Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Amper <amper@****.DATANET.HU>
Subject: New member
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:50:25 +0100
Hail!

I'm Andrew Timar-Geng from Hungary. I play whit a rigger, his name is
Amper.
And 1 have a question: how high can a LAV fly?

PS: Sorry, if my english letters isn't perfect. Please correct me, if I
made a bug.
--
,--\/----\/----\/----\/----\/-,
l / l
l AmpeR by Hungary /_ l
l Programmer & RPG player / l
l amper@****.datanet.hu / l
l \/ l
l_/\/\__/\/\__/\/\__/\/\__/\/\l
Message no. 2
From: "Fisher, Victor" <Victor-Fisher@******.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:52:53 -0500
>Andrew Timar-Geng said:
>
>Hail!
>
>I'm Andrew Timar-Geng from Hungary. I play whit a rigger, his name is
>Amper.
>And 1 have a question: how high can a LAV fly?
>
>PS: Sorry, if my english letters isn't perfect. Please correct me, if I
>made a bug.

Hey, Andrew. Don't worry about your english. I'm from the U.S., and
we barely speak it here:-]
In answer to your rigger question, I can't give you exact numbers,
but I'll give it a try.
An LAV, in layman's terms, is a very large, aerodynamic, brick. It
takes a lot of thrust to propel this brick over the ground. That's
flying what they call 'nape of the earth'.
If you wanted to gain some altitude, you could, but the energy
expenditure needed to generate the necessary thrust would be enormous
[and expensive]. It could hover like a Harrier jet, so I'd guess it
would use the same amount of fuel [note: Harrier's don't spend to much
time in hover mode, usually only when taking off and landing].
I think in the first Shadowrun book written by Charette, the
rigger's LAV was able to get at least 50 feet off the ground during a
running battle. The engines in LAV's are designed and built by the same
people as those who design and build the ones for jet air craft [One of
the best being the Rolls Royce Pegasus]
Sorry, if I was kinda obscure, and hoped that cleared things up a
little. Maybe someone else can add a few vital statistics to the thing.


Kohl
Message no. 3
From: Midn Daniel O Fredrikson <m992148@****.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:27:39 -0500
> An LAV, in layman's terms, is a very large, aerodynamic, brick. It
> takes a lot of thrust to propel this brick over the ground. That's
> flying what they call 'nape of the earth'.

I agree...one thing to consider is that they may have figured someway to
use ground-effect type lifting body. That way, when the LAV was at
cruising speed relatively close to the ground, its efficiency would be
higher.

> If you wanted to gain some altitude, you could, but the energy
> expenditure needed to generate the necessary thrust would be enormous
> [and expensive]. It could hover like a Harrier jet, so I'd guess it
> would use the same amount of fuel [note: Harrier's don't spend to much
> time in hover mode, usually only when taking off and landing].

Harriers even prefer to have a short take off, preferable with a ski-jump
like hump at the end of the runway. It allows them to carry alot more
weapons.

> I think in the first Shadowrun book written by Charette, the
> rigger's LAV was able to get at least 50 feet off the ground during a
> running battle. The engines in LAV's are designed and built by the same
> people as those who design and build the ones for jet air craft [One of

IMHO, a LAV would generally stay low for efficiency reason (and detection)
and only go high when it needed to...kind of like afterburners on jet
fighters. You only use it when you need it.
Message no. 4
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:43:46 EST
On Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:50:25 +0100 Amper <amper@****.datanet.hu> writes:
>Hail!
>
>I'm Andrew Timar-Geng from Hungary. I play whit a rigger, his name is
>Amper.
>And 1 have a question: how high can a LAV fly?
>

Welcome (this is your second post, but I don't think anyone said it the
first time:). The Bull-bot shall greet you shortly:)

I don't know how high the LAV (are we talking t-birds, like the Banshee,
or the Federated-Boeing Eagle?)



>PS: Sorry, if my english letters isn't perfect. Please correct me, if
>I
>made a bug.

Actually, your English isn't too bad at all. It's certainly better than
some people I know (US public schools suck):

--
-Canthros
If any man wishes peace, canthros1@***.com
let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
--Roman proverb
http://members.aol.com/canthros1/
Message no. 5
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:08:35 EST
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:30:03 -0500 Midn Daniel O Fredrikson writes:
>
>Sorry, I really have got to disagree with you there... As I see it, a
LAV is basically a flying
> tank. If it is flying up to several thousand feet, depending on only
its thrust, either its fuel
> efficiency is going to
>be almost nill, aeronautual science has increased to a point where
>no-winged vehicles have good lift properties, or the LAV is powered by
>some insane power source, like a fusion bottle (I read about
fusion-powered hover tanks in
> some novel).

"Hammer's Slammer's" by chance? The series by David Drake? A definite
good action read in my book (no pun intended... really). Also has some
good stuff on heavy ground-effect vehicles.

>I think it will fly relatively low to keep ground effect-type lift
maximized. It is even
> possible,IMHO, that LAVs have retractable wheels, so they can travel
very slowly to
>minimized thermal and sonic emitions.

It's just angled thrust... the lower you are to the ground, the less it
needs to be directed toward keeping you aloft and the more you have to
direct backwards for speed. The higher you are, the more thrust needs to
be dedicated to maintining the altitude of the "flying brick".

I recall one such LAV in the RBB that was designed that way (with
wheels). It could "go to ground" to cut it's signature and consurve
fuel, then fire up the jets for faster movement and versatility.

>
>> Safe operational height and speed would probably be governed by the
>> vehicles' payload. But I would suggest a minimum of 50m, it allows a
>> marginal area for error.

[snip the good discussion about terrain, height and speed]

I think it would also depend greatly on how much power you have
available.

~Tim
Message no. 6
From: MC23 <mc23@****.NET>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:54:13 -0500
Amper wrote,
>Hail!
<snip>

Greetings and salutations.
I hope you like mail.

hmmmmm... the Bull-welcome-bot seems to have crashed. We need to get it
up and ruuning again.

- MC23, who is wondering why He is covering for Bull -
Message no. 7
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:30:26 +0000
In article <19970330.020502.4863.1.z-i-m@****.com>, Tim P Cooper <z-i-
m@****.COM> writes

>I recall one such LAV in the RBB that was designed that way (with
>wheels). It could "go to ground" to cut it's signature and consurve
>fuel, then fire up the jets for faster movement and versatility.

The LAV from RBB that I think you are thinking of, is the Banshee. The
book states however, that the wheels are "unpowered" control wheels for
more stable manoeuvering. This means that the Banshee still needs to
maintain it's thrust to keep moving, otherwise it just sits there on the
wheels playing target <g> So, unfortunately, no reduction in signature
or fuel conservation.


--
Avenger
Message no. 8
From: Midn Daniel O Fredrikson <m992148@****.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:24:04 -0500
>
> >I recall one such LAV in the RBB that was designed that way (with
> >wheels). It could "go to ground" to cut it's signature and consurve
> >fuel, then fire up the jets for faster movement and versatility.
>
> The LAV from RBB that I think you are thinking of, is the Banshee. The
> book states however, that the wheels are "unpowered" control wheels for
> more stable manoeuvering. This means that the Banshee still needs to
> maintain it's thrust to keep moving, otherwise it just sits there on the
> wheels playing target <g> So, unfortunately, no reduction in signature
> or fuel conservation.
>
I stand corrected. Man, I sure wish I could find the RBB before I get in
arguments like this... :)
Message no. 9
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:52:10 -0500
At 08:54 AM 3/21/97 -0500, MC23 wrote these timeless words:
>Amper wrote,
>>Hail!
><snip>
>
>Greetings and salutations.
>I hope you like mail.
>
>hmmmmm... the Bull-welcome-bot seems to have crashed. We need to get it
>up and ruuning again.
>
[THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU BY SASCHA PABST, WHO IS SECRETLY THE PUPPET
MASTER BEHIND THE BULL BOT AND IT'S RANDOM OFF TOPIC BABBLING.]

The Bull Bot has, indeed crashed recently to the real Bull "Getting a
Life", which includes a new job, and being inundated with mail, so that
occasionally, messages like "Hi I'm new" get missed.

The Bull Bot sends his apologies and will endeacor to do better, but will
be offline for the next two day.

The Bull Bot :]
Message no. 10
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:09:53 +0000
In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970321172317.18018C-100000@*****>, Midn Daniel
O Fredrikson <m992148@****.NAVY.MIL> writes

>> The LAV from RBB that I think you are thinking of, is the Banshee. The
>> book states however, that the wheels are "unpowered" control wheels for
>> more stable manoeuvering. This means that the Banshee still needs to
>> maintain it's thrust to keep moving, otherwise it just sits there on the
>> wheels playing target <g> So, unfortunately, no reduction in signature
>> or fuel conservation.
>>
>I stand corrected. Man, I sure wish I could find the RBB before I get in
>arguments like this... :)


Hey, don't worry about it. :) I have a nasty habit of setting my
fingers off before my brain is in gear too. <g>

Also, where I steal ideas from so many other games, I occassionaly (as
people here know) get a tad confused as to which item is from which
game. Don't worry about it, it happens to all of us sooner or later :)

(Me more often than others)...

--
Avenger
Message no. 11
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:42:19 -0500
At 10:50 PM 3/20/97 +0100, Amper wrote these timeless words:
>Hail!
>
>I'm Andrew Timar-Geng from Hungary. I play whit a rigger, his name is
>Amper.
>And 1 have a question: how high can a LAV fly?
>
Hello! Hi there...! Welcome to the Shadowrn Discussion list... Glad to
have you aboard!

Hope ya like mail!

<there, that's my offical duty:) Happy Skye? :}>

>PS: Sorry, if my english letters isn't perfect. Please correct me, if I
>made a bug.
>
Looks good to me... But then, I'm an English major and STILL can't type or
spell....:]

Bull-the-Welcome-Bot
--
Now the Offical Shadowrn mailing List Welcome Ork!
Fearless Leader of the Star Wars Mailing List

=======================================================
= Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich =
= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
=======================================================

"You know, I think I had a dream that I'd go out like
this, only I was wearing a dress."
-Mighty max
Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:35:10 +0100
Bull said on 22:52/21 Mar 97...

> The Bull Bot sends his apologies and will endeacor to do better, but will
> be offline for the next two day.

Better the Bull Bot than the whole list :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Lack of inspiration has prevented a witty quote from being placed here.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version 3.1:
GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+ PE
Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Message no. 13
From: MC23 <mc23@****.NET>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:41:04 -0500
The Bull-Bot wrote,
>Hello! Hi there...! Welcome to the Shadowrn Discussion list... Glad to
>have you aboard!
>
>Hope ya like mail!
>
<snip>

I glad to see the Bull-Bot up and working again. I don't do that
freindly stuff well. B;>]# It was fun to do once though.


<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Ancient cultures believed that names held great power, personal names
more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
I am MC23
Message no. 14
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:45:23 +0000
In article <199703221033.LAA18729@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.NL> writes
>Bull said on 22:52/21 Mar 97...
>
>> The Bull Bot sends his apologies and will endeacor to do better, but will
>> be offline for the next two day.
>
>Better the Bull Bot than the whole list :)
>

Seems to be the first weekend for a while that Mark has forgotten to
turn off the server on his way out of work... Hmmm.. maybe I shouldn't
say that, it may be tempting fate. :)


--
Avenger
Message no. 15
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:03:51 EST
On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:45:07 +0000 Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
writes:
<snip>
>>I predicted the return of the Old Ones (Hayden, Doom, Rat, and JD).
>>
>>A few days later, Stainless Steel Rat showed up again...
>

Yep. It was rather eerie:)



>Ah, I'm beginning to understand. Well, we have 14 years until the end
>of the world. December 11, 2012. According to the Mayans anyway. :)

Woohoo! Fourteen more years!




>
>Which means that JD, and the the rest have plenty of time to return
>before it's too late. Unless Microsoft really do crash the
>internet/matrix in between now and then <grin>

Naah...they don't do that 'til 2029:)



>
>--
>Avenger
>

--
-Canthros
If any man wishes peace, canthros1@***.com
let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
--Roman proverb
http://members.aol.com/canthros1/
Message no. 16
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:26:46 EST
On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:35:10 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>A few years ago there were some scientists who thought they'd done cold
>fusion, but nobody could reproduce their experiments.

Tell that to my last-quarters physics prof. He's part of a research
team at my university that's been able to reproduce the results...

~Tim
Message no. 17
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:48:02 +1000
> On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:35:10 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
> >A few years ago there were some scientists who thought they'd done cold
> >fusion, but nobody could reproduce their experiments.
>
> Tell that to my last-quarters physics prof. He's part of a research
> team at my university that's been able to reproduce the results...

Why hasn't that hit the news big time?

Ray
Message no. 18
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 05:33:48 -0800
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:50:25 +0100
>From: Amper
>Subject: New member

>Hail!

Hullo! <g>

>
>I'm Andrew Timar-Geng from Hungary. I play whit a
rigger, his name is
>Amper.

Welcome to Shadowrn!

>And 1 have a question: how high can a LAV fly?

Not very. :) They're low flying craft that can take
short hops in altitude on occasion.

>
>PS: Sorry, if my english letters isn't perfect.
Please correct me, if I
>made a bug.

Null sweat. None of us native speakers can use
English worth a damn either. :)



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

---------------------------------------------------------
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 19
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:47:13 EST
On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:18:04 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:

>So it finally did come out right? Does that mean we'll be seeing fusion
>plants everywhere Real Soon Now? :)
>
>

Yeah, you can go out and order a "Backyard Fusion Bottle" from Popular
Science for only $19.95, (fuel not included)... Guaranteed fun, and
electricity, for the whole neighborhood. :-)

~Tim (not being even remotely serious)
Message no. 20
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:47:13 EST
On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:48:02 +1000 Ray & Tamara writes:
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:35:10 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>> >A few years ago there were some scientists who thought they'd done
cold
>> >fusion, but nobody could reproduce their experiments.

>> Tell that to my last-quarters physics prof. He's part of a research
>> team at my university that's been able to reproduce the results...
>
>Why hasn't that hit the news big time?

I dunno...I think they were still going through a few more tests so that
there would be enough examples of results to publish or something...
(I'll have to ask him about it again next quarter).

~Tim
Message no. 21
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 03:19:52 +0000
On 21 Mar 97 at 22:52, Bull wrote:
[snip Bull-bot crashed]
> [THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU BY SASCHA PABST, WHO IS SECRETLY THE PUPPET
> MASTER BEHIND THE BULL BOT AND IT'S RANDOM OFF TOPIC BABBLING.]
[snip]
Hey! Keep me outta there! I never did anything with, to, or about that
bot! Really, I promise! And the "man bull_bot" didn't tell me to have a
-v parameter to suppress names... damn!

Sascha
--
+---___---------+------------------------------------+------------------------+
| / / _______ | Jhary-a-Conel aka Sascha Pabst |I don't believe in love,|
| / /_/ ____/ |Sascha.Pabst@ |I never have, / I never |
| \___ __/ | Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.de |will, / I don't believe |
|==== \_/ ======|*Wearing hats is just a way of life*| in love / it's never |
|LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me |worth the pain you feel |
+------------- http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~jhary -----Queensryche-+
Message no. 22
From: Avenger <avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: New member)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:19:33 -0000
----------
> From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Tim burbled happily on 24 March 1997 17:47
>
> On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:18:04 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>
> >So it finally did come out right? Does that mean we'll be seeing fusion
> >plants everywhere Real Soon Now? :)
>
> Yeah, you can go out and order a "Backyard Fusion Bottle" from Popular
> Science for only $19.95, (fuel not included)... Guaranteed fun, and
> electricity, for the whole neighborhood. :-)
>

Whaddya mean $19.95????

I'm gonna get mugged by my players again, they were told a _much_ highre
price. :)



--
__ \ | \ __
| | _` | __| | / _ \ \ / _ \ __ \ _` | _ \ __|
| | ( | | < ___ \ \ / __/ | | ( | __/ |
____/ \__,_|_| _|\_\ _/ _\ \_/ \___|_| _|\__, |\___|_|
A Dark Shadow in a Dark World |___/
Message no. 23
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New member)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:24:18 +0100
Avenger said on 2:19/25 Mar 97...

> Whaddya mean $19.95????
>
> I'm gonna get mugged by my players again, they were told a _much_ highre
> price. :)

That's so you can sell them on to them, "for cheap" :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
All new and improved! Or maybe not...
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version 3.1:
GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+ PE
Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Message no. 24
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:14:23 -0800
>Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:24:04 -0500
>From: Midn Daniel O Fredrikson
>Subject: Re: New member
>To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET

>>
>> >I recall one such LAV in the RBB that was
designed that way (with
>> >wheels). It could "go to ground" to cut it's
signature and consurve
>> >fuel, then fire up the jets for faster movement
and versatility.
>>
>> The LAV from RBB that I think you are thinking of,
is the Banshee. The
>> book states however, that the wheels are
"unpowered" control wheels for
>> more stable manoeuvering. This means that the
Banshee still needs to
>> maintain it's thrust to keep moving, otherwise it
just sits there on the
>> wheels playing target So, unfortunately, no
reduction in signature
>> or fuel conservation.
>>
>I stand corrected. Man, I sure wish I could find
the RBB before I get in
>arguments like this... :)

Unless you were refering to the Red Ranger Scout ACV;
an air cushioned vehicle with a top speed of 450 and
Sig of 3 that could use powered wheels instead to
give it a max speed of 90, but a Sig of 8 and four
times the mileage.

Shawn
Love them security vehicles!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

---------------------------------------------------------
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 25
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: New member)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:49:47 +0000
In article <199703250922.KAA16716@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.NL> writes
>Avenger said on 2:19/25 Mar 97...
>
>> Whaddya mean $19.95????
>>
>> I'm gonna get mugged by my players again, they were told a _much_ highre
>> price. :)
>
>That's so you can sell them on to them, "for cheap" :)

They get _real_ nervous over "cheap" goods. One of them bought a
Panther Assault Cannon, and an HMG cheap, with a few ammo boxes thrown
in for good measure. Not my fault he accepted what the military were
going to trash. :)

So they don't buy "sale" anymore <grin> But I gave them a price of
780,000 nuyen for a fusion pack for matey's ACPA, if any of them see
this 19.95 price, I'm a dead GM. ;)


--
__ \ | \ __
| | _` | __| | / _ \ \ / _ \ __ \ _` | _ \ __|
| | ( | | < ___ \ \ / __/ | | ( | __/ |
____/ \__,_|_| _|\_\ _/ _\ \_/ \___|_| _|\__, |\___|_|
A Dark Shadow in a Dark World |___/
Message no. 26
From: Shaun Sides <arch@****.ABTS.NET>
Subject: New member
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 16:16:20 -0500
Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.

I'm new to the list, but have been playing and thoroughly enjoying
SR, well, almost since it was originally published. :)

My handle/nick is from my favorite SR character, in fact.

Looking forward to lots of good info from this and the other
SR-realated lists.

a chaoidh teabadaich,

Shaun Sides
arch@****.net
http://www.abts.net/~arch

No I don't mind if you smoke, in fact after I've shot you 8 or 9
times I'd expect you to smoke quite a bit.
-- Smilin' Jack to a woman sharing an elevator car
Message no. 27
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:38:51 +0100
|
|Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.

+++++ INSTALL BULL-Welcome-bot. V2.0
Unable to comply. BULL enhanced off-topic-post initiator missing.
Re-install V1.565 for full functionality....

+++++ RE-INSTALL BULL-Welcome-bot. V1.565
Installing BULL-wb. V1.565
LOADING BULL vocabulary....
LOADING BULL off-topic-post initiator
LOADING BULL welcome engine

INSTALLATION COMPLETE!
The BULL welcome bot will greet you shortly....

(Don't worry, it's a bit of an IN joke... You get it before long....)

:)
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 28
From: Amper <amper@****.DATANET.HU>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:50:10 +0100
>
> Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.
>
> I'm new to the list, but have been playing and thoroughly enjoying
> SR, well, almost since it was originally published. :)
>
> My handle/nick is from my favorite SR character, in fact.

Hi and Welcome.
I'm not an old member, but my opinion, this is a very-very good list. I
hope, you will be of the same mind as me.
--
,--\/----\/----\/----\/----\/-,
l / l
l AmpeR by Hungary /_ l
l Programmer & RPG player / l
l amper@****.datanet.hu / l
l \/ l
l_/\/\__/\/\__/\/\__/\/\__/\/\l
Message no. 29
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:20:53 +1000
> |Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.
>
> +++++ INSTALL BULL-Welcome-bot. V2.0
> Unable to comply. BULL enhanced off-topic-post initiator missing.
> Re-install V1.565 for full functionality....
>
> +++++ RE-INSTALL BULL-Welcome-bot. V1.565
> Installing BULL-wb. V1.565
> LOADING BULL vocabulary....
> LOADING BULL off-topic-post initiator
> LOADING BULL welcome engine
>
> INSTALLATION COMPLETE!
> The BULL welcome bot will greet you shortly....
>

ROTFLMAO!!!!

BULL enhanced off-topic post initiator, indeed.
Message no. 30
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:16:15 -0500
At 04:16 PM 3/30/97 -0500, Shaun Sides wrote these timeless words:
>Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.
>
Hi!

>I'm new to the list, but have been playing and thoroughly enjoying
>SR, well, almost since it was originally published. :)
>
Oh... Goody!!! A newbie...!!!! :]:]:]

<Bull clears his throat>

Ahem...

Welcome to the list!!!! It's a fun place to be, and lots of great
chatting, and sometimes, it's even about Shadowrun!

Hope ya like mail!

:]

>My handle/nick is from my favorite SR character, in fact.
>
Mine too...:]

>Looking forward to lots of good info from this and the other
>SR-realated lists.
>
<grin>

Well... You'll get lots, and it's sometimes good, but only rarely can it
truly be called information...:):):):)

Watch out for the Off Topic Header ([OT]), you'll see it plenty around
here...:)

>a chaoidh teabadaich,
>
Huh?

This has been a semi-automated message generated by the Bull-Bot, the
official Shadowrn Mailing List Welcome Ork! :]

Bull-the-welcome-Ork-Decker
--
Now the Offical Shadowrn mailing List Welcome Ork!
Fearless Leader of the Star Wars Mailing List

=======================================================
= Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich =
= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
=======================================================

"You know, I think I had a dream that I'd go out like
this, only I was wearing a dress."
-Mighty max
Message no. 31
From: Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 21:38:59 -0800
Bull wrote:

> >I'm new to the list, but have been playing and thoroughly enjoying
[snip Bull-bot's welcome]

> >a chaoidh teabadaich,
> >
> Huh?

I'd say it means 'To be talking (to you)'. (That or 'Will be taunting
(you)')

> This has been a semi-automated message generated by the Bull-Bot, the
> official Shadowrn Mailing List Welcome Ork! :]

Good going Spike, it looks like that spelling virus is gone, or at least
moved to another host...

--

Dvixen Code-word : Weevil-chuck. dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
I have no sense of decency. That way, all my other senses are enhanced
Message no. 32
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:28:41 -0800
>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 16:16:20 -0500
>From: Shaun Sides

>Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.

Welcome! Does your mailer have a maximum? :)

>I'm new to the list, but have been playing and
thoroughly enjoying
>SR, well, almost since it was originally published.
:)
>

Most of us have been as well, so you're in good
company.

>My handle/nick is from my favorite SR character, in
>fact.

Mines from some video store clerk in Florida who said
I could use it, but only if I changed the
pronunciation so nobody would recognize him. :)

>Looking forward to lots of good info from this and
the other
>SR-realated lists.
>

Hmm... must be a new feature not yet implemented. I
gues the OT posts'll make up for it. :)

>a chaoidh teabadaich,
>
Uh... Bless you?

Shawn
Witty sig donated to Children of Irate Farm Animals
and the Mountainmen Who Love Them.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

---------------------------------------------------------
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 33
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:46:06 +0100
Spike said on 22:38/30 Mar 97...

> +++++ RE-INSTALL BULL-Welcome-bot. V1.565
> Installing BULL-wb. V1.565
> LOADING BULL vocabulary....
> LOADING BULL off-topic-post initiator

That step took way too short... Are you sure it's installed completely?

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Gurth writes history.
"History."
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version 3.1:
GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+ PE
Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Message no. 34
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:07:01 +0100
|Good going Spike, it looks like that spelling virus is gone, or at least
|moved to another host...

I thought it was time for a re-installation...
Shame V2.0 isn't working....
(That enhanced off-topic post initiator looked like fun.....)

:)
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 35
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:16:34 +0100
|
|Spike said on 22:38/30 Mar 97...
|
|> +++++ RE-INSTALL BULL-Welcome-bot. V1.565
|> Installing BULL-wb. V1.565
|> LOADING BULL vocabulary....
|> LOADING BULL off-topic-post initiator
|
|That step took way too short... Are you sure it's installed completely?

That was just the final screen-shot...
The actual installation took about an hour....

:)
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 36
From: Scott Taylor Spencer <sts100z@****.ODU.EDU>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:38:14 -0500
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, MARTIN E. GOTTHARD wrote:

> > |Just wanted to drop a note to the list and say hi.
> >

Greetings and Salutations

Scott


"The sights on this gun must be off all I keep hitting are coffee
mugs." -John Cleese
Message no. 37
From: Shaun Sides <arch@****.ABTS.NET>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:51:47 -0500
Date: 30 Mar 97 Time: 21:38
Subject: Re: New member

TO: Dvixen

> > >a chaoidh teabadaich,
> > >
> > Huh?
>
> I'd say it means 'To be talking (to you)'. (That or 'Will be
> taunting (you)')

Means "never faltering". :)

a chaoidh teabadaich,

Shaun Sides
arch@****.net
http://www.abts.net/~arch

The ocean is life, there is no life without the ocean.
-- Vols Frietharn, Voyager Bard
Message no. 38
From: Shaun Sides <arch@****.ABTS.NET>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:55:26 -0500
Date: 31 Mar 97 Time: 1:16
Subject: Re: New member

TO: Bull

> Oh... Goody!!! A newbie...!!!! :]:]:]

Heh. Yeah, in a sense, I guess. :)

> <Bull clears his throat>
>
> Ahem...
>
> Welcome to the list!!!! It's a fun place to be, and lots of great
> chatting, and sometimes, it's even about Shadowrun!
>
> Hope ya like mail!

I do, as a rule. When I get time to read it. :)

> >My handle/nick is from my favorite SR character, in fact.
> >
> Mine too...:]

Cool.

> Well... You'll get lots, and it's sometimes good, but only rarely
> can it truly be called information...:):):):)

Some's good, others, skipped. :)

Been spending the extra time trying to become an accomplished mIRC
scripter these past few days. :)

> Watch out for the Off Topic Header ([OT]), you'll see it plenty
> around here...:)

What's it indicate?

> >a chaoidh teabadaich,
> >
> Huh?

a chaoidh teabadaich,

Shaun Sides
arch@****.net
http://www.abts.net/~arch

No I don't mind if you smoke, in fact after I've shot you 8 or 9
times I'd expect you to smoke quite a bit.
-- Smilin' Jack to a woman sharing an elevator car
Message no. 39
From: Shaun Sides <arch@****.ABTS.NET>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:05:19 -0500
Date: 31 Mar 97 Time: 1:28
Subject: Re: New member

TO: Shawn Baumgartner

> Welcome! Does your mailer have a maximum? :)

Not so's I've found out yet. :) Just eats lotsa system ticks.

> Witty sig donated to Children of Irate Farm Animals
> and the Mountainmen Who Love Them.

ROFL!

a chaoidh teabadaich,

Shaun Sides
arch@****.net
http://www.abts.net/~arch

Doc, I'll get all the sleep I need when I'm dead.
-- Wade Garrett, from Roadhouse
Message no. 40
From: Zarcon <prinzing@********.COM>
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:29:08 -0600
Shaun Sides wrote:

> a chaoidh teabadaich,

What the hell does that mean?

Zarcon
Message no. 41
From: Zarcon zarcon@*****.com
Subject: new member
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:13:13 -0500
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BE9D42.5B6683C0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

well i just joind so just thought id say hi and all that good stuff.
(sorry bout my spelling failed english to many times)

Zarcon the 6th
(aka Levi Prinzing)

------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BE9D42.5B6683C0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"
http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=2>well i just joind so just thought id say hi and all
that good
stuff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(sorry bout my spelling failed english to many
times)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Zarcon the 6th<BR>(aka Levi
Prinzing)</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BE9D42.5B6683C0--
Message no. 42
From: Rori Steel cullyn@*****.com.au
Subject: new member
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 06:41:47 +0000 (GMT)
On Thu, 13 May 1999 13:13:13 -0500, you wrote:

>well i just joind so just thought id say hi and all that good stuff.
>(sorry bout my spelling failed english to many times)
>
>Zarcon the 6th
>(aka Levi Prinzing)

Ok.. who is going to tell him to kick the HTML!!!!
*hint* *hint*

Text only :>

Cullyn
Message no. 43
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: new member
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:38:11 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Rori Steel wrote:

> Ok.. who is going to tell him to kick the HTML!!!!
> *hint* *hint*
>
> Text only :>

We already got to him. Heh.

Marc Renouf (ShadowRN GridSec - "Bad Cop" Division)

Other ShadowRN-related addresses and links:
Mark Imbriaco <mark@*********.html.com> List Owner
Adam Jury <adamj@*********.html.com> Assistant List Administrator
DVixen <dvixen@****.com> Keeper of the FAQs
Gurth <gurth@******.nl> GridSec Enforcer Division
David Buehrer <graht@********.att.net> GridSec "Nice Guy" Division
ShadowRN FAQ <http://shadowrun.html.com/hlair/faqindex.php3>;

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about New member, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.

Thwap!