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Message no. 1
From: Scott Spencer <java@**********.COM>
Subject: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 23:26:34 -0400
Hoi,

One of my players found an interesting note in the Neo Anarchists Guide to
Real life. In Laura's Decker comment on page 37. "Vashon Island also
offers a full range of synthleather fashion gloves with a little something
extra set into the knucklesand along the edge of the hand: a special
forulation of thin macroplast with the density of lead...Basically it turns
the gloves into a set of Knuckledusters....They are vastly overpriced at
350Y a pair..."
My question is one, has anyone seen anything further on these gloves or
have some sort of stats on them or something like them. My ruling is they
allow Str +2 M damage. Comments are welcome. This brings me to my next
question, how seriously do people take the decker comments on a particular
piece of gear?

Thanks
Java
Message no. 2
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:47:51 -0700
Scott Spencer wrote:

> One of my players found an interesting note in the Neo Anarchists Guide to
Real life. <knip> Basically it turns the gloves into a set of
Knuckledusters....They are vastly overpriced at 350Y a pair..."
> My question is one, has anyone seen anything further on these gloves or have
some sort of stats on them or something like them. My ruling is they allow Str +2 M
damage. Comments are welcome.

Shadowgear (from the Plastic Warriors site) gives em a happy (Str+1)M
Stun.

> This brings me to my next question, how seriously do people take the decker comments
on a particular piece of gear?

Not very. (grin)

> Thanks
> Java
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:54:10 +0100
Scott Spencer said on 23:26/27 May 97...

> One of my players found an interesting note in the Neo Anarchists Guide to
> Real life. In Laura's Decker comment on page 37. "Vashon Island also
> offers a full range of synthleather fashion gloves with a little something
> extra set into the knucklesand along the edge of the hand: a special
> forulation of thin macroplast with the density of lead...Basically it turns
> the gloves into a set of Knuckledusters....They are vastly overpriced at
> 350Y a pair..."
> My question is one, has anyone seen anything further on these gloves or
> have some sort of stats on them or something like them. My ruling is they
> allow Str +2 M damage.

In my game, knuckle dusters do (str+1)M Stun damage; unfortunately this is
just as powerful as a club...

> Comments are welcome.

You shouldn't post if they're not ;)

> This brings me to my next question, how seriously do people take the
> decker comments on a particular piece of gear?

Not all that much, since many are difficult to put into game terms, and so
can be hard to use if someone takes that piece of gear for his or her
character.

--
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And everytime it rains...
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
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Message no. 4
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:03:14 -0700
| In my game, knuckle dusters do (str+1)M Stun damage; unfortunately this
is
| just as powerful as a club...

Well not exactly Gurth...you still get the +1 reach with the club.

Hope that makes you feel better. :-)


-Caric

"I was NAKED!!!!!!!!!!!"
-Blackjack our Racoon Shaman when asked why he ran away from one
particular fight."
Message no. 5
From: Tuvyah@***.COM
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:37:28 -0400
Java wrote:

>how seriously do people take the decker comments on a particular piece of
gear?

I see them as suggestions for house-rule and new item improvisations, that's
all.

Smilin' Ted
"...who knows why he's smilin'."
Message no. 6
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:05:33 -0700
> My question is one, has anyone seen anything further on these gloves or
>have some sort of stats on them or something like them. My ruling is they
>allow Str +2 M damage.

Well....According to an old Ka*Ge Implast weapons add +2 to their
power rating....
Cost: Normal Weapon Cost
Gloves: 1000 -Y- A bit more than the ones in NAGRL
Availability: 4/48
Street Index: 1

>Comments are welcome. This brings me to my next
>question, how seriously do people take the decker comments on a particular
>piece of gear?

Basically as seriously as you want to...Personally..I try and use
them as a portion of the discription..sort of like testimonials..I
figure thst FASA wouldn't waste the space and spend the money putting
them there if it is supposed to be all white noise...
--------------------------------GRANITE "Rock Steady"
===============================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 10:51:05 +0100
Caric said on 11:03/28 May 97...

> | In my game, knuckle dusters do (str+1)M Stun damage; unfortunately this is
> | just as powerful as a club...
>
> Well not exactly Gurth...you still get the +1 reach with the club.
>
> Hope that makes you feel better. :-)

Okay, that's the one advantage a club has, but IMO being hit by a club can
do more damage than being hit by a knucle duster (though I've never been
hit by either, and don't intend to be :)

Before anyone else says it, with the +1 Reach you _can_ do more damage
because you can get successes more easily -- but your maximum possible
damage is still the same as for a knuckle duster, assuming you roll an
equal number of dice with either.

--
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Wat u bent, dat is niets anders dan de herinnering aan uzelf.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 8
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Neo-A Guide to Real Life Question
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:43:34 -0700
Gurth spouted:

| > Well not exactly Gurth...you still get the +1 reach with the club.
| >
| > Hope that makes you feel better. :-)

I guess it didn't. =)

| Okay, that's the one advantage a club has, but IMO being hit by a club
can
| do more damage than being hit by a knucle duster (though I've never been
| hit by either, and don't intend to be :)

I personally subscribe to that philosophy also and find works very well.
;)

| Before anyone else says it, with the +1 Reach you _can_ do more damage
| because you can get successes more easily -- but your maximum possible
| damage is still the same as for a knuckle duster, assuming you roll an
| equal number of dice with either.

I actually agree with you here...I see the club as the sword of the stun
damage world. I would give it a str+2, but then that makes it the same as
a staff (I think), but a club and a staff would be about the same damage
wise you just get the reach bonus with a staff. Ahhh well who knows.


-Caric

"I was NAKED!!!!!!!!!!!"
-Blackjack our Racoon Shaman when asked why he ran away from one
particular fight."

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