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Message no. 1
From: dherr@********.net (David Herr)
Subject: re: naturalness and all that
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 18:36:31 EST
Here is the problem that I see with magic in the matrix. The matrix
is not "real." Its a common illusion, generated by some high power
computers. Magic coult effect the computers, but only if the magician
has LOS. when a magician is in the matrix, he by defanition does not
have LOS. The only way that I could see for the magician to deck is
through a LCD screen while the mage can see the deck. The mage could
have a spell which would allow him to dake actions just like a decker,
but couldn't get the reaction bonus that a decker recieves. The only
advantage to this would be that the mage wouldn't have any minuses
from beeing a turtle.
The only reason that the above is possible is that the mage can see
and thus manipulate what it is that the deck does. I would also rule
that the mage must have a "matrix theory" skill and that the target
numbers for controlling the decker are just like the target numbers
for casting a spell on a highly proccessesd Item. The advantage is
that the number of succeses for a matrix theory (system rating) test
would be added to the rolls for the spell casting.
I.E. technomage desides that he wants to deck. he rolls out his flat
screen and plugs the deck into the wall outlet and casts a controll
deck spell on the deck. he can then take any action for as long as he
sustains the spell, his target number is deckers target #+4 (8=highly
processed target #, 4= "natural" target #, 8-4=4) he rolls his matrix
theory (4) test and gets 2,2,4,5 two successes. then he takes some
action and must take a spell casting(8) test (decker targ #=4) he
gets 4,4,2,2,2,8. he then adds two ( # of matrix theory successes) to
each # for final result of 6,6,4,4,4,10 or one success.
Message no. 2
From: gilean@****.muscanet.com (Kurt Montgomery)
Subject: re: naturalness and all that
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:12:05 -0600
>In Cybertechnology (All Hail the TechnoMonsters! Register with Mohicans
>Local 167 today!), it is said that Alpha grade cyberware is pretty much
>available in 2056. Also, Bioware is fully available. Betaware is a little
>easier to get and Deltaware is the new big-deal toy. Gammaware is the
>hardest to get, of course *grin*.
Gammaware? What is the bonus/multiplier on that?
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Message no. 3
From: neon@******.backbone.olemiss.edu (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: re: naturalness and all that
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:23:04 -0600
>>Gammaware is the
>>hardest to get, of course *grin*.
>Gammaware? What is the bonus/multiplier on that?

It's kind of an inside joke for anyone who was at the Shadowrunning 101
lecture at GenCon '95(or who has wondered why they skipped a letter). The
question of "Why did they skip to delta for the next grade of cyberware" was
asked, and Tom Dowd said "I thought delta was the next letter in the greek
alphabet. Oh, ok. Well, gamma grade cyberware didn't do well. The
Marketing guys didn't like it." Gamma grade never existed because of a mix
up with the letters. Alpha, beta, gamma, delta...

Mike Broadwater
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
"You only need two things in this world. WD40 to make things go, and
duct tape to make them stop."
Message no. 4
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: re: naturalness and all that
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:42:20 +0100
Kurt Montgomery said on 21 Feb 96...

> >In Cybertechnology (All Hail the TechnoMonsters! Register with Mohicans
> >Local 167 today!), it is said that Alpha grade cyberware is pretty much
> >available in 2056. Also, Bioware is fully available. Betaware is a little
> >easier to get and Deltaware is the new big-deal toy. Gammaware is the
> >hardest to get, of course *grin*.
> Gammaware? What is the bonus/multiplier on that?

Gammaware is the grade that was left out between beta and delta,
alledgedly because the DLoH screwed up his Greek alphabet :)

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Message no. 5
From: tsbtal@********.com (Tal Kedem)
Subject: re: naturalness and all that
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:06:01 -0500
On Feb 21, 1996 16:12:05, 'gilean@****.muscanet.com (Kurt Montgomery)'
wrote:


>>In Cybertechnology (All Hail the TechnoMonsters! Register with Mohicans
>>Local 167 today!), it is said that Alpha grade cyberware is pretty much
>>available in 2056. Also, Bioware is fully available. Betaware is a
little
>>easier to get and Deltaware is the new big-deal toy. Gammaware is the
>>hardest to get, of course *grin*.

>Gammaware? What is the bonus/multiplier on that?

It's hardest to get cause it ain't out. But is it "not out" as in alpha
testing, "not out" as in not existing, or "not out" as in no-one wants
you
to know about it??? :)
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