy from my usual address in the UK, so it's out in Europe too.


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Message no. 15
From: Damion Milliken <adm82@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 00:52:42 +1000
Jonas Gabrielson writes:

> Where do all you guys get the NAGM? Is it out in the States
> already? And the CSH, is that out too? (Yes, I know I'm living in a
> secluded, close-to-third-world-status-country :-) )

The CSH is out in the real world on the shelves of book and game stores
around the planet (well, I think it is, my local joint has yet to get it, but
that's no surprise, it's a comic shop really, not a gaming store). The NAGA
is currently in the AOL playtest area, but has been smuggled out into the
internet (well, sorta, you get the idea <grin>), so various people on here
have bootlegged copies of it. Due to copyright reasons it can't be posted,
but I'm sure that if you want a copy then one can find it's way to your
mailbox somehow...

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong E-mail: adm82@***.edu.au

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Message no. 16
From: Matt Fullenwider <mattf@***.UNR.EDU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 23:13:10 -0700
On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Damion Milliken wrote:

> but I'm sure that if you want a copy then one can find it's way to your
> mailbox somehow...

Is there anyway one of those could find their way into my mailbox...
Please...

Thanks...
---Matt

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Message no. 17
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 14:56:32 +0200
>Is there anyway one of those could find their way into my mailbox...
>Please...

I will _not_ say "ask someone who you know has it to send you a copy." I
_won't_ :)


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Message no. 18
From: Mercenary X <ken@*****.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 09:34:10 -0700
I have copy of NAGM curtosy of Gurth. E-mail me if ya want it.


"A pretty face and a gun will always get you farther than just a pretty face"
-Bug City
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Message no. 19
From: Jonas Gabrielson <m94jga@*******.TDB.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 16:44:45 +0200
On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Damion Milliken wrote:

> The NAGA is currently in the AOL playtest area, but has been smuggled
> out into the internet (well, sorta, you get the idea <grin>), so various
> people on here have bootlegged copies of it. Due to copyright reasons it
> can't be posted, but I'm sure that if you want a copy then one can find
> it's way to your mailbox somehow... >

Okay, I catched the Copyright paranoia thread from ADMIN, and I
guess it's futile to try to get a copy, now that everybody's been warned.
But it sure would be nice to get a review or synopsis on it, so I could
follow this list until it gets out :) You guys sure do ramble on about
it, citing rules and stuff - it's hard to keep up.

-Jonas
Message no. 20
From: Terry Amburgey <xanth@****.UKY.EDU>
Subject: NAGM
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:58:28 -0400
Jani wrote:

>Take your player for example, a specialisation is combat spells
>means a general socery rating of 4, this means she gets her
>ass kicked in astral combat (only 4 dice), has only 5 combat pool
>dice when casting other spells (there is a nice list of
>disadvantages in the nagm I recomend reading it) and has a generally
>*bad* time when doing anything other than tossing spells.

Nice advice Jani, I'd take it if I had a fragging copy of NAGM. Terry
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Message no. 21
From: Jason Messer <bitter@****.ncn.com>
Subject: NAGM
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 21:48:16 -0800
A while back I remember hearing that a book called the Neo-Anarchist's Guide
to Magic was due out for Christmas of 95. Was that the working title for
Awakenings or has the release date simply been pushed? From what I heard
this book was to detail differences between the worlds magical traditions,
beyond the largely superficial differences laid out for shamans and=
hermetics.
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Message no. 22
From: "Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:22:39 GMT
Jason Messer writes

> A while back I remember hearing that a book called the Neo-Anarchist's Guide
> to Magic was due out for Christmas of 95. Was that the working title for
> Awakenings or has the release date simply been pushed? From what I heard
> this book was to detail differences between the worlds magical traditions,
> beyond the largely superficial differences laid out for shamans and=
> hermetics.
I think this finally ended up in the FAQ!
but NAGM NAGA and Awakenings are all the same thing, FASA just kept
changing the name.
Message no. 23
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: NAGM
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:26:25 +0100
Jason Messer said on 14 Dec 95...

> A while back I remember hearing that a book called the Neo-Anarchist's Guide
> to Magic was due out for Christmas of 95. Was that the working title for
> Awakenings or has the release date simply been pushed?

Awakenings is the definitive title for what we used to know as the Neo-A
Guide to Magic, or the Neo-A Guide to the Awakened (NAGM and NAGA,
respectively).

>
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Very nice, this... What I'm wondering about is why loads of people are
having these troubles with "=A<number>" lately... Even FL's messages do
this sort of thing...

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Message no. 24
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: NAGM?
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:36:14 +0100
TopCat <shadowrn@********.itribe.net> said on 12:01/ 2 May 96...

> >[Awakenings]
> >I like the book, though I don't think it's essential for playing SR in any
> >way.
>
> Yeah, but weren't you one of those with the NAGM? Kinda makes Awakenings a
> little less necessary. ;)

*quickly looks around for FASA reps* Who? Me? Naaah.... Never heard of
the thing. Whatever made you think that? Of course not!

:) :)

I did notice that a lot got changed between the NAGM-that-I-don't-own, and
Awakenings, though. Not just the large number of spells that were added,
but also the main text itself.

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I'm tired of this shit... All this talk about strife...
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