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Message no. 1
From: Orin Starchaser <moon.29@*******.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:31:01 -0500
Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
Message no. 2
From: Ioannis Pantelidis <jpante@******.COMPULINK.GR>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:37:25 +0300
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:

> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
it is a a nice idea :)
Message no. 3
From: Orin Starchaser <moon.29@*******.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:55:32 -0500
>On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
>
>> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
>> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
>it is a a nice idea :)
Well, #shadowrun is already up and running - it just needs people to join in.
Message no. 4
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:09:47 -0500
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On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:

> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?

Uh, no.



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Message no. 5
From: "S.F. Eley" <gt6877c@*****.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:41:32 -0400
> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?

It's not going to happen on a standard newsgroup.. rec.games.frp.cyber
carries the Shadowrun traffic, and it's not overloaded enough yet to justify
a Shadowrun-specific group, so that's duplication of purpose. You could do
it on an alt.* group, but some of us don't receive them.

There are usually IRC chat channels for Shadowrun discussion, and sometimes
for playing, but you don't ordinarily keep messages from them, so if
someone's not online they miss out. Also, some people can't get to IRC,
and some (like me) are easily annoyed by the average IQ there.

The mailing list is really the best way to handle this sort of
communication. If it's too much traffic, get the digest version, or set
up filters to kill the subject threads that bore you. I sympathize, but
there's little else that can be done.


Blessings,

_TNX._

--
Stephen F. Eley (-) gt6877c@*****.gatech.edu )-( Student Pagan Community
http://wc62.residence.gatech.edu|
My opinions are my opinions. | "Everybody wants to go to heaven,
Please don't blame anyone else. | but nobody wants to die."
Message no. 6
From: Orin Starchaser <moon.29@*******.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:30:40 -0500
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>
>On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
>
>> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
>> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
>
>Uh, no.
WHY?
Message no. 7
From: Ioannis Pantelidis <jpante@******.COMPULINK.GR>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:24:24 +0300
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:

> >On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
> >
> >> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
> >> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
> >it is a a nice idea :)
> Well, #shadowrun is already up and running - it just needs people to join in.
YES BUT IN WHICH SERVER? (if you know one please sent it to us) :)
;) :)
jpante@*********.gr
Message no. 8
From: Andre' Selmer <031SEA@******.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:47:58 +0200
:->On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
:->
:->> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
:->> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
:->
:->Uh, no.
:->
I concure, in this neck of the woods they frown on people who use
IRC sessions and comedown like a heavily cybered troll on you if you
spend more than an hour on the system <grin>

Andre'


Man is a teller of stories, he lives by and is surrounded by his
own stories and those of other people, he sees everythings that
happens to him in terms of these stories and thus has to live
enacting them
-Sarte

GARFIELD !
-Jon
Message no. 9
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@************.ORG>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:36:57 -0400
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:

> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking this
> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?

Assuming your "newsnets" is actually Usenet newsgroups, it
wouldn't work. Except for the occasional dork, the ShadowRN mailing list
has always been a community -- we have insider jokes (most of which are
explained in the FAQ), well-known personalities, etcetera.
While that /sometimes/ happens with newsgroups, there're still
many more strangers passing through who have no idea what's going on --
and are too clueless to bother to look for a FAQ. (The same thing can
happen on mailing lists, except that I send it to every new subscriber.)
Also, of course, there're the spammers, massive crossposts, and
all the other things that people use to make Usenet an awful place.
As for IRC -- as somebody said, there's already a Shadowrun
channel, but people just have to use it. Personally, I wouldn't mind
seeing some of the more drawn-out discussions taken to IRC, and then a
summary of the conclusions posted to the list -- but that won't always
work, especially since there are so many of us.
Now, I'm extremely active on Usenet, and have utilized IRC from
time to time, so I know what the beneifts of each one are -- but when it
comes to ShadowRN's purpose, you simply can't get much better than a
mailing list.

---------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk@************.org> =========---------
| "Our three pillars are fear, surprise, |
| and an insane devotion to usenet." |
| -- Tristan Louis (with apologies to Monty Python) |
----========== http://www.cybernothing.org/jdfalk/home.html ==========----
Message no. 10
From: Orin Starchaser <moon.29@*******.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:52:27 -0500
>On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
>
>> >On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
>> >
>> >> Considering the sheer volume of posts, what is your opinion on taking
this
>> >> to the newsnets or the IRC channels?
>> >it is a a nice idea :)
>> Well, #shadowrun is already up and running - it just needs people to join
>>in.
>YES BUT IN WHICH SERVER? (if you know one please sent it to us) :)
It doesn't matter which server you use, as long as it's connected to the
regular server nets. I don't suggest any of the undernet servers because
of this. If you want everyone one to be on the same server to prevent
splits, then irc.texas.net port 6665 would be a good choice... It's fairly
centrally located. But as I said, AS LONG AS YOU CONNECT TO A SERVER, YOU
WILL GET ON THE CHANNEL.
Message no. 11
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:28:24 -0500
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On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:

> It doesn't matter which server you use, as long as it's connected to the
> regular server nets. I don't suggest any of the undernet servers because
> of this. If you want everyone one to be on the same server to prevent
> splits, then irc.texas.net port 6665 would be a good choice... It's fairly
> centrally located. But as I said, AS LONG AS YOU CONNECT TO A SERVER, YOU
> WILL GET ON THE CHANNEL.

WRONG!

Most of the servers are interconnected. However, due to the amount of
traffic and splitting, several other networks have come online that are
not associated with the main hubs. Undernet is one. Billynet is
another. There are a couple more that are more private.

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Message no. 12
From: Orin Starchaser <moon.29@*******.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 13:43:44 -0500
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>
>On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Orin Starchaser wrote:
>
>> It doesn't matter which server you use, as long as it's connected to the
>> regular server nets. I don't suggest any of the undernet servers because
>> of this. If you want everyone one to be on the same server to prevent
>> splits, then irc.texas.net port 6665 would be a good choice... It's fairly
>> centrally located. But as I said, AS LONG AS YOU CONNECT TO A SERVER, YOU
>> WILL GET ON THE CHANNEL.
>
>WRONG!
>
>Most of the servers are interconnected. However, due to the amount of
>traffic and splitting, several other networks have come online that are
>not associated with the main hubs. Undernet is one. Billynet is
>another. There are a couple more that are more private.
>
Fine. Use the server I mentioned, then. after connecting to a server,
type /join #shadowrun
and you're there. Don't try to scan the channel, as I'm going to make it a
secret channel, which makes it invisible to /who.

-Mata ne,
Orin Starchaser
"Tell me, Doctor. Why did you go into gengineering research?" - Alyn Vage,
Reporter, Network 5 News
"To fulfill a dream mostly."-Dr. Terrance Clark, Genengineer, Genecraft
Biodesigns
"Okay, I'll bite. What dream? A dream for a better, cleaner world? Peace
on Earth? Food and care for the needy?"-Vage
"Nope. Redhead, five-ten with green eyes, athletic build, legs up to
here."-Clark
Shadowtech sourcebook, by Karl Wu.
"I am a repeat offender. I repeat, I repeat, I will offend again..."
Message no. 13
From: "S.F. Eley" <gt6877c@*****.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 20:25:15 -0400
Orin Starchaser writes:

> Fine. Use the server I mentioned, then. after connecting to a server,
> type /join #shadowrun
> and you're there. Don't try to scan the channel, as I'm going to make it a
> secret channel, which makes it invisible to /who.

Why do you want to do this? I'm much more likely to join a channel if I
know somebody's there.. I think you're cutting down on its usage and
usefulness by making it secret.


Blessings,

_TNX._

--
Stephen F. Eley (-) gt6877c@*****.gatech.edu )-( Student Pagan Community
http://wc62.residence.gatech.edu|
My opinions are my opinions. | "JESUS SAVES!
Please don't blame anyone else. | He takes half damage..." (AD&D)
Message no. 14
From: Orin Starchaser <moon.29@*******.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New proposal...
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:09:44 -0500
>Orin Starchaser writes:
>
>> Fine. Use the server I mentioned, then. after connecting to a server,
>> type /join #shadowrun
>> and you're there. Don't try to scan the channel, as I'm going to make it a
>> secret channel, which makes it invisible to /who.
>
>Why do you want to do this? I'm much more likely to join a channel if I
>know somebody's there.. I think you're cutting down on its usage and
>usefulness by making it secret.
>
Well, the original intent was to keep would-be flamers and troublemakers
out, so that we don't have to worry about them busting in on our gaming,
but while I was on yesterday I found out that the channel's original
founder is still on, and keeping maintence. It's used for gaming, so if we
come on and there's a game already in-progress, then we can just switch to
another channel. The change to a secret mode was only goning to be during
the times that we would game, again to protect our interests.

-Mata ne,
Orin Starchaser
"Tell me, Doctor. Why did you go into gengineering research?" - Alyn Vage,
Reporter, Network 5 News
"To fulfill a dream mostly."-Dr. Terrance Clark, Genengineer, Genecraft
Biodesigns
"Okay, I'll bite. What dream? A dream for a better, cleaner world? Peace
on Earth? Food and care for the needy?"-Vage
"Nope. Redhead, five-ten with green eyes, athletic build, legs up to
here."-Clark
Shadowtech sourcebook, by Karl Wu.
"I am a repeat offender. I repeat, I repeat, I will offend again..."

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